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 Bismarck.Issymo
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By Bismarck.Issymo 2011-05-22 17:49:07  
I can't seem to find the rules about conduct in forum or towards moderators can you point me to the link?
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-05-22 17:49:15  
@ Anye

Lies!
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-05-22 17:49:54  
Bismarck.Issymo said:
I can't seem to find the rules about conduct in forum or towards moderators can you point me to the link?
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21172/new-forum-rules
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-05-22 17:50:32  
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:

I sent you this PM months ago Krizz did you ever get to read it? And how do you feel about it's message now? I feel the same as I did then and if one looks at the way Scragg and Jaerik handle themselves in their posts it's clear they do not condescend

Yeah I know I'm going to be flamed for posting this and how sentimental it is but I still mean it. I do enjoy this site and I want it to thrive guys
I did read it. It wasn't intended to be condescending, and I usually use that when it's a more regular group of posters. Just an attempt at keeping things a bit more lighthearted, and not seem like I'm slamming down on the thread.

it doesn't seem lighthearted

it seems condescending
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-05-22 17:54:02  
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:

I sent you this PM months ago Krizz did you ever get to read it? And how do you feel about it's message now? I feel the same as I did then and if one looks at the way Scragg and Jaerik handle themselves in their posts it's clear they do not condescend

Yeah I know I'm going to be flamed for posting this and how sentimental it is but I still mean it. I do enjoy this site and I want it to thrive guys
I did read it. It wasn't intended to be condescending, and I usually use that when it's a more regular group of posters. Just an attempt at keeping things a bit more lighthearted, and not seem like I'm slamming down on the thread.

it doesn't seem lighthearted

it seems condescending
That's your opinion. Nobody that I said that to has complained. Josiah was an outside party PMing me about it. Either way, I don't think I've used it since.
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By Cerberus.Jiko 2011-05-22 17:55:43  
More for Scragg or Jaerik, but can it be possible to add missing crafting recipes (via member submission, or admin) to items that dont currently have them?

One I can think of off hand would be an Argent coat, and im sure theres plenty of more out there. It would be a big help for us crafters! ^^
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-05-22 17:55:52  
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@ Anye

Lies!
You're right; I'm lying. Here's the deal:

Every month, Jaerik sends us a pixel of a picture, supposedly, of him.

We've been piecing it together obsessively each subsequent month.

That's the only motivation for our thankless job. :>

-edit- inb4 rush of people wanting to be mods
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-05-22 17:56:39  
Thanks mod team :p There it's no longer thankless lol
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-05-22 17:57:05  
Cerberus.Jiko said:
More for Scragg or Jaerik, but can it be possible to add missing crafting recipes (via member submission, or admin) to items that dont currently have them?

One I can think of off hand would be an Argent coat, and im sure theres plenty of more out there. It would be a big help for us crafters! ^^
I'll have to see if it's still there, but when we were getting FFXIVPro up to par, mods could add and edit recipes. I'd imagine it's on FFXIAH as well since they're basically the same site.
 
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 Lakshmi.Jaerik
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-05-22 17:57:12  
Scragg can provide the list of filtered words. It's his list.

More accurately, he applied the list, but the list was essentially decided by our site sponsors.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-05-22 17:57:21  
Ragnarok.Anye said:
Fairy.Spence said:
@ Anye

Lies!
You're right; I'm lying. Here's the deal:

Every month, Jaerik sends us a pixel of a picture, supposedly, of him.

We've been piecing it together obsessively each subsequent month.

That's the only motivation for our thankless job. :>
I want in on that!
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-05-22 17:57:41  
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Nobody that I said that to has complained.

well, yeah

they don't want to end up warned or banned

people not complaining to you isn't a very good indicator of how they feel about it

yeah we've heard about how it's still legal to argue with a mod but i think the majority of the site is afraid of getting on thier "bad side" all the same
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-05-22 17:58:49  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
At least now we understand how you feel about the issue instead of just assumptions running rampant /shrug
This is one of the main goals I have for this thread. Assumptions get us nowhere. I know people won't like me. Such is the life of a moderator. I'd at least prefer them to not like me for a legit reason.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-05-22 17:59:11  
Cerberus.Jiko said:
More for Scragg or Jaerik, but can it be possible to add missing crafting recipes (via member submission, or admin) to items that dont currently have them?

One I can think of off hand would be an Argent coat, and im sure theres plenty of more out there. It would be a big help for us crafters! ^^
We try not to apply a sort of "truth by wiki" format to our site. We let places like ffxyclopedia (either version) specialize in that.

Our site philosophy is precisely the opposite. Mainly, "untouched by human hands." If we can automatically collect / parse / scrape it, we put it up there. If a user (or even an admin) has to apply judgment to what should be empirical data, then we've failed.

If a recipe is wrong, well... I'm pretty sure admins or mods can correct it when reported. But it requires a manual verification process from our end.
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By Bismarck.Issymo 2011-05-22 17:59:54  
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Bismarck.Issymo said:
I can't seem to find the rules about conduct in forum or towards moderators can you point me to the link?
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21172/new-forum-rules


Ok thanks, one question if someone said a swear word to a moderator in pm e.g F**k off etc. Would they get highest ban? Or fall under the first/second/third warning etc rule?
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2011-05-22 18:00:49  
Bismarck.Issymo said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Bismarck.Issymo said:
I can't seem to find the rules about conduct in forum or towards moderators can you point me to the link?
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21172/new-forum-rules


Ok thanks, one question if someone said a swear word to a moderator in pm e.g F**k off etc. Would they get highest ban? Or fall under the first/second/third warning etc rule?


Would just be banned depending how far the PM went or PM privileges taken away.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-22 18:01:01  
Bismarck.Issymo said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Bismarck.Issymo said:
I can't seem to find the rules about conduct in forum or towards moderators can you point me to the link?
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21172/new-forum-rules


Ok thanks, one question if someone said a swear word to a moderator in pm e.g F**k off etc. Would they get highest ban? Or fall under the first/second/third warning etc rule?
I would imagine that's mostly up the discretion of the mod to judge the user's past..

Either way, if you cuss out a mod, I wouldn't expect to be posting for a while afterwards.

If nothing else, it's the easiest way to get on their bad side, and where they might be more lenient for an infraction, their tolerance/patients for you wouldn't be as great..
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2011-05-22 18:01:57  
How many different color mods are there and what do the colors represent?
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-05-22 18:02:05  
Bismarck.Issymo said:
Ok thanks, one question if someone said a swear word to a moderator in pm e.g F**k off etc. Would they get highest ban? Or fall under the first/second/third warning etc rule?
Depends on context. If I'm giving a first-offense-ever warning, it'll most likely be upped to a temp ban. At that point most users flip, and earn themselves a permaban.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-05-22 18:02:36  
Ramuh.Krizz said:
I know people won't like me. Such is the life of a moderator.

and yet people like anye and jearik

quite a bit, actually

i think blaming it on the bar is not the right answer
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-05-22 18:03:11  
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said:
How many different color mods are there and what do the colors represent?
Green are the only moderators. Red are the only admins. Purple is for... "partner sites"? I don't know if J has a different term he prefers.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-05-22 18:03:17  
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said:
How many different color mods are there and what do the colors represent?

2

green mod

red admin


purple staff on affiliated site
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-05-22 18:03:29  
I like Krizz.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-22 18:03:32  
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said:
How many different color mods are there and what do the colors represent?
Red = Admin
Green = Mod..

I know purple is for the guild work partner thingy, and I think users from long ago could also have the bar.
 
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-22 18:04:22  
There needs to be a Rainbow Flionheart bar.
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By Asura.Chuuuuu 2011-05-22 18:04:38  
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I like Krizz.
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