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Job Adjustments (4/21/11)
 Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-04-22 12:15:03
Bloodrose said: Dhorme Khimairas, Statues, Altepa Dolls, (and yes, the occasional pt in La Theine on worms) but I don't encompasse a single mob as part of my average.
Warwolf Belt would be better by far -in theory- because of the VIT, but take into account a single hit ws is much less accurate than a multi-hit ws, and the STR/VIT/STP gear most others use in place of accuracy, even with various foods. The Food i use, is Hedgehog Pies over Red Curry Buns
Single hit WS is more accurate due to first hit of ANY weapon skill getting an ACC bonus.
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-04-22 12:15:23
Odin.Zicdeh said: the damage discrepency between Abyssea and not-abyssea is less than 15%
so ***inside, ***outside
By Inuyasha 2011-04-22 12:18:06
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:  This couldn't be a better time to be a DRK than now. Grats PUPs and RNGs too, you guys needed the boosts.
im actually waiting to see the "Clank uses Ranged Attack" "Clanks Ranged Attack misses!" with the Barrage effect....because if the first hit of Barrage misses they all miss...if it truely acts like Barrage.
holyshitstorminstaTPwhileTPingwithinhibitor O_O!
im gunna overload so much doing Ice Manuevers the way i do them :X
VE counter tank?
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-04-22 12:18:12
Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: the damage discrepency between Abyssea and not-abyssea is less than 15%
so ***inside, ***outside
Not really compare it to other Dark WS it's really good.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 12:18:52
Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: the damage discrepency between Abyssea and not-abyssea is less than 15%
so ***inside, ***outside
***inside, better than Victory Smite outside.
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-04-22 12:36:29
I wonder if this will make King's Justice better outside finally. Hmmm.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 12:39:21
I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_>
It's just too good to be true >_< lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-22 12:40:09
Asura.Vyre said: I wonder if this will make King's Justice better outside finally. Hmmm. Finally?
That'd be a bad thing. "Nerf our better ws so this one can take top spot by default".
Now if they buffed KJ, then that'd be another story, lol.
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By Inuyasha 2011-04-22 12:42:16
Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right!
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 12:43:58
Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right!
Nope, job specific merits arent boosted.
Just stats and magic/combat skills + "others"(enmity/crit merits)
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By Ramuh.Leif 2011-04-22 12:44:41
Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right! You didn't read it right.
They're raising merits on HP/MP, Attributes, Combat Skills, Magic Skills, and Other.
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By Diabolos.Inuyushi 2011-04-22 12:45:02
Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right!
JA Haste caps at 25%, more merits would be worthless iirc
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 12:45:10
Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right!
You don't understand it correctly. Job specific merits are unaffected by the merit boost anyway.
As for the potential of a desperate blows oversight, it's entirely possible, I'm not sure how probable though. Desperate blows is by no means an "Under the Radar" kind of thing.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 12:45:27
Diabolos.Inuyushi said: Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right!
JA Haste caps at 25%, more merits would be worthless iirc
This too :p
By Inuyasha 2011-04-22 12:46:50
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right! Nope, job specific merits arent boosted. Just stats and magic/combat skills + "others"(enmity/crit merits) darn :/
so i guess "Job Specific" merits arent going to get a boost until 99 when they add new ones...
good thing is though, more eva and crit hit merits for me!
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 12:47:36
Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right! Nope, job specific merits arent boosted. Just stats and magic/combat skills + "others"(enmity/crit merits) darn :/
so i guess "Job Specific" merits arent going to get a boost until 99 when they add new ones...
good thing is though, more eva and crit hit merits for me!
You still wont be able to get more than 4 eva merits I think, just gonna be able to merit up more things to max lol
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-04-22 12:48:42
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Asura.Vyre said: I wonder if this will make King's Justice better outside finally. Hmmm. Finally? That'd be a bad thing. "Nerf our better ws so this one can take top spot by default". Now if they buffed KJ, then that'd be another story, lol. Nah, my train of thought was sort of like, when King's Justice first came out and even up until Abyssea a lot of my buds on War advocated using it over Raging Rush no matter what. Wasn't thinking in relation to Ukko's either. I still get some War friends trying to tell me KJ beats RR outside, without Mighty Strikes up, which kind of makes me lol
By Inuyasha 2011-04-22 12:49:22
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Inuyasha said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: I get this feeling SE totally forgot about desperate blows, and will gimp the duration alot pretty fast >_> It's just too good to be true >_< lol they will have an "Emergency Update" after they implement this one like they always do :) and they are raising merits on everything right? so you guys will actually get more Desperate Blows merits if i read/understood that right! Nope, job specific merits arent boosted. Just stats and magic/combat skills + "others"(enmity/crit merits) darn :/ so i guess "Job Specific" merits arent going to get a boost until 99 when they add new ones... good thing is though, more eva and crit hit merits for me! You still wont be able to get more than 4 eva merits I think, just gonna be able to merit up more things to max lol
.....DARN YOU SE!!!!
XD
guess im meriting H2H for PUP then
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-04-22 13:14:58
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Why do people only think of zerging when they see this? :P
It is all people ever thought about DRK since people started using it to zerg. quoted for truth, it's about time DRK became something other than a Zerg job.
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By Unicorn.Ducea 2011-04-22 13:22:54
easy mode is official now. no xp loss 1-30? does anyone die at that level anyway? 30-75 loss but less is cool but really none for 1-30 come on SE how about tweaking limit breaks, missions etc so things dont still require 3 people or more...
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-04-22 14:08:17
So jishnu's is now absolutely broken?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 14:12:53
Phoenix.Kirana said: So jishnu's is now absolutely broken?
Probably, but has ranger's problem ever really been Damage? I always see their biggest issue as pulling hate so quickly, and, unlike melee jobs, they can't effectively attack in that situation.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 14:13:33
Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Kirana said: So jishnu's is now absolutely broken?
Probably, but has ranger's problem ever really been Damage? I always see their biggest issue as pulling hate so quickly, that, unlike melee jobs, they can't effectively attack in that situation.
npnp, they just use apoc atma for reraise.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 14:14:53
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Kirana said: So jishnu's is now absolutely broken?
Probably, but has ranger's problem ever really been Damage? I always see their biggest issue as pulling hate so quickly, that, unlike melee jobs, they can't effectively attack in that situation.
npnp, they just use apoc atma for reraise.
Ranged attacks get a good, stern *** after death 2 though, don't they?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 14:16:29
Odin.Zicdeh said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Kirana said: So jishnu's is now absolutely broken?
Probably, but has ranger's problem ever really been Damage? I always see their biggest issue as pulling hate so quickly, that, unlike melee jobs, they can't effectively attack in that situation.
npnp, they just use apoc atma for reraise.
Ranged attacks get a good, stern *** after death 2 though, don't they?
lol idk, wasnt really serious :<
Probably :P
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 14:17:23
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Kirana said: So jishnu's is now absolutely broken?
Probably, but has ranger's problem ever really been Damage? I always see their biggest issue as pulling hate so quickly, that, unlike melee jobs, they can't effectively attack in that situation.
npnp, they just use apoc atma for reraise.
Ranged attacks get a good, stern *** after death 2 though, don't they?
lol idk, wasnt really serious :<
Probably :P
Well, I know before, they didn't which made your point valid. That was actually one of their strengths. Die, get right back up and shoot a *** in the dome.
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By Fenrir.Mefuki 2011-04-22 14:25:01
Well, I may be in the minority but I think it's really good to see VIT being given an additional purpose. It's a teribly neglected stat. The only one worse off in my opinion is CHR.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-04-22 14:49:36
Phoenix.Fredjan said: so uh
would this be the best tp setup for DRK?
25% haste, 6-hit. <.<
edit: this is with current gear.
Haven't read all the replies to this post yet, but, no, that is not the "best" TP set-up for DRK, unless you're fighting low-evasion targets, or have heavy Accuracy buffs on you (from atma, Madrigals, Hasso, etc.).
Remember, DRK Great Sword skill is "A-", not "A+".
That doesn't mean don't use a Great Sword. It just means you have to account for melee Accuracy. The itemset you posted here has net Accuracy-4 and total DEX+1. The +5 skill on the AF3+2 gloves helps somewhat, but using Zelus Tiara, Hoard Ring, Almah Torque, and Askar Korazin seems wasteful.
You could instead aim for this type of gear:
which could be used with any Great Sword with a base delay of 444 to 456 to yield a 7-hit build as DRK/SAM. You'll still have +25% Haste, but significantly higher melee Accuracy (and Attack), without being dependent on Madrigal or Hasso, etc.
A six-hit build is a nice idea, but it's more practical when using a Scythe, or as a WAR/SAM. So unless you're fighting weak (or unusually low evasion, or Feint-debuffed) targets, an accurate 7-hit build is most likely better than gimping yourself to max-out on Store-TP equipment.
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They've posted something on the forum but I can't access it at work. Someone help a firewall blocked ffxi addict?
Source
Cerberus.Savannah said: Quote: [dev1010] Job Adjustments
• The forthcoming version update is scheduled to feature the following job adjustments:
• Dark Knight:
-The effect duration of the job ability Last Resort will be increased from 30 to 180 seconds.
• Ranger:
-The recast time of the job ability Bounty Shot will be reduced from 5 minutes to 1 minute, and a successful hit will occasionally enhance the effect of Treasure Hunter.
-The job ability Barrage will launch an additional projectile at level 90.
-Accuracy calculations for Barrage will be eased in proportion to the maximum number of shots.
• Puppetmaster:
The following automaton attachments will be added:
Name Description
Heat Capacitor (A fire-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Erases all Fire Maneuver effects to restore TP.
Power Cooler (An ice-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Reduces MP cost in proportion to the number of Ice Maneuvers in effect.
Barrage Turbine (A wind-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Erases all Wind Maneuver effects to occasionally grant a Barrage effect.
Galvanizer (A lightning-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Increases chance of countering in proportion to the number of Thunder Maneuvers in effect.
• The following weapon skills will be added for the Valoredge and Sharpshot frames:
Skill Name - Frame - Effect
String Shredder - Valoredge - Delivers a twofold attack.
Critical hit rate varies with TP.
Armor Shatterer - Sharpshot - Delivers a fourfold attack.
Additional effect: Weakens defense
Additional effect duration varies with TP.
• Job Traits
• The following job traits will be added:
Job Trait Level Obtained* Effect
Tranquil Heart: WHM Lv.21/RDM Lv.26/SCH Lv.30 - Reduces enmity gain when casting healing magic.
Stalwart Soul: DRK Lv.45 - Reduces HP consumption when using Souleater.
Dead Aim: RNG Lv.50 - Improves power of critical hits for ranged attacks.
*The level indicated is that at which the trait will initially be obtained. Trait effectiveness will subsequently increase at higher levels.
• Certain job traits will see their maximum level of effectiveness adjusted by equipment, magic, and/or job abilities.
Other Adjustments
• VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits.
• Experience point penalties when KO’d will be eased for characters level 75 and below.
At levels 1–30, the penalty will be removed entirely. At levels 31–75, the amount of XP lost will be lowered
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