"Atheist Life Vs. Religious Life" [video]

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 Bismarck.Elanabelle
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-26 13:37:12  


For the record, I am not an Atheist.
However, I agree with the messages in this video, and I think it's important for everyone to think about it.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-26 13:44:20  
There are multiple other threads this could be put in.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-26 13:46:04  
you aren't an atheist? I no longer have any meaning in life after hearing this.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-06-26 13:54:39  
One minute into the video and already spotted Godwin's Law. :/

Not gonna watch the rest of this.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-06-26 13:55:49  
Saw this video a while ago if im not mistaken.

The bit about treatment of women is why my sister turned into a skeptic.

No matter how you dance around it, Biblical text is pretty dead set on women being nothing more than breeding machines, objects and second class humans.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-26 13:58:19  
Anybody ever watch that show on TV.. Think it was on the Life Channel or some crap... Its a married couple with like 13 kids or some crap like that... They are very religious and I think christians don't believe in birth control. Idk, I'm aethist, but that just goes with the whole "breed machine" comment... Just food for thought, cuz idk how true it is...
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-06-26 13:59:58  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Anybody ever watch that show on TV.. Think it was on the Life Channel or some crap... Its a married couple with like 13 kids or some crap like that... They are very religious and I think christians don't believe in birth control. Idk, I'm aethist, but that just goes with the whole "breed machine" comment... Just food for thought, cuz idk how true it is...

lol, that's a pretty broad statement you're trying to make.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-06-26 14:04:14  
I think he means catholics?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-06-26 14:09:26  
It's a broad statement but it's fact that the best way to spread the faith is through childbirth.

Catholics have been the best example of an anti birth control sect but many people choose to just ignore some aspects of religious belief.

Women have wised up in recent times and realized that there is more to life than being pregnant multiple times, rearing children at home and being beholden to a man but depending on your sect, it is a duty to be fruitful and multiply... if you wanna have sex :P
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-26 20:47:27  
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
One minute into the video and already spotted Godwin's Law. :/

Not gonna watch the rest of this.

That's too bad. The best parts of this video are in the middle and towards the end, in my opinion.
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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-06-26 21:03:02  
This guy makes it sounds like atheism and theism are the only options.

Can't tell if this is a troll or not, but I know many practicing theists who have many if not all of the so-called positive traits described in the "atheists can" portion of the video.

And since when are all theists Christians? This guy only seems to be familiar with monotheism. How ignorant. He sounds just as preachy and uninformed as any theist would.

Personally, I know atheism is in vogue but I really don't see the difference between blind faith and blind atheism, or the need for them to be the only two choices. The point of atheism is "think for yourselves," right? Maybe that's what people should start doing instead of falling into either crowd based on popular opinion.
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By Carbuncle.Ianpyst 2011-06-26 21:10:50  
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
This guy makes it sounds like atheism and theism are the only options.

Can't tell if this is a troll or not, but I know many practicing theists who have many if not all of the so-called positive traits described in the "atheists can" portion of the video.

And since when are all theists Christians? This guy only seems to be familiar with monotheism. How ignorant. He sounds just as preachy and uninformed as any theist would.

Personally, I know atheism is in vogue but I really don't see the difference between blind faith and blind atheism, or the need for them to be the only two choices. The point of atheism is "think for yourselves," right? Maybe that's what people should start doing instead of falling into either crowd based on popular opinion.

Why would the creator of the video need to reference other religions when that is not the topic he is addressing? He was a former christian, so its obvious he would be using that as the base of discussion.
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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-06-26 21:12:54  
Carbuncle.Ianpyst said:
Why would the creator of the video need to reference other religions when that is not the topic he is addressing? He was a former christian, so its obvious he would be using that as the base of discussion.

Because his video is entitled "religious live vs. atheist life," not "Christian life vs. atheist life." Unless it's ok to make broad statements about "religion" using only one specific religion as a basis.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-06-26 21:15:04  
The video is targeted to Americans (given the Youtube user is living in the US) and... last I checked, Christianity is the dominating religion of the country.

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Because his video is entitled "religious live vs. atheist life," not "Christian life vs. atheist life." Unless it's ok to make broad statements about "religion" using only one specific religion as a basis.

I agree he should have done a better job labeling his video but its obvious what he's trying to compare.
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By Carbuncle.Ianpyst 2011-06-26 21:15:38  
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Carbuncle.Ianpyst said:
Why would the creator of the video need to reference other religions when that is not the topic he is addressing? He was a former christian, so its obvious he would be using that as the base of discussion.

Because his video is entitled "religious live vs. atheist life," not "Christian life vs. atheist life." Unless it's ok to make broad statements about "religion" using only one specific religion as a basis.

:rolleyes: Nitpicking is really not needed here.
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By ambria 2011-06-26 21:17:50  
Regarding Christianity, birthrates and contraception, there is an old testament scripture which encourages families to have a larger number of offspring. This has given rise to a modern movement known as "the full quiver"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull

I first heard about it on the Reasonable Doubt podcast, which is a great skeptical podcast, also very entertaining.

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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-06-26 21:20:24  
Carbuncle.Ianpyst said:

:rolleyes: Nitpicking is really not needed here.

It's not nitpicking, it's a valid observation based on watching the video and not delving into his personal information to gain more information.

Lakshmi.Sparthosx said:

I agree he should have done a better job labeling his video but its obvious what he's trying to compare.

If I choose to watch the video as "Christianity vs. atheism," then, the point still remains that there are other alternatives that the creator of the video neglects to mention, which still in my opinion is narrow-minded and ignorant. The situation is not either/or, and choosing one does not exclude you from the other.

Let me restate that, choosing one does not exclude you from being able to excercise the qualities that he describes as being reserved only for the other.
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2011-06-26 21:23:54  
My grandmother had 13 children, because Catholics aren't allowed to use birth control.

My mom's friend had 6 children and wanted to stop after 3, but those pesky catholic teachings stopped them from using birth control.

Also, is anyone really shocked that the bible has woman as second class citizens? It was written by guys thousands of years ago. The whole "woman are equal" thing didn't start until very recently. Also, it's still not that way in lots of places right now.

The image they use for that video is a huge face of a baby. I hate babies. I might get around to watching it but that baby face makes me want to punch my monitor hoping that the baby will somehow feel it.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-06-26 21:32:25  
Lasareth said:

I agree he should have done a better job labeling his video but its obvious what he's trying to compare.

If I choose to watch the video as "Christianity vs. atheism," then, the point still remains that there are other alternatives that the creator of the video neglects to mention, which still in my opinion is narrow-minded and ignorant. The situation is not either/or, and choosing one does not exclude you from the other.

Let me restate that, choosing one does not exclude you from being able to excercise the qualities that he describes as being reserved only for the other.

Take it as a simple comparison video.

He isn't showing you alternatives because that isn't the goal of the video.

The goal is to show that often Christianity puts itself on a moral high ground yet one can be equally as moral, fulfilled and a role model as a nonbeliever.

Simple concept eh? Yet so many people don't get it.
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By Carbuncle.Ianpyst 2011-06-26 21:33:00  
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Carbuncle.Ianpyst said:

:rolleyes: Nitpicking is really not needed here.

It's not nitpicking, it's a valid observation based on watching the video and not delving into his personal information to gain more information.
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By Carbuncle.Ianpyst 2011-06-26 21:33:30  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said:

Take it as a simple comparison video.

He isn't showing you alternatives because that isn't the goal of the video.

The goal is to show that often Christianity puts itself on a moral high ground yet one can be equally as moral, fulfilled and a role model as a nonbeliever.

Simple concept eh? Yet so many people don't get it.

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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-06-26 21:34:24  
oh lawdy i be postin in a troll thread i shoulda known
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-26 21:35:47  
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
oh lawdy i be postin in a troll thread i shoulda known
Well, yeah, I mean come on, Religion and Politics section?
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-26 21:46:56  
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
oh lawdy i be postin in a troll thread i shoulda known

This isn't a "troll thread".
Don't be so obtuse.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-26 21:50:15  
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
oh lawdy i be postin in a troll thread i shoulda known

This isn't a "troll thread".
Don't be so obtuse.
Anyone who reads these forums knows that 90% of what you post is inflammatory drivel directed at inciting controversy. Seriously, do any of the threads you make ever end well?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-26 21:50:30  
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said:
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
oh lawdy i be postin in a troll thread i shoulda known
Well, yeah, I mean come on, Elanabelle made the thread?

ftfy
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-26 21:52:25  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said:
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
oh lawdy i be postin in a troll thread i shoulda known
Well, yeah, I mean come on, Elanabelle made the thread?

ftfy
Thanks, preoccupied watching funny stuffz
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-26 21:52:52  
Any time Broski!
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By zahrah 2011-06-26 21:53:40  
Ugh...Every week?!? These exhaust me.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-06-26 21:54:19  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
There are multiple other threads this could be put in.
Couldn't that be said for pretty much every religious thread? I mean they all end up devolving into the same thing anyways.. Maybe have a handful for some variety, but yeah, that pretty much goes for any religion thread made past the first few major ones.

zahrah said:
Ugh...Every week?!? These exhaust me.

Week? WTH rock are you under.. Every 2-3 days minimum.
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