Am I the only one slightly weirded out at the concept of gear conditional attributes? It just seems strange that something would in essence not exist or in some form enhance what mechanics or abilities that already exist.
I can understand a piece of gear giving you a spell, but not some underlying formula that applies only when worn. It's just weird.
Though it would be nice if there was a native magic critical rate outside of gear.
I remember seeing "Magic Critical Hit Rate" and "Magic Evasion" for the first time on gear and everyone was like
"Gimp"
"Gimp"
I remember a certain someone who was convinced that her cures were affected by mcrit gear even after controlled tests demonstrated otherwise. Made my head hurt so bad.
Cures are only affected by Boost.
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CRITICAL HEAL!!
Shiva.Symbiote said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
You guys have sound reasoning and I can't fault that. It's the "I'm gonna do things wrong but pretend i know it's right" people that blow my mind. I'd even accept a full aurore/perle player as long as they'll say "i'm too lazy to do anything else".
I dunno, I'm a bit of the lazy type, but with me it's more of a time constraint issue. The lazy types can usually still perform pretty well, they just don't have the super elite uber endgame gears. They tend to work a little harder to compensate(unless they're hopelessly lazy).
In my experience, the "liar" talks a big game, and then when you actually get to the event, completely blows it and blames everyone else. They're typically the type who think they're good just because they have decent gear; they don't think about the whole "actually playing the game" part.
Cerberus.Rayik said: »
I dunno, I'm a bit of the lazy type, but with me it's more of a time constraint issue. The lazy types can usually still perform pretty well, they just don't have the super elite uber endgame gears. They tend to work a little harder to compensate(unless they're hopelessly lazy).
In my experience, the "liar" talks a big game, and then when you actually get to the event, completely blows it and blames everyone else. They're typically the type who think they're good just because they have decent gear; they don't think about the whole "actually playing the game" part.
In my experience, the "liar" talks a big game, and then when you actually get to the event, completely blows it and blames everyone else. They're typically the type who think they're good just because they have decent gear; they don't think about the whole "actually playing the game" part.
Back in the day, when I was on Midgar, we had one of the "liars" in my LS. This guy would run his mouth off about how he was the best SAM of the server and was the "most requested" in the game. However, he came to events with nothing but a polearm, swearing that it did much better. After about a week of beating this dude down verbally, he had finally went and exchanged that polearm for a hagun. On the other hand, we had another member who would never gear swap because he didn't see a point to it. "I can't be bothered to buy more gear. It just takes up more space."
There will always be 1 or 2 people who are an exception to all of this debate in one way or another. I would just rather the liar because when caught in their lie or proven wrong by enough people, they will either change their ways or quit. Either way, the gimp will be gone. The lazy player will just always be there as an eyesore.
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Shiva.Symbiote said: »
There will always be 1 or 2 people who are an exception to all of this debate in one way or another. I would just rather the liar because when caught in their lie or proven wrong by enough people, they will either change their ways or quit. Either way, the gimp will be gone. The lazy player will just always be there as an eyesore.
Yeah, good points. I agree there. Lazy is a much harder bad habit to break than just being wrong.
Artemicion said: »
Am I the only one slightly weirded out at the concept of gear conditional attributes? It just seems strange that something would in essence not exist or in some form enhance what mechanics or abilities that already exist.
I can understand a piece of gear giving you a spell, but not some underlying formula that applies only when worn. It's just weird.
Though it would be nice if there was a native magic critical rate outside of gear.
I remember seeing "Magic Critical Hit Rate" and "Magic Evasion" for the first time on gear and everyone was like
I can understand a piece of gear giving you a spell, but not some underlying formula that applies only when worn. It's just weird.
Though it would be nice if there was a native magic critical rate outside of gear.
I remember seeing "Magic Critical Hit Rate" and "Magic Evasion" for the first time on gear and everyone was like
Heh that was the one I originally used, but then I saw the EgoRaptor one.
Anyways, one thing I'm super lazy and gimp about and always have been is reputation burning. I simply don't have it in me to buy a million cornettes and running them back and forth to Yoran Oran.
Anyways, one thing I'm super lazy and gimp about and always have been is reputation burning. I simply don't have it in me to buy a million cornettes and running them back and forth to Yoran Oran.
To much to read since I've been busy. >.< At least I'm willing to admit when I'm gimp. My WHM is intentionally gimp cause I don't want to put time into a job I don't particularly like or use much outside of ls events where I'm forced onto the job or for very small parties (like seal farming). At least now that my LS is actively doing Voidwatch, I can finally go about it on SMN freely so I've been playing catch up (still missing a few pieces)
But still at the end of the day, I don't feel like I'm a hindrance, just lacking advantages. Will it come to a point to where anyone not wielding an emp weapon will be considered gimp?
But still at the end of the day, I don't feel like I'm a hindrance, just lacking advantages. Will it come to a point to where anyone not wielding an emp weapon will be considered gimp?
Bismarck.Soranika said: »
To much to read since I've been busy. >.< At least I'm willing to admit when I'm gimp. My WHM is intentionally gimp cause I don't want to put time into a job I don't particularly like or use much outside of ls events where I'm forced onto the job or for very small parties (like seal farming). At least now that my LS is actively doing Voidwatch, I can finally go about it on SMN freely so I've been playing catch up (still missing a few pieces)
Bolded sounds like enough of a reason to gear it properly tbh. If my LS made me come a job that I didn't have geared properly, I'd make sure to fix that within a week. :x But whatever, I'm not going to guilt you into making a Surya's apparently even though it's great for SMN too.
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But still at the end of the day, I don't feel like I'm a hindrance, just lacking advantages. Will it come to a point to where anyone not wielding an emp weapon will be considered gimp?
If they need two WHMs instead of just one, or if people are dying, then it's a hindrance. I can't be the judge of that, I can just call you gimp for not having essentials.
I would say that if you don't have an relic/emp/WoE(if it's an upgrade) weapon for your #1 job and it happens to be a DD, you're gimp, and I wouldn't ever let you come that job to anything that mattered if I were your shell leader. Would I specifically call you gimp? Probably not, I know you need friends to get that(or take 6 months shouting in Jeuno lulz), and some people don't have friends. I still wouldn't touch your DD job with a 10ft pole though.
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Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm not going to guilt you into making a Surya's
Speaking of lazy gimps:
This was my "lazy" solution to whm without staff. In my defense I leveled it 49-90 after finishing this set and haven't touched it since.
edit: I was whm for the shantotto final fight, and doing the leg work for the warp II quest but srsly thats how little im ever on my "just leveling for the sake of leveling" jobs.
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I would say that if you don't have an relic/emp/WoE(if it's an upgrade) weapon for your #1 job and it happens to be a DD, you're gimp, and I wouldn't ever let you come that job to anything that mattered if I were your shell leader.
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm not going to guilt you into making a Surya's
Speaking of lazy gimps:
This was my "lazy" solution to whm without staff. In my defense I leveled it 49-90 after finishing this set and haven't touched it since.
edit: I was whm for the shantotto final fight, and doing the leg work for the warp II quest but srsly thats how little im ever on my "just leveling for the sake of leveling" jobs.
what % on the body?
Siren.Kalilla said: »
what % on the body?
12 on body. I had a 14%/fresh that I tossed on accident after getting 12/fresh/4conserve mp. i thought the old one was in MH while i was rolling new ones.
The shield is 4% cp atm.
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm not going to guilt you into making a Surya's
Speaking of lazy gimps:
This was my "lazy" solution to whm without staff. In my defense I leveled it 49-90 after finishing this set and haven't touched it since.
edit: I was whm for the shantotto final fight, and doing the leg work for the warp II quest but srsly thats how little im ever on my "just leveling for the sake of leveling" jobs.
Work a little bit on it everyday, and before you know it you'll be done.
Really isn't difficult to make an elemental staff trial.
If you did that everyday for 20-30 minutes it wouldn't take long. If your standing around doing nothing for 30 minutes you could be working on your staff.
I'm a full supporter for tefnut but don't blame your laziness on getting that over staff, because it isn't hard to make one >.>
Really isn't difficult to make an elemental staff trial.
If you did that everyday for 20-30 minutes it wouldn't take long. If your standing around doing nothing for 30 minutes you could be working on your staff.
I'm a full supporter for tefnut but don't blame your laziness on getting that over staff, because it isn't hard to make one >.>
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I would say that if you don't have an relic/emp/WoE(if it's an upgrade) weapon for your #1 job and it happens to be a DD, you're gimp, and I wouldn't ever let you come that job to anything that mattered if I were your shell leader. Would I specifically call you gimp? Probably not, I know you need friends to get that(or take 6 months shouting in Jeuno lulz), and some people don't have friends. I still wouldn't touch your DD job with a 10ft pole though.
Omg so mean D:
DDs can still be good even without Emps/Relics/Mythic. Mine is! Or at least that's what mommy says when she kisses me good night ;_;
Odin.Sheelay said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I would say that if you don't have an relic/emp/WoE(if it's an upgrade) weapon for your #1 job and it happens to be a DD, you're gimp, and I wouldn't ever let you come that job to anything that mattered if I were your shell leader. Would I specifically call you gimp? Probably not, I know you need friends to get that(or take 6 months shouting in Jeuno lulz), and some people don't have friends. I still wouldn't touch your DD job with a 10ft pole though.
Omg so mean D:
DDs can still be good even without Emps/Relics/Mythic. Mine is! Or at least that's what mommy says when she kisses me good night ;_;
Your Ukons basically done shush you!
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Work a little bit on it everyday, and before you know it you'll be done.
Really isn't difficult to make an elemental staff trial.
If you did that everyday for 20-30 minutes it wouldn't take long. If your standing around doing nothing for 30 minutes you could be working on your staff.
I'm a full supporter for tefnut but don't blame your laziness on getting that over staff, because it isn't hard to make one >.>
Really isn't difficult to make an elemental staff trial.
If you did that everyday for 20-30 minutes it wouldn't take long. If your standing around doing nothing for 30 minutes you could be working on your staff.
I'm a full supporter for tefnut but don't blame your laziness on getting that over staff, because it isn't hard to make one >.>
iirc Sora also argued that having a Tamas was a good choice over Rajas.
inb42006argument
inb42006argument
Never argued that it was better than Rajas. I argued that it wasn't as absolutely useless as people claim. Why are you trying to derail the thread by egging on a pointless argument anyway?
Maybe. I still wear my tamas ring to date to troll people I rubbed the wrong way in that argument and feel the need to stalk me. I do need to change to rajas cause I found a voidwatch ring I can use as a replacement.
Anyway~
Anyway~
Bismarck.Soranika said: »
Maybe. I still wear my tamas ring to date to troll people I rubbed the wrong way in that argument and feel the need to stalk me. I do need to change to rajas cause I found a voidwatch ring I can use as a replacement.
Anyway~
Anyway~
Zomg still using tamas??? Gimp!!! ;P
I am and always be a gimp in FFXI but I dont really care as long as I'm enjoying it
There weren't replacement rings prior to Voidwatch? lol
Tamas has never been a good ring unless you only have mage jobs.
Tamas has never been a good ring unless you only have mage jobs.
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