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"MM", comes before as, "in-part" of one of my xangas.

You're wrong. Like I said before, in WindWaker they said the hero of legend split the Triforce of Courage before leaving for another land. And if you played WindWaker you would remember searching for the pieces of the triforce.

About Miyamoto and the timeline. Like I stated before the whole timeline issue was probably started because of the North American Localization team. Pressure was probably built up on the issue and he most likely said there was one to shut people up desipte one not exsisting. And saying there has been one for a long time when they game has been out 25 years is a bit of a strech. I seriously doubt that Miyamoto would have the idea for a 3D Zelda game (aka Skyward Sword) back in 1995 or even before then. Plus Video game studios have a noturious habit of outsourcing fanbooks, manga, animes, etc. If anything that timeline is a reflection of one of the fanbooks writers ideas on the timeline and not Miyamoto.

With all that said. I seriously don't see why this game need a big huge timeline where every single game fits in. Just enjoy the games and stop over analyzing things. That's what started the whole timeline crap in the first place.

*edit* fixing spelling errors.

Dude, the freaking beginning of Wind Waker talks about the "Hero of time" defeating Gannondorf and sealing him away and then Gannondorf came back and they waited for the "hero of time" to come back and defeat him but he never did and the land was flooded.

Why didn't he come back? Because Zelda sent him back in time so he could have a childhood, which leads into Majora's Mask.

So no, YOU'RE wrong. There is no way Majora's Mask and Wind Waker are in the same timeline.

Thank you for proving my point.

How did I prove your point? lol Majora's Mask is on a totally different time line than Wind Waker.

read what you just said.

*edit* look i'm not going to get into this crap with you guys anymore. I said my opinion and the only reason i went and replyed back at all is cause you had to be a troll. Everyone is entitle to an opinion and if you dont like that too bad.

My opinion was that MM took place after Zelda sent Link back in time (OOT) to actually live through his childhood, wherein he went to go and find Navi and ended up in Termina.

Windwaker was the world devoid of Link, because Zelda basically made him non-existent.

You literally just said he didn't come back to defeat Ganondorf because he was sent back in time...

Nobody is trolling, stop using that term.

I think the problem is Michizane doesn't understand how time lines work.

At the end of OOT, Zelda sends Link back into to have a childhood. When this happens, it makes two time lines, one in which The events of OOT with link as an adult happens, and one where it never happens because Zelda sends link back into time and child link and zelda warn the king of Hyrule of Gannondorf and he never gets access to the scared realm in the temple of time.

In the childhood time line, Link leaves Hyrule in search of Navi, which is Majora's Mask.

Now, the other time line, where Adult link defeated Gannondorf, is still going. Gannon comes back, but because Zelda sent Adult link back to the past, he is no longer in this time line to defeat Gannondorf, which is why Hyrule gets flooded to stop Gannondorf, which leads into Wind Waker.

Another problem with your thoery. In OoT when you first meet Zelda she says she has already warned her father about ganondorf, but her father didn't believe her. So why would Link, a kid who grew up in the forest change his opinion? Lacks Logic.

*edit* Also if you played OoT Ganon was not killed by Link, he was only sealed. And if you remember he last words it went some like "i swear i will break out of this seal and i will reap venceages on your desendents." Which is what happened in WindWaker.

That isn't a freaking theory, its what happened, lol.

I don't think Link changed his mind really, Ganondorf just moved against the King. Link didn't really have any interaction with the king in OoT.

So then Zelda sent him back in both timelines?

Really, I think the problem is that time travel is trying to be rationalized.

The main point is, he was denied access into the Sacred Realm. He attacks Hyrule but isn't successful because he didnt have the tri-force. He was to be executed, but they weren't able not (not sure why) so he was sent to the Twilight Realm, which leads into Twilight Princess.

What? lol. He was sent back in the Adult time line. He was never sent back in the childhood timeline because in the adult time line, Zelda sent him back to BEFORE he ever went 7 years into the future.

I blame Dr. Who for everything.

Anyway, does anyone know a good online guide for Twilight Princess? I'm stuck on the Snow ruin place. :|

Oh, I understand. But like any fictional piece involving time travel, there are going to be inconsistencies. If WW is along the path of Adult Link succeeding (in which case, he wasn't sent back in time- as I understand it), then how was that world flooded because he was sent to the past (which would be the Young Link storyline).

Ok, so then we should hold that he was sent back in both timelines?

This might clear it up a bit more.

In Ocarina of Time, Link meets up with Princess Zelda in the courtyard of Hyrule Castle as a child; Zelda and Link look through the window and see Ganondorf bowing before her father, Hyrule’s unnamed king. Zelda notes to Link that she had a dream that prophesied Ganondorf’s takeover of Hyrule, but her father did not believe her story. Zelda sends Link to the Temple of Time to pull the Master Sword in order to prevent Ganondorf’s plans. As Link pulls the Master Sword, Ganondorf is able to get into the newly-opened door to the Sacred Realm, touch the Triforce, and split it into its component parts.

As an adult, in the future, Link witnesses Hyrule succumb to Ganondorf’s rule; just as Zelda’s dream predicted, Ganondorf usurped the Hylian throne and sent the world into darkness using the Triforce of Power. Link confronts Ganondorf, defeats him, and then the Sages seal him in the Sacred Realm.

Link is sent back in time to his childhood, before his original conversation with Princess Zelda. He tells Princess Zelda of his exploits in the future and the legitimacy of her dream. This information from the now alternate future, in conjunction with Ganondorf's overconfidence, led eventually to his capture according to the backstory of Twilight Princess, creating a new future where Ganondorf doesn't take over.

I am sorry, I will change that... In both timelines he ends up as a child?

or in the WW timeline was the Adult Link just sent back to an earlier period?

Again, why would the king believe a kid from the forest if he didn't believe his own daughter? And what proof can they show of Gonandorfs misgivings to pursuade the king?
It doesn't make sence still.

Well, there are 3 timelines actually, correct? Two have Link as an adult; one where he defeated Ganon, and one where he did not.

I guess I am just confused as to why he would be sent back after defeating Ganon.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Zelda_Timeline

Well in the end of OoT he was sent back by Zelda. But most people agreee his memories of the future events was erased. Which leads to another flaw Kimble. If his memories were erase, how could he warn the king?

He was sent back so he could have his childhood back because Zelda felt bad he had to lose 7 years of his life.

I got confused, they don't tell the King, but Link never opens the scared realm which means Ganondorf never gets triforce of power.

He attacks Hyrule without it and loses.

I swear to god you are just making crap up at this point, lol.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/The_End_of_Ocarina_of_Time

And yout not? lol