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Ebisu Fishing Rod = Relic
Unicorn.Nitsuj
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By Unicorn.Nitsuj 2011-04-26 16:52:41
I'd just like to start a petition that the Ebisu Fishing Rod counts as a relic. Not necessarily achievements if it doesn't fit into the formula, but listed under your name, similar to how Maat's cap used to be a relic.
Ebisu is still very hard to obtain, and even if someone was able to fishbot their way to 100 fishing, they still have to get the very expensive key item from the fishing guild and do days and days of fishing to Zaldon's quest to acquire the rod.
If anyone agrees or disagrees, feel free to post pro's and con's here ^^
If you're not familar, the rod is a better unbreakable version of Lu Shang's, and rare/ex. Info here:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ebisu_Fishing_Rod
Info on the quest to obtain:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Indomitable_Spirit
Thanks!
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By Sylph.Chrisstreb 2011-04-26 16:57:22
it probably wont happen considering theres probably a ton of people out there that have the rod already. And its not really 'hard' to get the items for Ebisu, just luck with the fish (which you can buy). You really only need the KI to complete the quest
By DuzellLevi 2011-04-26 16:57:51
An Ebisu Rod should easily be worth at least as many achevement points as a Empyrian Weapon.
Approve
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By Bahamut.Wakabo 2011-04-26 17:04:47
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By Bismarck.Raistlinratt 2011-04-26 17:07:30
I'd say its on the same scale as empyrean weapons. Why not? Approve.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-04-26 17:07:48
Time to get my fish bot rolling again, dem achievement points :E
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-04-26 17:08:10
Except when you factor in the fishing bots into the equation and then the difficulty is significantly lowered. If they add this, then Maat's Cap should be readded. Both of which I'm against.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mikania 2011-04-26 17:08:13
Ebisu as relic? meh~
I only had to buy 3 Lu.rods, because I had to dbox the broken rods to my WW mule ; ;. I have a screenshot of me breaking 3 rods in a row! from Gugrusaurus >.<
Used up 2 Penguin Ring, at least until I got my Seagull Ring (1/1 yay~).
All in all
1/3 lik
1/350s gug (all fished up, nu buying!)
/wrist
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By Phoenix.Degs 2011-04-26 17:08:48
Maybe add a new achievement scale for crafting/hobbies/etc.... since there are many many "relic type" achievements in that genre. I would vote for that, but probably not specifically for it to be classified as a relic.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-26 17:12:12
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By Lakshmi.Andromida 2011-04-26 17:19:33
Sylph.Chrisstreb said: it probably wont happen considering theres probably a ton of people out there that have the rod already. And its not really 'hard' to get the items for Ebisu, just luck with the fish (which you can buy). You really only need the KI to complete the quest You could say the same about a relic in regards to it not being hard, just time consuming and you buy the items for relics anyway.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2011-04-26 17:19:59
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By Bismarck.Cerelyn 2011-04-26 17:20:12
DuzellLevi said: An Ebisu Rod should easily be worth at least as many achevement points as a Empyrian Weapon.
Approve
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By Bismarck.Raistlinratt 2011-04-26 17:20:45
Fishing bots can farm gil, and then buy an empyrean. I still think Ebisu IS an "achievement" Doesn't have to be worth full "relic" points, but should probably be worth something no? For the people who actually work to get it, if nothing else. Who cares if its an extra little picture on someone's achievement list. Idk why everyone is so against it?
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-26 17:21:48
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By Asura.Eeek 2011-04-26 17:22:50
I think my WoE Empyrean should count too!
I'm thinking 5, maybe 6 points.
Quetzalcoatl.Roark
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By Quetzalcoatl.Roark 2011-04-26 17:22:59
ebisu is not really an achievement, you can 100% bot it...i mean, ppl like urat have it
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-04-26 17:26:39
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By Fenrir.Enternius 2011-04-26 17:31:26
Arguing that it's easy to get if you bot and therefore shouldn't be an achievement, is like arguing that if you use a bot to claim an NM, it should drop nothing.
Either way you look at it, I believe that Fishing is currently the hardest thing in the game, or at least most time-consuming, and Ebisu Rod is one of the hardest solo things to get.
Personally I don't give two fricks either way, achievement points have never mattered to me, but I do believe you should get some kind of commendation for it.
Unicorn.Nitsuj
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By Unicorn.Nitsuj 2011-04-26 17:37:24
Bahamut.Wakabo said: Maat's Cap*
Thanks, fixed.
Also, I'm not saying it has to be achievement point-worthy, but the "relic" notification under your name would suffice to allow people to show off their dedication to the fishing :)
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By Ramuh.Leif 2011-04-26 17:40:39
Fenrir.Enternius said: but I do believe you should get some kind of commendation for it. A note from SE added to your Permanent Key Items, which reads as follows.
Quote: Thanks for paying the monthly fee.
Sincerely,
Square Enix
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-26 17:45:07
I'm with Hypnotizd and Chrisstreb on this one.
Fenrir.Enternius said: Either way you look at it, I believe that Fishing is currently the hardest thing in the game
i lol'd
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Sylph.Sachmo
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By Sylph.Sachmo 2011-04-26 17:45:20
I concur, an Ebisu Rod should count for some points. Maybe not as much as a Relic or Emp. weapon, but at least as much as the fishing skill required to do the quest if not more, because you can't just buy the fish and get the rod... A certain level of fishing is required as well as guild points acquired and spent, just to be able to turn the items in to attain it. It took me nearly a year to get mine catching my own fish, almost as long as it took me to get my Mandau, that alone should speak volumes about what it should be worth.
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2011-04-26 17:48:29
it should give more points than the 1weeklolemps
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-26 17:49:13
This is exactly why No.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-04-26 17:49:19
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: I'm with Hypnotizd and Chrisstreb on this one.
Fenrir.Enternius said: Either way you look at it, I believe that Fishing is currently the hardest thing in the game
i lol'd you lol, but with people fatiguing out at 10 fish, it very well could be
By Enigmatic 2011-04-26 17:49:31
Points NOT relic
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zagam 2011-04-26 17:50:51
Quetzalcoatl.Roark said: ebisu is not really an achievement, you can 100% bot it...i mean, ppl like urat have it You can 100% scan bazzars for relic , you can 100% bot emps that doesn't mean all do and actually work for it, same with ebisu but ebisu is actually harder regardless of cheating.
Approve.
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Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-26 18:01:41
You can't 100% bot relics. You can't just afk and come back to a bunch of empy items in your inventory... You have to actually farm/buy pop items, pop the said NM, proc red, kill it etc etc. No bot that can do all that for someone while they afk.
I'd just like to start a petition that the Ebisu Fishing Rod counts as a relic. Not necessarily achievements if it doesn't fit into the formula, but listed under your name, similar to how Maat's cap used to be a relic.
Ebisu is still very hard to obtain, and even if someone was able to fishbot their way to 100 fishing, they still have to get the very expensive key item from the fishing guild and do days and days of fishing to Zaldon's quest to acquire the rod.
If anyone agrees or disagrees, feel free to post pro's and con's here ^^
If you're not familar, the rod is a better unbreakable version of Lu Shang's, and rare/ex. Info here:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ebisu_Fishing_Rod
Info on the quest to obtain:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Indomitable_Spirit
Thanks!
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