Odin.Eikechi said: »
Perry I think his name is? Idk, I just know its from Phinius and Ferb or w/e that silly cartoon is lol...funny stuff
It's a really cute cartoon~
Ideal (Job) Merits (Level 75)
Ideal (Job) Merits (Level 75)
It's a really cute cartoon~
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would -5 recast on ACP body still be good? I dont plan on going FULL cor on my acp body, as i want Pet: MAB+7 for pup on my wadrecor or w/e its called
Odin.Eikechi said: »
would -5 recast on ACP body still be good? I dont plan on going FULL cor on my acp body, as i want Pet: MAB+7 for pup on my wadrecor or w/e its called
Yeah -5 recast is still great.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
would -5 recast on ACP body still be good? I dont plan on going FULL cor on my acp body, as i want Pet: MAB+7 for pup on my wadrecor or w/e its called
well you can't get that much MAB for pet on the body slot, which is why to me its so valuable.../shrug idk
Artemicion said: »
Red Mage
5/5 Convert Recast
3/5 Ice Magic Accuracy (Paralyze, Bind)
2/5 Wind Magic Accuracy (Silence, Gravity)
1/5 Dia III
5/5 Slow II
1/5 Paralyze II
1/5 Phalanx II
1/5 Bio II
1/5 Blind II
Not that it really matters for non-solo RDM, but those wind merits aren't going to be of much value. Max ice over meriting wind if you're so inclined. Drop the Bio and Blind merits for 75 cap, put a second merit in Dia, and you may want to go 2/5 Slow 5/5 Para instead of 5/5 Slow.
Samurai
5/5 Store TP Effect
5/5 Meditate Recast
1/5 Shikikoyo
1/5 Blade Bash
3/5 Ikishoten
5/5 Overwhelm
(Not sure how the recent Hasso/Seigan with Zanshin update influences merits here, but I look forward to tests to see if Zanshin Rate with Ikishoten measure up well)
Pretty sure you need at least 4 Ikishoten merits to drop two hits on a proc.
Blue Mage
5/5 Physical Potency
5/5 Magical Accuracy
1/5 Convergence
1/5 Diffusion
3/5 Enchainment
5/5 Assimilation
Maxing CA recast instead of macc may be an option, see what works better for you.
5/5 Convert Recast
3/5 Ice Magic Accuracy (Paralyze, Bind)
2/5 Wind Magic Accuracy (Silence, Gravity)
1/5 Dia III
5/5 Slow II
1/5 Paralyze II
1/5 Phalanx II
1/5 Bio II
1/5 Blind II
Not that it really matters for non-solo RDM, but those wind merits aren't going to be of much value. Max ice over meriting wind if you're so inclined. Drop the Bio and Blind merits for 75 cap, put a second merit in Dia, and you may want to go 2/5 Slow 5/5 Para instead of 5/5 Slow.
Samurai
5/5 Store TP Effect
5/5 Meditate Recast
1/5 Shikikoyo
1/5 Blade Bash
3/5 Ikishoten
5/5 Overwhelm
(Not sure how the recent Hasso/Seigan with Zanshin update influences merits here, but I look forward to tests to see if Zanshin Rate with Ikishoten measure up well)
Pretty sure you need at least 4 Ikishoten merits to drop two hits on a proc.
Blue Mage
5/5 Physical Potency
5/5 Magical Accuracy
1/5 Convergence
1/5 Diffusion
3/5 Enchainment
5/5 Assimilation
Maxing CA recast instead of macc may be an option, see what works better for you.
THF:
unless the ONLY thing you use THF for is stacking TH procs (which give pitiful gains to drop rates with anything above TH2), take the merits out of trick attack and put them into triple attack. Also, 0/5 Ambush.
RNG:
Take the merits out of Unlimited shot and put them in Camouflage. Unlimited shares recast with Double shot, and Double Shot does not benefit from merits. Camo is useful, in that it reduces enmity gain while active.
unless the ONLY thing you use THF for is stacking TH procs (which give pitiful gains to drop rates with anything above TH2), take the merits out of trick attack and put them into triple attack. Also, 0/5 Ambush.
RNG:
Take the merits out of Unlimited shot and put them in Camouflage. Unlimited shares recast with Double shot, and Double Shot does not benefit from merits. Camo is useful, in that it reduces enmity gain while active.
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There's so much WRONG all over these posts I don't even know where to start.
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Hades.Tripster said: »
There's so much WRONG all over these posts I don't even know where to start.
First wrong being that people should not be telling others how to play their game ?
And FYI Platypus is a poisonous animal. lol
Artemicion said: »
Blue Mage
5/5 Physical Potency
5/5 Magical Accuracy
5/5 Chain Affinity Recast
1/5 Convergence
1/5 Diffusion
5/5 Enchainment
5/5 Assimilation
5/5 Physical Potency
5/5 Chain Affinity Recast
5/5 Enchainment
5/5 Assimilation
With all the double/triple attacking gear these days, added on to the fact that it's relatively easy to cap haste, you're gonna get to 100 tp way before your chain affinity recast is up. Even outside abyssea it's fairly easy to build tp to 100 twice for every recast on Chain Affinity (with max recast merits). I used to have max magic accuracy merits, but changed them to CA recast a few months ago.
I also used to have a merit in diffusion which I ditched in favor of 5/5 enchainment.
More damage from your physical spells (which you'll probably use the majority of the time) is a good thing, and faster recast on chain affinity with capped enchainment will do exactly that - give more damage over time from your physical spells.
Fenrir.Mariane said: »
Hades.Tripster said: »
There's so much WRONG all over these posts I don't even know where to start.
First wrong being that people should not be telling others how to play their game ?
To be fair, I asked for it.
I want to open to advice, opinions, and criticism alike.
However, I think I alienated a lot of people's judgment with my nostalgic level 75 tendencies. I don't intend on being 75 forever, but with a good chunk of content catering to that level, it won't be anytime soon that I delve into the newer content. If anything it'll be a device to aid my small group to do things that would typically be impossible and would require an alliance at 75; which will creep up on me in terms of content sooner than I probably expect.
I don't expect you to understand or respect my decision on that, but at the very least acknowledge it. To give a better explanation, I'll quote myself from the "gimp" thread relating to the whole 75 thing.
Artemicion said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
gimmmpppp~ :3
I probably look like this guy to most of you.
But one thing you'll overlook is how damned happy he is.
Anyways, to Nightfyre: I was under the impression that Slow II was downright amazing, especially in the presence of a bard to stack Elegy with as well. Though I can certainly see Paralyze having equal potency, I simply haven't seen it in action very often.
I know wind acc merits seem impractical, but I did so mostly for the sake of gravity. Though I'm assuming it's not necessary since resistance buildups on NMs is more or less static regardless of accuracy bonuses.
Hades.Tripster said: »
There's so much WRONG all over these posts I don't even know where to start.
That's a wonderful observation of yours.
Care to elaborate and explain what is wrong exactly?
Ramuh.Austar said: »
For BST, feral howl sucks, lasts like 5 seconds and rarely does anything, can put that point into beast healer.
The point of this merit used to be for when you are competing to claim. I'm not sure if it maintained its relevance.
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Sylph.Deathknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
For BST, feral howl sucks, lasts like 5 seconds and rarely does anything, can put that point into beast healer.
The point of this merit used to be for when you are competing to claim. I'm not sure if it maintained its relevance.
I thought of it as a panic button ability, but due to the short duration and general inapplicable use, I'm likely to take it out for capping Beast Healer.
Corsair:
QD acc is useless, be a real buffer and get Phantom roll recast, once I hit 1 11 in a party I can go hours off of never having anything but 11's, the Merits dont get scaled down when PR is halfed to 30 so its 20 secs, I just spam roll tell I 11 or bust its amazing.
QD acc is useless, be a real buffer and get Phantom roll recast, once I hit 1 11 in a party I can go hours off of never having anything but 11's, the Merits dont get scaled down when PR is halfed to 30 so its 20 secs, I just spam roll tell I 11 or bust its amazing.
Phoenix.Deboro said: »
Corsair:
QD acc is useless, be a real buffer and get Phantom roll recast, once I hit 1 11 in a party I can go hours off of never having anything but 11's, the Merits dont get scaled down when PR is halfed to 30 so its 20 secs, I just spam roll tell I 11 or bust its amazing.
QD acc is useless, be a real buffer and get Phantom roll recast, once I hit 1 11 in a party I can go hours off of never having anything but 11's, the Merits dont get scaled down when PR is halfed to 30 so its 20 secs, I just spam roll tell I 11 or bust its amazing.
You're right. Accuracy is often overloaded in gear due to a direct AGI mod anyways. Since the key objective for COR is rolling 11s, Phantom Roll Recast would certainly aid this objective more so than anything else.
Artemicion said: »
Anyways, to Nightfyre: I was under the impression that Slow II was downright amazing, especially in the presence of a bard to stack Elegy with as well. Though I can certainly see Paralyze having equal potency, I simply haven't seen it in action very often.
Slow v Para merits is an old argument that's really never been settled and I'm not going to pretend I'm any sort of RDM authority, but that's how I see it.
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I know wind acc merits seem impractical, but I did so mostly for the sake of gravity. Though I'm assuming it's not necessary since resistance buildups on NMs is more or less static regardless of accuracy bonuses.
If you're not doing Light/Dark shots on cor, you don't need macc merits. If you are you need them because DDing on COR means you can't use elemental staves so you have significantly less macc. But whatevs, do what you please.
This. The only point of it is for claims. Its also given a few procs in dyna but meh, it doesn't even proc reliably on EPs
Fenrir.Gradd said: »
Dark Seal is pretty worthless, you are better off meriting Diabolic Eye for your T2 for DRK in case you need the Accuracy.
Also have to agree with everyone that said Fold >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winning Streak, the extra shot at an 11 is just that valuable.
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Fenrir.Skadoosh said: »
This. The only point of it is for claims. Its also given a few procs in dyna but meh, it doesn't even proc reliably on EPs
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Fenrir.Gradd said: »
Dark Seal is pretty worthless, you are better off meriting Diabolic Eye for your T2 for DRK in case you need the Accuracy.
Also have to agree with everyone that said Fold >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winning Streak, the extra shot at an 11 is just that valuable.
What are you thoughts on Muted Soul now, specifically for VW, Night?
Level 75? pssh
Real hardcores stay level 50 forever.
Real hardcores stay level 50 forever.
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Fenrir.Gradd said: »
Dark Seal is pretty worthless, you are better off meriting Diabolic Eye for your T2 for DRK in case you need the Accuracy.
Also have to agree with everyone that said Fold >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winning Streak, the extra shot at an 11 is just that valuable.
What are you thoughts on Muted Soul now, specifically for VW, Night?
*bump* Hoping for Night to see this.
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
5/5 Quick Draw Accuracy(XI's now do something to your roll recast, and you're not going to be rolling a bajillion roles for one party. :|)
5/5 Quick Draw Recast
5/5 Snake Eye
5/5 Fold
0/5 Winning Streak(why the *** would you merit this?)
5/5 Quick Draw Recast
5/5 Snake Eye
5/5 Fold
0/5 Winning Streak(why the *** would you merit this?)
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
lol love that platypus Nini... And I thought cor merits for group one were all about QD..since QD is pretty boss and all
:3
Yeah... QD is boss, and I 5/5 both QD things. ;x COR is DD job, and should act like such. :x
If you view COR as a DD job, then you shouldn't sacrifice winning streak merit and go all fold 5/5. Winning streak makes roll last longer, that means you spend less time to rebuff and be able to deal more dmg. And your DD buff also lasts longer if you get a good number for more dmg, however if you get a bad number you can still overwrite it during the down time.
On the other hand everytime when you use fold, you need to reroll and no buff on you, and that hurts overall dmg while spending extra time to roll and double-up. If you're getting 5/5 fold, that means you're using fold very often, like every 5 min(you'd be wasting 5/5 fold merit if you're not using it every 5 min, may as well go 1/5 or something), and that just hurts overall dmg a lot. Recent No.11 update also makes fold pointless if you rolled a No.11
As others pointed out, QD acc doesn't really increase your dmg that much since QD rarely got resist nowadays with huge amount of AGI and macc from gears. On the other hand PR recast can increase your dmg output if you're doing roll rotation since you can get DD buffs on yourself faster. Depending on how much down time you have, you can also get a good number DD buff up faster to replace bad number and that also increase your dmg output. After recent No.11 update aiming for No.11 and started a No.11 chain with lower PR recast can also increase your dmg output with 2 No.11 DD buffs on you(and at least 1 No.11 DD buff full time while doing mage/defensive rolls for other pt member) if you're in a situation with lots of downtime. Other merits besides QD acc doesn't necessary lower your dmg output IMO, COR buff itself can also enhance COR's DD ability if you time it right.
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Actually I just thought about it, this is completely the point of view for wildfire users but not leaden salute users or when you use enhance debuff shots(ice and earth). For wildfire users you just full time vulcan's and that enhanced fire shot+WS, and less macc problem with a vulcan's. But for Leaden Salute users you may ended up using pluto for WS, and do other elemental shots for TP/dmg which doesn't gain macc bonus from pluto, then you may(not 100% sure though) need more macc than fireshot/wildfire users.
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
If you view COR as a DD job, then you shouldn't sacrifice winning streak merit and go all fold 5/5. Winning streak makes roll last longer, that means you spend less time to rebuff and be able to deal more dmg. And your DD buff also lasts longer if you get a good number for more dmg, however if you get a bad number you can still overwrite it during the down time.
You're a COR, not Pringles, it's not *all* about you, it's about your group's damage output as a whole. COR just happens to be a good DD. Don't sacrifice your damage output if you don't have to, but don't make all the DDs wish they brought someone else. :x
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On the other hand everytime when you use fold, you need to reroll and no buff on you, and that hurts overall dmg while spending extra time to roll and double-up. If you're getting 5/5 fold, that means you're using fold very often, like every 5 min(you'd be wasting 5/5 fold merit if you're not using it every 5 min, may as well go 1/5 or something), and that just hurts overall dmg a lot. Recent No.11 update also makes fold pointless if you rolled a No.11
Fold isn't pointless? You NEED fold to be able to chain 11s...? You're not always going to be lucky and get 11 right off the bat without busting...
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As others pointed out, QD acc doesn't really increase your dmg that much since QD rarely got resist nowadays with huge amount of AGI and macc from gears. On the other hand PR recast can increase your dmg output if you're doing roll rotation since you can get DD buffs on yourself faster. Depending on how much down time you have, you can also get a good number DD buff up faster to replace bad number and that also increase your dmg output. After recent No.11 update aiming for No.11 and started a No.11 chain with lower PR recast can also increase your dmg output with 2 No.11 DD buffs on you(and at least 1 No.11 DD buff full time while doing mage/defensive rolls for other pt member) if you're in a situation with lots of downtime. Other merits besides QD acc doesn't necessary lower your dmg output IMO, COR buff itself can also enhance COR's DD ability if you time it right.
He's level 75, they don't GET a lot of AGI and MACC from gear. If he were 95, I'd agree with you. He still is probably going to throw out lightshots and the like while engaging. :x
Rolling on the mages isn't efficient at 75(for most of the content), and if you care enough ask Nightfyre for his math when he gets home.
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Ramuh.Krizz said: »
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