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Kirin - Single MNK kill ?
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By Blazed1979 2011-05-31 06:03:30  
Going to be making an attempt at this.
Title says "Single MNK Kill" and NOT solo because while the MNK will be the only one attacking Kirin, I will have my WHM healing me and a friend's PLD on any adds that might spawn.

I've done this @ 75 with 3 other MNKs, 2x BRDs, a WHM and a RDM/NIN kiter. All MNKs were standard shura/b.haidate/destroyers/black belt geared.

Going to be attempting this @ Lv.90 with verethragnas.
Will open up with a fully buffed 300% smite followed by HF.
support will be 2x BRDs, 1x PLD, 1x WHM.

My prediction: if Summons are handled well by Ochain PLD, Fight should 4-8 Minutes. 60-65% of Kirin's HP will be gone before soulvoiced songs wear off.

Songs - 2x Minuets 2x March songs (even though I'll have HF up, 300% aftermath will outlast HF, and it will be good to have that extra speed for the remaining 25-35 seconds of aftermath)

Any thoughts?
gauntlet has been thrown down.Lets see if anyone has the ballz to try this. I think its going to be piss easy tbh.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-05-31 06:17:33  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
I would say bring a rdm instead of whm for mp efficiency if they have a strong cure set but sounds interesting. Good luck
Would MP be a problem with the bards?
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-05-31 06:19:07  
9 mp/tick from them alone, virtual minikin.

Edit: 12 mp/tick adding the other bard's ballad1.
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-05-31 06:19:34  
*Assuming bards are good: having +2 pants and rare/ex ballad instrument.
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By Blazed1979 2011-05-31 06:20:13  
Was considering RDM only for the enfeebling magic. But I think a WHM with 45% cure potency and 10+ refresh/tic from gear + ballads2/3 should be fine.
I highly doubt that should I be unlucky enough to get a Carby Astral-Flow I will be put into red hp, but its nice to have a CureV ready just in case.
Also, I want Kirin to be swinging as much as possible to increase dmg output through counters. I doubt deadly hold is going to do more than 400-600 dmg even with counterstance up.

Will see, could be wrong. However, one other job i can see doing this and absolutely winning with no real challenge providing summons are handled is WAR/SAM Ukon with a decent X-hit build and a COR putting up SAM rolls.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-05-31 06:22:05  
I actually really want to see this, any chance one of you can record it?
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-05-31 06:32:37  
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I actually really want to see this, any chance one of you can record it?
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By Blazed1979 2011-05-31 06:34:15  
2x soulvoiced Minuets should put me at atk cap with red curry and berserk up, before any inclining atk from consecutive landed rounds of attacks from impetus. 2 songs would be wasted.
STR etudes might be nice though, but I think that would be more suited towards a war/sam where their ws dmg is going to be a greater % of their overall dmg. Victory Smite is nice, but its not going to make up more than 45-55% of my overall dmg on this fight, if that.
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By Blazed1979 2011-05-31 06:36:57  
yeah, I won't attempt this without frapsing it.
We frapsed the first kirin zerg back in 2006, or was it 2005?
idk I will look for the video posted by uzuragi somewhere.
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2011-05-31 06:43:15  
soulvoice march1+2, haste spell, capped gear haste puts you at delay cap (80% iirc) and that's faster than 100 fists so you're probably better off doing 100 fists when songs wear off rather than with songs on.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-05-31 06:49:01  
Are you going to parse it as well?
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2011-05-31 06:56:15  
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Are you going to parse it as well?
Speaking of parsing. I had 4 Kirin zergs that I loaded up KParser for, and forgot to parse. FML... always forget these little things :(
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2011-05-31 07:16:41  
a prop geared sch might help, being able give you regain a slight stat boost with weather among other things.
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-31 07:22:04  
you will be ok as long whms use sch sub conserve mp procs/sublimation and penuries
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By Blazed1979 2011-05-31 07:56:23  
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Are you going to parse it as well?
other than acc rating, which should be capped @90 vs Kirin, wouldn't be much use since its only 1 mnk vs 1 mob. Video will show ws highs/lows.
Can parse if people want me to, but afaik kparse isn't working? or is it now fixed?

EDIT: Thanks Yarly, that might actually have guaranteed win.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-05-31 08:10:11  
i posted a video not too long ago of a war duoing with a smn. a mnk with support should be ok.
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By Blazed1979 2011-05-31 15:21:10  
did you fraps it? if so can you post the link pls?
curious to know how much dmg the war was taking, and was he using relic/empyrean? we pushed back run to friday. so will post then.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2011-05-31 15:31:43  
This is relevant to my interests.
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By Odin.Headstrong 2011-05-31 15:32:21  
I think he was talking about this >:

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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-05-31 20:57:03  
yes! that's the video. danke. they didn't even use windower. if you don't win with all that support you fail!
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By Odin.Headstrong 2011-05-31 21:08:35  
I showed it to a friend and he wants to try it too now :O He's also Mnk like the OP and i think i will put some TH on it if they invite me D:
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-05-31 21:12:59  
That video is ***. The warrior had multiple SV buffs going, as made incredibly obvious by their attack speed and damage. He's not even at capped gear-haste.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2011-05-31 21:16:10  
2 verethragna(ukon or masamune probably work fine too) brd whm should be enough to kill without 2hrs. I know for sure it has been killed without too much trouble with a mnk mnk brd whm setup.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-05-31 21:21:54  
Was able to kill kirin solo (for DD) BLU with just rdm + whm for support, no BRD. I would hope you'd be able to do it with two of them. One add popped right at the end but died before it could do anything (when kirin died). Spells did anywhere from 800-2000 depending on JA's and such. Really easy.
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By Fenrir.Tarowyn 2011-05-31 21:23:34  
Remora.Dodu said:
That video is ***. The warrior had multiple SV buffs going, as made incredibly obvious by their attack speed and damage. He's not even at capped gear-haste.
I believe his 2nd char has brd and smn on two seperate accts, so what he does is logs on the brd, soul voice songs, locks the war with the ???, logs onto smn and that's where the video starts.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-05-31 21:32:09  
I just noticed you said you were planning on using CS against kirin? I'm about 95% positive that's a horrible idea. He'll totally destroy you. You realize kirin rarely attacks normally right? It's almost always a tp move.
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