Limitations On Cleaving Exp

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Limitations on cleaving exp
 Fenrir.Curty
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By Fenrir.Curty 2011-06-28 01:23:02  
So I was mass killing some mandies today for some people. And one person made a comment that I didn't need to pull so many because I was killing them at the same time and you can only get exp from 10 mobs at a time form a simultaneous kill. I didn't think this was true at all, but we tried it and I pulled 20 mandies 1 shotted them all, and exp was only received that amounted to 10 deaths.

I ended up pulling 10, weakening them with thermal pulse, then pulling another 10. Use a charged whisker without ascetics so that it wouldn't 1 hit all of them but kill the weak ones, and then finish the rest with a whirl. Exp rate basically doubled/pull after doing this.

Was this common knowledge or is something glitching?
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2011-06-28 01:29:09  
Wasn't that a topic on the previous big (May) update? I think I remembered reading something about that...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7267

...towards the bottom under "Resolved Issues", I think there was this item...

SE.Forums said:
The issue where sudden accumulations of a large quantity of experience points would sometimes reduce the actual amount of experience points earned.

I think originally cleaving hit a cap and people were cognizant of the limits, but since then it was fixed? Or I could be wrong about that, too, of course.

Or maybe they fixed it but still capped it? I don't know.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-28 01:29:32  
Fenrir.Curty said:
So I was mass killing some mandies today for some people. And one person made a comment that I didn't need to pull so many because I was killing them at the same time and you can only get exp from 10 mobs at a time form a simultaneous kill. I didn't think this was true at all, but we tried it and I pulled 20 mandies 1 shotted them all, and exp was only received that amounted to 10 deaths.

I ended up pulling 10, weakening them with thermal pulse, then pulling another 10. Use a charged whisker without ascetics so that it wouldn't 1 hit all of them but kill the weak ones, and then finish the rest with a whirl. Exp rate basically doubled/pull after doing this.

Was this common knowledge or is something glitching?
Pretty sure it's common knowledge
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By Fenrir.Curty 2011-06-28 01:35:07  
It's just weird how many cleaves I've done without anyone mentioning to me that killing 20 monsters at the same time is relatively useless.
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By Fenrir.Kut 2011-06-28 03:33:51  
I want my money back
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-06-28 03:47:58  
Were you actually counting your exp or just checking chat-log? I thought it was just a chat log issue... Although I thought it showed up to 15, not 10.
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By Fenrir.Curty 2011-06-28 12:01:01  
We were counting exp, obviously it does not show chat log of the 20 monsters. For me it was showing chat log for 8, and we were getting exp for 10 monsters when 20+ were killed at same time.
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By Sylph.Systematicchaos 2011-06-28 12:12:23  
Yeah this was discussed awhile ago, but I thought it was concluded to be 8. Could be 10 but 8 show in log. Either way, staggering kills is the way to go now.
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By Cerberus.Lightvision 2011-06-28 12:53:03  
well when i am cleaving i am cleaving for chests as 1st priority more than anything. saying that i cleave for KI not for exp.

people come to leech exp and hold KI but never had any complaints about the exp gain, especially after 19 hour cleaves gaining over 2.9 mil exp for leeches, this also includes killing NMs to clear KIs

also if you can you can, always stagger the pulls so that your doing fast pulls but pulling small amount of mobs, thats if your worried about the exp gain
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By Bismarck.Zagen 2011-06-28 13:01:02  
I don't Fell Cleave burn but I do Whisker Burn, same concept anyways. I used to ask my puller to only pull 8-10 at a time while we had leechers with us but killing 20 instead of 10 also means 10 more chances at 1250 EXP. Since I can't spam Burst Affinity anyways it works out well enough.
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