WHM DD?

As to breaking an actual -50% cap on -casttime, I got nothing.

But we are not talking about being self sufficient. We are talking about playing DD on a white mage. It's a waste of space in a PT and is only an option that can be considered for solo and I would like to know if you can think of a situation besides FOV/GOV where you would solo as a white mage. Nobody is going to invite a white mage to a PT or event or what not if they say oh hey I'm not going to heal I'm going to DD. No, that's what the DD are for., your job is to heal. Just like I would not turn up on monk and tell them I will not DD I'll hang back and use /dnc to main heal. It is a complete contradiction to the purpose of white mage.

i'm sure a whm could keep up fine in an xp party in abyssea, but outside of that, it's probably better not to. it's not a waste of space, because if you can heal and still do damage, then you're helping more than if you were healing and not doing damage.

i'm sure a whm could keep up fine in an xp party in abyssea, but outside of that, it's probably better not to. it's not a waste of space, because if you can heal and still do damage, then you're helping more than if you were healing and not doing damage.

Not misled in the least, I know full well the capabilities of WHM DD outside Abyssea. Just because I discourage people from taking WHM DD seriously doesn't mean I haven't dabbled in it. Back in the 75 days, I built a solid DD set that most WHMs would kill for. Culacula, Kraken Club, Blessed hands/legs/feet +1, Lava+Kusha rings, Resilient Mantle with STR+1 Acc+2 Atk+15, etc. I tried DD on pretty much everything under the sun before I condemned it. I even developed a bit of a reputation on my server for taking apart Campaign NMs solo on WHM/NIN (again, this was at Lv75). I even tried HNM tanking with Yagrush Poisona spam before they added Divine Benison. Again, like I said in my first post, it can be done and it can be done effectively, but it will never compete with a DD of equal caliber. It's a novelty, nothing more. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying you're kidding yourself if you think WHM is an awesome DD outside Abyssea. As far as DDing and healing at the same time, and idiots here spouting BS like they can heal with their eyes closed, I say this: Then you aren't healing. You're curing. There's a difference. If you're not too busy to swing a hammer as a WHM then you're doing it wrong or your crew has too many healers and there's no harm in DDing it up. A WHM should be constantly busy keeping up buffs like Prot/Shell/Auspice/Barspells/Boosts, casting Haste/Refresh, Cures, preventative stuff like Stoneskinga & Regens, ailment removal, etc. There is a lot for WHM to do. If you feel like it's easy then it's because you aren't trying. WHM is an endless game of optimization, no matter how good you are you'll still have to make split-second decisions which can affect the outcome of the battle. The more preoccupied you are by trying to melee, the less attention will be on those split-second decisions. I've met countless people who claim to be able to multi-task effectively like this, but every time I've watched them try to do it they fail miserably. The funny thing is, they don't even realize it, they always think they're doing fine but it's usually because the rest of the group is working 10 times harder, or I'm covering the duties they are neglecting.

Pergatory you are completely mistaken, you can ask Terminus and around on Fenrir how much I can do outside abyssea and that was at 75, I can easily main heal and dd. Maybe it is you who is misled.

The next time you feel the need to be incredibly long winded and self-aggrandizing, how about you make sure what you're saying is actually applicable. Nobody is suggesting you start wacking away at Apedemak, we're all quite clearly talking about Abyssea fodder. This is, of course, assuming you're not speaking on behalf of the actual topic, because if you're trying to attribute complexity of that degree to meriting, wow.

WHM can DD

I'd encourage you to have some fun and DD from time to time in meaningless events, like Abyssea farming or Campaign.

Again, like I said in my first post, it can be done and it can be done effectively

I'm not saying don't do it

If you're not too busy to swing a hammer as a WHM then you're doing it wrong

constantly busy keeping up buffs like Prot/Shell/Auspice/Barspells/Boosts, casting Haste/Refresh, Cures, preventative stuff like Stoneskinga & Regens, ailment removal, etc.

WHM is an endless game of optimization, no matter how good you are you'll still have to make split-second decisions which can affect the outcome of the battle.