Striking Flourish's Big Sister Ternary Flourish

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Striking flourish's Big Sister Ternary Flourish
 Cerberus.Vaness
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-20 13:01:25  
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Why do they keep attempting to add more ways for dancers to do damage?

Can we focus on what the job is all about, and not pretend it's a DD please?

I should link that thread Niniann linked where you were going on about how at 75 DNC should DD and not heal at all. lol.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-20 13:01:29  
Cerberus.Mystina said: »
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Why do they keep attempting to add more ways for dancers to do damage?

Can we focus on what the job is all about, and not pretend it's a DD please?

I should link that thread Niniann linked where you were going on about how at 75 DNC should DD and not heal at all. lol.

I'd like to know what exactly you THINK DNC is all about Kiaru? cause i highly doubt someone wants to solo as dnc and kill as slow as possible. which is where the dd aspect of it comes from.

Job timers? already been through that ***1 million times. so that's out. what else is there?

There really isn't a need to solo. You can get things done a lot faster with just two more people, hell even just one more a BLM + DNC if the dnc can heal itself. I think DNC needs more support options imo, since that is truest to the job.
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By Lillica 2011-08-20 13:02:17  
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DNC will be getting tri-wield at level 99. INB4 Zorro dancers.

So what? SAM is getting Hex-Wield
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-08-20 13:02:42  
Yes they are making it so sam can dual wield katana and great katana.
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2011-08-20 13:04:07  
Lillica said: »

So what? SAM is getting Hex-Wield

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By Pooman 2011-08-20 13:11:21  
Cerberus.Mystina said: »
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Why do they keep attempting to add more ways for dancers to do damage?

Can we focus on what the job is all about, and not pretend it's a DD please?

I should link that thread Niniann linked where you were going on about how at 75 DNC should DD and not heal at all. lol.

I'd like to know what exactly you THINK DNC is all about Kiaru? cause i highly doubt someone wants to solo as dnc and kill as slow as possible. which is where the dd aspect of it comes from.

Job timers? already been through that ***1 million times. so that's out. what else is there?

Well we can hope! Look how long they took to finally give us Dynamis maps! -_-

But yeah, I don't really mind the DD stuff because DNC kills stuff way faster than before. I remember when the 80 update came out and some people were bragging that they could solo Ovni in a little over an hour ._.
As for whatshername, she's too random to take serious. Don't know what the hell's going on most of the time.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Urat 2011-09-21 02:28:34  
As far as I recall, didn't the Devs mention that Ternary would see a gear/something buff akin to Striking?

Probably a piece of gear that makes it crit or do x2 damage or some crap. Or maybe a merittable job trait.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-09-21 03:44:43  
They said "what if we released gear" meaning they don't necessarily have plans for it yet.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-09-21 03:50:42  
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-21 04:34:18  
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
They said "what if we released gear" meaning they don't necessarily have plans for it yet.
they suggested "maybe" adding a bonus onto gear....in the good old Camate unclear answers sort of way....i personally think when/if they make AF3+3...Ternary Flourish will get a bonus on one of those pieces
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-09-21 05:01:45  
Inuyasha said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
They said "what if we released gear" meaning they don't necessarily have plans for it yet.
they suggested "maybe" adding a bonus onto gear....in the good old Camate unclear answers sort of way....i personally think when/if they make AF3+3...Ternary Flourish will get a bonus on one of those pieces

Camate said:
However, what if we were to implement a weapon skill that matched this nicely as well as equipment that enhances the stats of Ternary Flourish, just like the other abilities?

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By mercure 2011-09-21 06:59:32  
What if they were to release a shitty JA and have no plans to enhance it afterwards ? ^^

So much fun to have a useless JA implemented, then having to wait for months to have (maybe) some way of using it.

Can't wait for Quadratic Flourish for 99 cap !
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-09-21 08:43:43  
whatever, i still look sexier than anyone else in every party.
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By Leviathan.Emmm 2011-09-30 19:38:20  
I'm gonna try to stick it into my weaponskill set.
Wild Flourish
No Foot Rise for 5
Sekanoki
Dancing Edge
Ternary Flourish
Evisceration

triple attack is a sexy concept .... will let you know what numbers I get with this.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-30 19:39:15  
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
whatever, i still look sexier than anyone else in every party.
That's debatable.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-01 04:58:24  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
whatever, i still look sexier than anyone else in every party.
That's debatable.

Wrong.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2011-10-08 19:14:37  
Anyone know if that Chiner's Belt with the enhances triple attack works along with Ternary Flourish?
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-10-08 19:59:58  
Leviathan.Emmm said: »
I'm gonna try to stick it into my weaponskill set.
Wild Flourish
No Foot Rise for 5
Sekanoki
Dancing Edge
Ternary Flourish
Evisceration

I tried this, except no intial Wild Flourish, and PK instead of DE. No formal testing at all (does it really need any?). The results were pretty underwhelming, as expected.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-10-08 20:06:56  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
whatever, i still look sexier than anyone else in every party.
That's debatable.

At least he embraces his inner man. It makes him that much more spectacular.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-10-09 01:41:10  
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Anyone know if that Chiner's Belt with the enhances triple attack works along with Ternary Flourish?

good idea :O

maybe ill test it tomorrow if i get the time
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-09 01:49:04  
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
whatever, i still look sexier than anyone else in every party.
That's debatable.

Wrong.
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
whatever, i still look sexier than anyone else in every party.
That's debatable.

At least he embraces his inner man. It makes him that much more spectacular.

:( I hate you guys.
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By Bahamut.Blze 2011-10-09 03:15:50  
i have no ideal what u guys are talking about i personally was messing with ternary flourish seeing what it was all about. by it self is pretty low on the totem pole of job abilities. so i said well lets add it into a ws.
Testing on Aura Statues in Sky
the first attempted was
wild Flourish (WF)
ternary flourish (TF)
dancing Edge
there was a definite damage spike
So i added build flourish into this
and then i started doing 1.5k-2k ws+skillchains i was like okay

start 100% tp 5 (Fms)
build Flourish -3
presto+step+3
10 second delay
wild flourish-2
ternary flourish-3
dancing edge

yes it look like a lot of work and i probably gonna get flamed for this, but the proof is in the pudding so to speak. There better ways to use steps and tp but if u want it to work this is a good way to use ternary. now u can split into two macros if u want putting BF,Presto,step in one and WF, TF, and WS in another probably the best way for this to work in side a party.

one macro version
/ja "Build Flourish" <me> <wait 2>
/ja "Presto" <me> <wait 1>
/ja "Box step" <t> <wait 8>
/ja "Wild Flourish" <t> <wait 2>
/ja "Ternary Flourish" <me> <wait 3>
/ws "Dancing Edge" <t>

two macro version
first one
/ja "Build Flourish" <me> <wait 2>
/ja "Presto" <me> <wait 1>
/ja "Box step" <t> <wait 8>
/echo ready

second one. (this can be used stand alone)
/ja "Wild Flourish" <t> <wait 2>
/ja "Ternary Flourish" <me> <wait 3>
/ws "Dancing Edge" <t>
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-10-09 07:51:01  
No one is arguing that it doesn't force a triple attack. People are arguing that it isn't worth 60-80% of another weaponskill. In your case, they would argue that combining it and wild flourish isn't better than skillchaining with two weaponskills. They'd be right.
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