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Let's Talk Fishing!
Lakshmi.Watusa
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 702
By Lakshmi.Watusa 2012-12-18 16:17:24
anyone know a good way to up the rate i catch bugbear/moblin masks people using a lot of dirty tricks to get minnows/glass fiber
I've tried it before and it just didn't seem worth the time, especially with how often a desynth breaks. Sardine Paste is definitely the way to go if you can't find minnows or cheap glass fiber.
By Aeyela 2012-12-21 06:34:43
Two Ebisu related questions:
1] How often will my Lu Shangs break fishing up Liks or Gugruthingys? And I can repair a Lu Shangs as 70 Woodworking with a very low rate of success, correct?
2] I am currently 99 Smithing and I am an expert and have uncapped it from 100. If I level Woodworking to, say, 80 to be able to repair Lu Shangs, will this impact my Smithing in anyway? As far as I understand it will not.
By Avitori 2012-12-21 07:15:19
1. depends on fishing skill, liks are easier to catch and you can fix your rod without being afraid of losing your it. gugs on the other hand...unless you are botting you will need that stamina + ring, and will have to pay attention to when the boat docks cause you'll lose your rod and then you'll be like this
2. should be fine
By Bokmog 2012-12-21 07:19:43
yo sup i love fishing.
By Avitori 2012-12-21 07:37:42
me 2 dawg
By Aeyela 2012-12-22 07:11:02
Matsya: What's the approximate rate at which one will obtain a Shaper's Shawl? I am seriously considering spamming them to save money in the long run depending on the rough rate.
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2012-12-22 08:25:47
Same, no problems for me so far. Noticing very strange results in Oldtown (in my experience). Just gone 15 casts with 'You didn't catch anything', then I hook and catch a Pisces, then gone 7 without a bite.
(Putting it down to bad luck, as guy nearby seems to be catching ok).
Right after an update it takes a while for fishing bites to pick up, at least in some areas. Been that way as long as I remember. In a couple hours everything will be normal.
O.o would be very strange for the server to be programmed like that.
people tend to act like the game is a real world... its not its all math and bit's.
i bet you the fishing catch algorithm is no more more complicated that each fish according to bait has a certain percentage to get caught and then random roll.
why would they use more cpu usage for a more complicated algo and then try to save cpu resources on haste calculations.
Phoenix.Suji
サーバ: Phoenix
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Posts: 962
By Phoenix.Suji 2012-12-22 11:05:32
Matsya: What's the approximate rate at which one will obtain a Shaper's Shawl? I am seriously considering spamming them to save money in the long run depending on the rough rate. It's in the 1~2% range. Depending on the cost of your synths and which craft you have, it's possible for it to be a gil loss, especially if you go 1/400 like Keseasura. I'm still going to try to get it for the hell of it though.
The stats/compilations for the Shawl rate are buried in the bg fishing thread.
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By Systemx 2012-12-22 11:14:42
Oh..
I like how he lies and says hes 1/1.......... You clearly see him go 1/2......... Im betting that was just a diffrent day and hes like 1/400 trying to act cool...... Cause we all know how much of a liar he is now.....
By Aeyela 2012-12-22 19:11:48
I like how he lies and says hes 1/1.......... You clearly see him go 1/2......... Im betting that was just a diffrent day and hes like 1/400 trying to act cool...... Cause we all know how much of a liar he is now.....
The dialogue with the NPC is the dialogue you get if you haven't gutted a fish before; so this is at least his first trade in. Makes him 1/2 at the most, for which I still hate him!
It's in the 1~2% range. Depending on the cost of your synths and which craft you have, it's possible for it to be a gil loss, especially if you go 1/400 like Keseasura. I'm still going to try to get it for the hell of it though.
The stats/compilations for the Shawl rate are buried in the bg fishing thread.
Smithing... My goal is 104 until they make it a little more feasible to go higher. I guess I'll leave it, unless I get a lucky rate it won't save me much gil.
サーバ: Valefor
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By Valefor.Starscreamx 2012-12-22 19:20:28
I like how he lies and says hes 1/1.......... You clearly see him go 1/2......... Im betting that was just a diffrent day and hes like 1/400 trying to act cool...... Cause we all know how much of a liar he is now.....
The dialogue with the NPC is the dialogue you get if you haven't gutted a fish before; so this is at least his first trade in. Makes him 1/2 at the most, for which I still hate him!
Smithing... My goal is 104 until they make it a little more feasible to go higher. I guess I'll leave it, unless I get a lucky rate it won't save me much gil.
You arent looking clearly you can see he traded 1 fish and obtained 800 gil than traded another got saber shoot and another 800 gil.
By behemuthxero 2012-12-23 23:50:39
Valefor.Starscreamx said: »I like how he lies and says hes 1/1.......... You clearly see him go 1/2......... Im betting that was just a diffrent day and hes like 1/400 trying to act cool...... Cause we all know how much of a liar he is now.....
The dialogue with the NPC is the dialogue you get if you haven't gutted a fish before; so this is at least his first trade in. Makes him 1/2 at the most, for which I still hate him!
Smithing... My goal is 104 until they make it a little more feasible to go higher. I guess I'll leave it, unless I get a lucky rate it won't save me much gil.
You arent looking clearly you can see he traded 1 fish and obtained 800 gil than traded another got saber shoot and another 800 gil.
Can also see him take a Lik out of the Dbox...880 and nothing for lik first then 880 and shoot from Gug next...Also...who cares...
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Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan
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By Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan 2012-12-25 20:05:35
I'VE FOUND THE SECRET!
Finally got shawl the other day, after 1/36! Made a joke to my friend and said that I'd get shawl if I threatened Zaldon! (Apparently you can't /jobemote npcs <.<)
Phoenix.Suji
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-12-25 20:31:11
1/36 isn't a case where I'd say "finally" :p
grats though!
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By Phoenix.Purpleeyes 2012-12-25 20:50:11
Believe me everyone would have their shawl if the secret was threatening Zaldon.
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By Solrain 2012-12-29 21:10:21
So I was fishing Giant Chirai about a month ago for the fishing contest (smallest fish, trying to get a friend Pelican Ring), using Noddy/Puffin and was chatting with another friend that was fishing next to me and he told me that I wasn't catching small size/weight fish was because of the Puffin Ring. Now I've always thought that Puffin just increases the bite rate of !!! as opposed to ! fish but he was saying that it has an effect of the size of the fish that you actually reel in.
I've never thought about it that way before, but the wording makes me think that the ring works in the way that I thought it did, but I could always be wrong. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
Leviathan.Hohenheim
サーバ: Leviathan
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-12-29 21:41:36
So I was fishing Giant Chirai about a month ago for the fishing contest (smallest fish, trying to get a friend Pelican Ring), using Noddy/Puffin and was chatting with another friend that was fishing next to me and he told me that I wasn't catching small size/weight fish was because of the Puffin Ring. Now I've always thought that Puffin just increases the bite rate of !!! as opposed to ! fish but he was saying that it has an effect of the size of the fish that you actually reel in.
I've never thought about it that way before, but the wording makes me think that the ring works in the way that I thought it did, but I could always be wrong. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
large fish are fish that dont stack. i can all but guarantee that this is ***
サーバ: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Purpleeyes 2012-12-29 21:46:17
It's true. Take your puffin ring off and you'll instantly notice you are catching lighter fish.
Asura.Kohanu
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 110
By Asura.Kohanu 2012-12-29 22:01:36
Some eyeball data from my time skilling in Nash says it doesn't help you catch the unstacking fish. I wear one anyway, since it wasn't nearly enough or accurately enough tracked to give a significant conclusion, but I'm inclined to believe it doesn't do what people wear it for.
サーバ: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Trinironnie 2012-12-30 00:52:38
Does having stockfish, fisherman stall, and stuffed big one together help my fishing in anyway? I was reading about mog enhancement and i saw in certain post it said i only need one of these in my MH. Can someone help me out Q_Q?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-30 01:05:28
only need stall
Sylph.Traxus
サーバ: Sylph
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Posts: 383
By Sylph.Traxus 2012-12-30 02:59:35
Some eyeball data from my time skilling in Nash says it doesn't help you catch the unstacking fish. I wear one anyway, since it wasn't nearly enough or accurately enough tracked to give a significant conclusion, but I'm inclined to believe it doesn't do what people wear it for.
I wouldn't doubt it.
Noddy ring doesn't seem to do anything besides turn monster bites into no bites, which doesn't really do anything if you're using a lure. I assume apron/smock works the same way.
Lakshmi.Watusa
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 702
By Lakshmi.Watusa 2012-12-30 09:39:45
So I was fishing Giant Chirai about a month ago for the fishing contest (smallest fish, trying to get a friend Pelican Ring), using Noddy/Puffin and was chatting with another friend that was fishing next to me and he told me that I wasn't catching small size/weight fish was because of the Puffin Ring. Now I've always thought that Puffin just increases the bite rate of !!! as opposed to ! fish but he was saying that it has an effect of the size of the fish that you actually reel in.
I've never thought about it that way before, but the wording makes me think that the ring works in the way that I thought it did, but I could always be wrong. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
I've always felt like this might have been the case but never bothered to test it out. Who knows, this might even cause more line snapping on Haks because it's targeting much bigger fish?
By Aeyela 2012-12-30 10:07:14
My Black Sole bite rate seems poor (1/20) when I think they're the Western versions of Dil. What is the best part of Qufim (or another zone, perhaps?) to bite them? I'm using a Lu Shang's and Sinking Minnow.
Carbuncle.Anesthesia
サーバ: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 845
By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2012-12-30 10:28:28
My Black Sole bite rate seems poor (1/20) when I think they're the Western versions of Dil. What is the best part of Qufim (or another zone, perhaps?) to bite them? I'm using a Lu Shang's and Sinking Minnow.
Black Sole biterate is pretty atrocious no matter where you are.
Valefor.Sapphire
サーバ: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1828
By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-01-01 23:25:20
6am
can't sleep
why is it harder to catch Bastore sweepers than Cone Calamary/Silver sharks with 22 fishing?
Halycon+Sliced Bluetail at Battalia[S]
The rod stays straight up like 90% of the time with sweepers so you run out of time to reel it in. But stuff way over my skill level throws the rod far to the left/right so i can deplete the stamina and catch them...
Totally wtf'ing at this, well i caught 1 sweeper finally for the cooking knife quest at least...
Lakshmi.Tanama
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 225
By Lakshmi.Tanama 2013-01-01 23:43:57
Sea Zombies are the worst GP fish ever!
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Sylph.Traxus
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 383
By Sylph.Traxus 2013-01-02 10:12:46
Phanauet Newts on the other hand are simply the best.
By Aeyela 2013-01-02 10:34:18
Phanauet Newts on the other hand are simply the best.
I got 88 last night and decided to wait until guild points reset to see what to hand in. Boy am I glad I did that. Off to catch a few Eels before handing a Squid in!
There are fishing topics that come up now and then but mainly are asking a question for a single answer. I know there are many fishers that visit these forums so this is an attempt to get people involved and have a little fun discussing one and only one thing, fishing!
I know Blue Gartr has a Fishing topic already, but I would like to see this community get involved a little bit and talk, since not everyone visits BG. I would love to have a topic just for fishers including veteran fishers, casual fishers, and even players just starting out and want to ask a few questions without being embarrassed about starting a whole topic for a simple answer they could not find.
I only ask that you keep any bot talk to a minimum, preferably none. [Moderator edit: No bot talk] I want this to be a place where we can discuss anything from GP items of the day to what lure/bait to use or what area is best. A quick mention of how you're doing on the lu shang/ebisu quest, how you're doing getting your fishing items from Grounds of Valor, that item you're saving your GP up for, or how much you wish you could hurt Zaldon for not finding anything in your fish for the 10,000th time. Your lucky moment streaks and the moments when you have nothing come your way and question why you started fishing in the first place. Anything that comes to mind, think of it as the random thoughts thread for fishing.
I will list a few resources that I find to be useful when it comes to fishing: BG Fishing Topic
Great Blue (Amazing Site <3, is out dated since 2008 but an amazing resource regardless)
Final Fishing (Another great resource with one of the most in-depth guides made. Out of date though.)
Fish Size Chart [ GE][ Wikia]
Chenon Diary (The site seems to be down for good though, it was a site made for Fish Ranking)
I shall add more if people provide good resources.
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