Abyssea Exp = Bad Player?
Abyssea exp = bad player?
I agree. What I think some peeps don't understand is after you leech a job there is way more that needs to be done before you can consider it a career job for events/solo.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
The only job I'm dubious to leech is RNG because it's going to be a *** to skill up
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Ramuh.Laffter said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
The only job I'm dubious to leech is RNG because it's going to be a *** to skill up
Yar, but I'm sure I can auto RNG attack with spellcast lol.
I'll just need to get arrows through the *** and leave it on all night or something -_-
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Phoenix.Xantavia said:
Eluveitie said:
I never leech jobs I'm seriously going to 90 with. Solo to 75 then abyssea. Now on the flip side I wanted maats cap a long time just as a personal challenge. Stuff like BRD I don't give a rats *** about ill SMN burn to 30 and leech to 66 np simply cuz it dosent matter if I know my job or not. My BLU I soloed to 76 cuz I didn't wanna be another full aurore blu who only has pollen coccoon and foot kick.
This is a mindset I totally agree with. If I want to take a job to 90, its because its a job I enjoy playing. I find it more enjoyable to slowly get stronger, rather than do no real work for hours just to have it at max level.
Only thing that does at times is make you wait longer to use your good gear for the job.
1-30 is your experience period. 31-80 is your leach period. 81-90 is your next experience period. If you cant learn how to play a job in 40 lvls then play something else. Killing something over and over again mid lvls doesnt teach you how to play a job imo. Listening to advise, doing tests, and experimenting gear is how you learn how to play your job. The only semi difficult jobs in this game to play is Blu, Pup, Sch, and correctly played Cor. The rest is pretty much the same.
Phoenix.Cengeal said:
Bad players come from bad habits and narrow mindedness. They also come from buying gil, buying accounts, hacking accounts, ninja lotting, using people to get what they want, the list goes on like that.
Not true, buying an account is near the same as Abyssea burning your job, you have the capabilities of looking up info on the job if you actually care. Buying gil goes even further into that, if you're buying gil to make a better investment, more power to you. It's your money, do what you want with it. I've met people who cycle through buying accounts and selling gil to make profit, they're the smart ones who are actually making something out of this huge chunk of time we're all wasting.
And to everyone who thinks Abyssea Burning is bad, just shut up already. It's all about how willing the player is to type in a URL, look at some info, and apply it to your job. I've Abyssea burned my BLU and WHM and I feel those are the better of the jobs that I play. I've had probably 2 month's experience on BLU and I know that I'm playing better than most BLUs because I actually care about if I'm doing something right or not. Abyssea isn't ruining the game guys, it's the willingness of the player to learn their job.
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Leviathan.Joyroth said:
Burning BLU isn't bad if your commit to back tracking and learning spells.
Only due to the skill up process. Either you bot that or you spend hours and hours going insane after each pollen cast.
Not true >_>
After I burned up to 75, I just learned some random lowlevel spells while skilling up (which is pretty fast if you spam offensive spells), and once I got frenetic rip, I joined a worm-pt and pretty much just spammed head butt, frenetic rip and bludgeon all the way to 90, which took me like 20-30 levels from cap after capping out on merits after level 90.
Leviathan.Draylo said:
dats cheating bro
I cheat because SE don't know how to make a proper game
This ***is standard.
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Ramuh.Laffter said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
The only job I'm dubious to leech is RNG because it's going to be a *** to skill up
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Not true >_>
After I burned up to 75, I just learned some random lowlevel spells while skilling up (which is pretty fast if you spam offensive spells), and once I got frenetic rip, I joined a worm-pt and pretty much just spammed head butt, frenetic rip and bludgeon all the way to 90, which took me like 20-30 levels from cap after capping out on merits after level 90.
After I burned up to 75, I just learned some random lowlevel spells while skilling up (which is pretty fast if you spam offensive spells), and once I got frenetic rip, I joined a worm-pt and pretty much just spammed head butt, frenetic rip and bludgeon all the way to 90, which took me like 20-30 levels from cap after capping out on merits after level 90.
Point is: it's still a pain in the ***?
I burned my BLU from 70. And since I never did it all in one go, I have time to go out and learn new spells.
Leviathan.Draylo said:
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Not true >_>
After I burned up to 75, I just learned some random lowlevel spells while skilling up (which is pretty fast if you spam offensive spells), and once I got frenetic rip, I joined a worm-pt and pretty much just spammed head butt, frenetic rip and bludgeon all the way to 90, which took me like 20-30 levels from cap after capping out on merits after level 90.
After I burned up to 75, I just learned some random lowlevel spells while skilling up (which is pretty fast if you spam offensive spells), and once I got frenetic rip, I joined a worm-pt and pretty much just spammed head butt, frenetic rip and bludgeon all the way to 90, which took me like 20-30 levels from cap after capping out on merits after level 90.
Point is: it's still a pain in the ***?
Not really any more than levling any other job if you dont have the skill leveled up? Skilling up 2hand weapons takes way longer :<
But well, learning spells can suck, but that's not exclusive to burning the job up.
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
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Not true >_> After I burned up to 75, I just learned some random lowlevel spells while skilling up (which is pretty fast if you spam offensive spells), and once I got frenetic rip, I joined a worm-pt and pretty much just spammed head butt, frenetic rip and bludgeon all the way to 90, which took me like 20-30 levels from cap after capping out on merits after level 90.
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Phoenix.Cengeal said:
Bad players come from bad habits and narrow mindedness. They also come from buying gil, buying accounts, hacking accounts, ninja lotting, using people to get what they want, the list goes on like that.
Not true, buying an account is near the same as Abyssea burning your job, you have the capabilities of looking up info on the job if you actually care. Buying gil goes even further into that, if you're buying gil to make a better investment, more power to you. It's your money, do what you want with it. I've met people who cycle through buying accounts and selling gil to make profit, they're the smart ones who are actually making something out of this huge chunk of time we're all wasting.
And to everyone who thinks Abyssea Burning is bad, just shut up already. It's all about how willing the player is to type in a URL, look at some info, and apply it to your job. I've Abyssea burned my BLU and WHM and I feel those are the better of the jobs that I play. I've had probably 2 month's experience on BLU and I know that I'm playing better than most BLUs because I actually care about if I'm doing something right or not. Abyssea isn't ruining the game guys, it's the willingness of the player to learn their job.
Except the things that effect other people's ability to play. Doesn't anyone remember 2006?
Ramuh.Laffter said:
Just, if you do it 30-90, you have to spend a hell of a lot of time doing it, more than if you just had to do it every few levels.
i was upset bst couldnt charm any mobs in abyssea unless they changed it? havent played in a while
Fenrir.Terminus said:
Except the things that effect other people's ability to play. Doesn't anyone remember 2006?
I'm just gonna come out and say it, but does nobody care how they look to other people while they're sitting there spamming a single low level spell in a full-blown exp party?
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Ramuh.Laffter said:
I'm just gonna come out and say it, but does nobody care how they look to other people while they're sitting there spamming a single low level spell in a full-blown exp party?
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I get what everyone is saying here about abyssea and exp leaches. What do you say to someone who (like myself and others in this thread) DO have capped skills, DO have merits, and DO have the knowledge to preform their duty? From what i gather it is: Nothing.
Siren.Sehbeh said:
I get what everyone is saying here about abyssea and exp leaches. What do you say to someone who (like myself and others in this thread) DO have capped skills, DO have merits, and DO have the knowledge to preform their duty? From what i gather it is: Nothing.
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Its just impossible to enjoy exp pt in Abyssea for the gameplay/game mechanics, its just win exp for win exp.
Maybe on next update SE will guive the right to players to choice lv 90 jobs in moghouse and get them from an huge scroll exp paper in delivery box.
I personaly realy miss 6 man exp pt.
Maybe on next update SE will guive the right to players to choice lv 90 jobs in moghouse and get them from an huge scroll exp paper in delivery box.
I personaly realy miss 6 man exp pt.
Knowing proper gear choices also seems to matter. :P
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Siren.Sehbeh said:
I get what everyone is saying here about abyssea and exp leaches. What do you say to someone who (like myself and others in this thread) DO have capped skills, DO have merits, and DO have the knowledge to preform their duty? From what i gather it is: Nothing.
haha, I was thinking just that, but didnt have the heart to post it..
oh well
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Fenrir.Terminus said:
Except the things that effect other people's ability to play. Doesn't anyone remember 2006?
Naw, I just don't want to pay 30k for a stack of mithkabobs.
Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said:
Its just impossible to enjoy exp pt in Abyssea for the gameplay/game mechanics, its just win exp for win exp.
Maybe on next update SE will guive the right to players to choice lv 90 jobs in moghouse and get them from an huge scroll exp paper in delivery box.
I personaly realy miss 6 man exp pt.
Maybe on next update SE will guive the right to players to choice lv 90 jobs in moghouse and get them from an huge scroll exp paper in delivery box.
I personaly realy miss 6 man exp pt.
So your entire reason is a selfish one then.
Ramuh.Laffter said:
Knowing proper gear choices also seems to matter. :P
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