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LulzSec does it again. Now taking requests.
By Wenuden 2011-06-16 00:04:42
Diabolos.Raelia said: Odin.Zicdeh said: They're not even doing anything any script kiddy couldn't do with 20minutes and a defunct ***. Giving them far too little credit. They'd be getting buttraped in a federal penitentiary if they were doing easy scriptkiddie junk. Unless it comes out two weeks from now that a whole dozen of them have been rounded up, messing with CIA.gov and skittering away clean is proof enough they know what they're doing. I weep for the copycats however...
Considering the CIA site just happened today, and they may not be in America, not sure why you're saying they've gotten away clean with anything. Even if they are in the US, it would take the FBI more than 6 hours to track them down, get a warrant sworn out, and serve it. As for their past "exploits", I doubt any of them put them as high on the priority list as what they did today.
Also, I think you're giving them way too much credit with maybe having encryption that could take a lifetime to crack.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-16 00:13:16
I bet you anything when they get caught (And yes they will get caught) they'll try to jump on the moral highground and say "Well we were doing it for freedom!"
I bet you anything!
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-06-16 00:15:12
Shiva.Flionheart said: I bet you anything when they get caught (And yes they will get caught) they'll try to jump on the moral highground and say "Well we were doing it for freedom!"
I bet you anything!
I was not aware attacking people's property and stealing personal information was freedom. I thought it was terrorism and theft.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-06-16 00:15:39
Condoning nothing. Just because they don't appear to take what they're doing seriously doesn't mean they don't.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-06-16 00:18:44
Diabolos.Raelia said: Condoning nothing. Just because they don't appear to take what they're doing seriously doesn't mean they don't.
Who's saying they don't take it seriously? If anything, they take it too seriously. They aren't actually accomplishing anything other than giving support to internet regulatory laws.
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2011-06-16 01:47:21
If you think an attack of any kind on the CIA doesn't warrant a response, you are wrong.
Also the government isn't some corporation with limited resources that will decide it's too much of a hassle to find out who did it and will just move on.
The government has insane resources and they don't care what it costs, they just want to find who did it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama made a remark about this and how he will stop them. Finding Osama put a huge spike in his popularity, so I wouldn't be shocked at all if he starts a crusade against them.
Attacking the CIA, no matter how they did it, was the stupidest thing they could have done.
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By Leviathan.Dreamx 2011-06-16 02:12:12
Lakshmi.Jesi said: If you think an attack of any kind on the CIA doesn't warrant a response, you are wrong.
Also the government isn't some corporation with limited resources that will decide it's too much of a hassle to find out who did it and will just move on.
The government has insane resources and they don't care what it costs, they just want to find who did it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama made a remark about this and how he will stop them. Finding Osama put a huge spike in his popularity, so I wouldn't be shocked at all if he starts a crusade against them.
Attacking the CIA, no matter how they did it, was the stupidest thing they could have done.
I'm so excited to see how this takes play, I want to see these *** go down. Someone needs to show that the internet does have consequences and isn't just an anarchy-like system.
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By Phoenix.Destrac 2011-06-16 02:13:09
Looking forward to the day these idiots get arrested.
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By Artemicion 2011-06-16 02:15:04
It's funny how those who's greatest interest in net neutrality work so hard to drive it into the ground with policy makers.
Talk about being counter productive.
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2011-06-16 02:33:28
Shiva.Flionheart said: I bet you anything when they get caught (And yes they will get caught) they'll try to jump on the moral highground and say "Well we were doing it for freedom!"
I bet you anything!
sad since the internet has the most freedom then anything anyway especially with anon.
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By Phoenix.Ingraham 2011-06-16 02:45:58
This is obviously an elaborate scheme to get people to stop saying "umad" and "lulz".
and it won't work, of course
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By Siren.Catabolic 2011-06-16 03:00:58
Diabolos.Raelia said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Diabolos.Raelia said: They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world. So was Al Qaeda. And they were easy to track down?
It took ten years and a huge break to find Bin Laden, and he was chilling in a fairly populated area.
They knew were Bin Laden was for a long time. They kept him alive to find out as much information and take down as many of his followers as they could before they had to push the trigger. They wanted to make sure there would be no uprising after they snuffed him out.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-06-16 13:28:16
Raelia, Tor just provides a layer of anonymity I doubt they are taking extreme measures to guarantee anonymity (the closest I can think of is stolen laptops that only connect via random WiFis behind layers of proxies) at all times. One if not most of them will slip up or have already connecting via their home ISP.
They've already arrested over 30 people they think are affiliated with the group "anon" from different Countries in EU. To think any of them are protected would be ignorant and would require you having a false sense of security in the easily obtainable anonymity tools available. Given the way they are going about these attacks just proves they aren't straight pro, if they were we wouldn't hear much about it and they would actually be turning a profit.
Also to say:
Diabolos.Raelia said: They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world.
Trust me hackers keep tabs on other hackers especially friends, when trails of information are sprinkled around about people from time to time.. they hold on to it.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-06-16 14:16:35
I'm way more impressed with Anonymous, and they're getting taken down left and right.
I was also impressed by WikiLeaks, and they're either in prison, under house arrest, or otherwise dead in the water.
The question isn't whether you can be found, but whether or not you make it worth the while of powerful institutions to do so in terms of time and money.
The fact these guys don't seem to understand that is way more illuminating about their actual experience level than the details of the attacks themselves.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2011-06-16 14:21:41
Shiva.Flionheart said: They're glorified attention ***.
No-one likes attention ***.
I'll laugh when they get arrested, I really will. Do they honestly think they'll consistently get away with this and then just get a slap on the wrist?
this
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-06-16 14:33:38
I anxiously await their responses when they get caught.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-16 14:34:46
Hackers are cool hipsters man..
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-06-16 18:44:56
FYI
change all of ya'lls passwords for everything right now LOL. they released 62k passwords and emails and people have been getting into other people's xboxlive, facebook, youtube, twitter, paypal, amazon etc etc.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-06-16 19:00:02
Do NOT post links to stuff like that. Treat it like we did wikileaks. Related articles only.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-06-16 19:02:33
Links like what? o.0
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By Kujata.Daus 2011-06-16 19:03:00
I actually kinda liked having that list of emails just to see if anybody I know was on it...thankfully werent.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-06-16 19:03:06
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Links like what? o.0 Deleted posts are hidden to everyone except the poster and the mods/admins.
Don't post links that show any of the information they've revealed.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-06-16 19:03:37
Kujata.Daus said: I actually kinda liked having that list of emails just to see if anybody I know was on it...thankfully werent. It showed part of the passwords for them. Having 1/3 - 1/2 of a password makes cracking much easier.
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By Kujata.Daus 2011-06-16 19:04:54
Ramuh.Krizz said: Kujata.Daus said: I actually kinda liked having that list of emails just to see if anybody I know was on it...thankfully werent. It showed part of the passwords for them. Having 1/3 - 1/2 of a password makes cracking much easier.
well then Im glad I had that link..lol
rest of you can suffer
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-06-16 19:05:26
Didn't notice the password part, only looked at the email part.
By Damiyen 2011-06-16 19:11:28
I'm having trouble finding what database this stuff was leaked from...... Assuming 4chan
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-06-16 19:14:13
12000 of them are from writerspace.com
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-06-16 22:51:17
62k is such a tiny number get worked up over nothing also gizmodo provided an article with a search feature to search your e-mail to see if it's on the list. Or download the full txt doc and check for yourself
Quote: UPDATED: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Escapist Magazine, Minecraft and League of Legends Servers
Hacker collective Lulz Security, aka LulzSec, have taken down four high-profile targets today, with more to come from community requests.
Hacker collective LulzSec, or as it calls itself, "the world's leaders in high-quality entertainment at your expense," has so far taken down three sets of servers today -- those belonging to CCP's EVE Online, Escapist Magazine and Minecraft.
The group's agenda isn't entirely clear right now, besides this tweet, which claims "we did it because they couldn't stop us." Today's targets don't appear to have a common thread, besides being video game related. Presumably the group is trying to make a point about lackluster security, and clearly believes that it is both above the law and able to do anything it wants. The group has even been brazen enough to set up a phone number for the community to request new "targets."
LulzSec has also claimed responsibility for attacks on Sony Pictures, PBS.org, Fox.com and Bethesda in recent weeks.
If you are a user of one of the affected services, be sure to change your login details once the group finishes having its "fun." According to Notch on Twitter, Minecraft is now back up. The Escapist and EVE Online still appear to be down at the time of writing.
UPDATE: The group now claims to have taken down the League of Legends login servers as well as eight other sites requested by users phoning in.
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