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 Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-09-03 11:02:34  
That's like 250/tick lol
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By Sylph.Gobbo 2011-09-03 12:22:33  
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Also the embrava at 440 skill provided a still 5tp/tic regain and a 62hp/tic regen
ohgoddddddddd

Needs more Enhancing Skill on Kirin's Pole!
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 13:20:35  
Sylph.Gobbo said: »
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Also the embrava at 440 skill provided a still 5tp/tic regain and a 62hp/tic regen
ohgoddddddddd

Needs more Enhancing Skill on Kirin's Pole!
I might have gaybu seals on the test server to turn into scraps, brb checkinggggggg
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 13:25:06  
Everything but ._.
I have a gem of the north though, just need a winter's stone D:
but seems like a lot of trouble to find someone to help me kill a quick olla and a quick genbu on the test server with lolnowindower for just some extra enhancing magic skill :|
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-03 13:29:51  
My Windower is working peachy on the test server :)
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 13:41:43  
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
My Windower is working peachy on the test server :)
Mine doesn't, when I do the 2 account work around, it's still weird and blackness around the screen etc and no me gusta
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-03 13:47:12  
I had that too, you have to go to regedit, find the test server registry (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PlayOnlineEU\SquareEnix\FinalFantasyXITestClient)

And change 0001 and 0002 to be your resolution, and change 0003 and 0004 to be your background resolution.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 13:56:24  
okay, lemme try it rq
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kimora 2011-09-03 13:58:14  
Enhancing Magic 454 now gives me:
Regen 65 Regain 5 Haste ~31% (Reraise⇒41s Klimaform⇒2:04 as /whm, no armor to reduce recast or grimoire)
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 14:04:28  
yum
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-03 14:05:43  
it worked fine for me :)
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By Mischief 2011-09-03 14:09:38  
You can MB Kaustra. And it seems to have a HUGE effect on the DoT. Credit goes to Zellc for the strategy (or whoever told him lol).

MB'd Kaustra on Mangy-tailed Marvin, took him from ~95% to dead. No pictures though. Zellc did the same thing. Used Atma of Kirin+Cosmos+Minikin, buffed up with voidstorm, klimaform, ascetic's tonic (clicked off Intension before Klimaform), and ebullience'd Kaustra.

MB'd Kaustra on Briareus:

MB'd Kaustra on Lusca:

Used brews to stay alive after Kaustra fired.

Going to try to fire it off on a Voidwatch NM and stay alive long enough for the DoT to do full damage, will be back with the results of that shortly. Note that my dark magic skill was 425 during these tests.

EDIT: MB'd Kaustra on Ushumgal:
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 14:21:33  
Make sure that klaustra didn't wear because you died though, I learned that as soon as you deagro something Kaustra wears off on those mangy tailed marvins last night @_@
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By Mischief 2011-09-03 14:22:53  
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Make sure that klaustra didn't wear because you died though, I learned that as soon as you deagro something Kaustra wears off on those mangy tailed marvins last night @_@

It didn't, it wore off literally one second before he caught up to me and killed me.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 14:25:45  
Well that's good :o
we should test together sometime, I wouldn't mind wasting a brew on a Kaustra to see what it'd do lol
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-09-03 15:09:55  
im updating right now, so i'll join the merry bunch of nuking sch
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By Mischief 2011-09-03 15:10:48  
I should be able to get on in about 20 minutes or so, just finishing something up real quick.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-09-03 15:14:04  
Kaustra sounds like it would have been amazingly badass when people pinned stuff.
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By Bahamut.Arioch 2011-09-04 00:12:14  
i havent gotten around to it yet, has anyone tested out the new embrava with different max MP amounts?
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-04 00:48:57  
Bahamut.Arioch said: »
i havent gotten around to it yet, has anyone tested out the new embrava with different max MP amounts?
Max MP doesn't affect duration/effects of either spell, only mp cost
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By Bahamut.Arioch 2011-09-04 01:20:11  
thats untrue, on embrava at least, i tested it myself as i've posted twice already

Bahamut.Arioch said: »
Did some more testing with Embrava and these are the TP gains I came up with:

5 - 1230 MP 413 Skill
4 - 1228 MP 381 Skill
4/5 - 2150 MP 381/398 Skill
5/6 - 2150/9999 MP 413 Skill

This definitely shows that skill and MP play a factor. MP seems to cause it to have 2 different tick amounts while enhancing skill is a constant tick.

Edit: Went back when I saw I didn't use 381 skill with 2150 MP, came back with the same results 4/5.

this was before they fixed it however, which is why i asked my question i haven't gotten to testing it myself yet
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-04 01:25:56  
Bahamut.Arioch said: »
thats untrue, on embrava at least, i tested it myself as i've posted twice already

Bahamut.Arioch said: »
Did some more testing with Embrava and these are the TP gains I came up with:

5 - 1230 MP 413 Skill
4 - 1228 MP 381 Skill
4/5 - 2150 MP 381/398 Skill
5/6 - 2150/9999 MP 413 Skill

This definitely shows that skill and MP play a factor. MP seems to cause it to have 2 different tick amounts while enhancing skill is a constant tick.

Edit: Went back when I saw I didn't use 381 skill with 2150 MP, came back with the same results 4/5.

this was before they fixed it however, which is why i asked my question i haven't gotten to testing it myself yet
I don't understand, the only thing that you're showing with this data, is that skill changes the potency of the regain Do the tests with static amount of skill and varying amounts of mp if you really want to test the effects of mp on embrava, adding varying skill just skews results.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-09-04 01:29:31  
I got a little moist seeing that Manifestation Kaustra on the previous page. All those dead mandies.
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By Bahamut.Arioch 2011-09-04 02:18:22  
It is static skill, can you not read?

In case what I am displaying is hard to get:

4 TP every tic - 1228 MP, 381 Skill
4 TP on one tic, 5 the next, then 4, etc. - 2150 MP, 381 Skill

5 TP every tic - 1230 MP, 413 Skill
5 TP on one tic, 6 the next, then 5, etc. - 2150/9999 MP, 413 Skill

That is with more MP, but same skill as the the other tests i did with the same tic every time, with lower MP.

I'm not trying to get into an argument. This is a solid test I did before they did anything to Embrava. It just doesn't seem like you're understanding what I'm saying.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-09-04 02:30:43  
well this should clear some things up arioch, brewed embrava gave me 360 hp regen and 55 tic regain, without 60 hp regen and 5 tic regain.

if 9k mp difference isnt doing anything to embrava, i dont know how 900 mp is making a difference to your results.

both had 417 enhancing magic skill


in other words enbrava is based only on enhancing magic skill
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-04 02:50:35  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
well this should clear some things up arioch, brewed embrava gave me 360 hp regen and 55 tic regain, without 60 hp regen and 5 tic regain.

if 9k mp difference isnt doing anything to embrava, i dont know how 900 mp is making a difference to your results.

both had 417 enhancing magic skill


in other words enbrava is based only on enhancing magic skill
Thanks for clearing that up

Bahamut.Arioch said: »
4/5 - 2150 MP 381/398 Skill
4 - 1228 MP 381 Skill
The extra /398 is what threw me off in this one section, and your lack of testing the regen potency is what originally had me doubting your results
As for the other
Bahamut.Arioch said: »
5/6 - 2150/9999 MP 413 Skill
5 - 1230 MP 413 Skill
this data, with no control, meant nothing,as there's a multitude of other effects other than increased MP while under the effects of a brew, such as MND, INT, other modifiers etc., and it being the sole sample of data you had which didn't even include any difference in regen amount, easily led me to believe your conclusion to be either incorrect or off by a significant margin.
Which Sira's data confirms.
At least it gives us 1 less thing to worry about when it comes to maximizing our Embravas.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-09-04 02:53:56  
if that were the case that would be pretty broken, it turns 1 brew into 1 brew + 18 minibrews that last over 10 minutes. i believe SE saw that in advance which is why they took all the extra modifiers out of the spell.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-09-04 14:19:36  
Are you able to get unlimited cruor on the test server? :o
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By Leso 2011-09-04 14:23:58  
Bahamut.Aeronis said: »
Are you able to get unlimited cruor on the test server? :o

yes from the voidwatch GM in Norg
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