Mattress Firm Refuses To Sell To Muslim Woman

one mans respect is anothers disrespect.

I didn't want to touch this thread but wasn't sure if anyone had mentioned this, I have not read the middle posts so am possibly reiterating what has already been mentioned. I have no complaint in women choosing to wear a burqa. However it is in no way mandatory & as such can often be misinterpreted as representing anti-west sentiments from either the wearer, or perhaps in some cases the person forcing her to wear it. There are many other items of religious clothing they could chose to wear that would not cause this issue such as the hijab. To my knowledge there is nothing stipulating hands/face should be covered anyway.There was an article about this on the BBC around the time the French were defining laws about it. This however is irrelevant to the point of refusing service to someone covering there face. When you remove all the religious hype about this topic, it is exactly the same fundamentally as walking into a shop wearing a balaclava, full face motorcycle helmet or even a 'hoody'. Whether you agree with it or not, this poses security problems. Most noticeable being the inability to identify said customer on CCTV cameras in the event of a robbery. I for one have worked in a convenience store where it is mandatory to ask the customer to remove any face coverings (admittedly where I live this is almost only bike helmets) for the sake of security, and not to open the cash register if they refuse. The Halifax next door was robbed by exactly this method (motor cycle helmet). Now in no way am I a saying a Muslim woman is more or less likely to commit a crime due to there religious beliefs, to make such a statement would be somewhat ignorant and unfounded (unless someone can point me in the direction of the crime figures lol). But the refusal to serve somebody covering their face seems an entirely logical and in no way religiously charged countermeasure to preventing "over the counter" thefts. While Muslims do not drink, I have met a few who smoke, so what if a woman in a burqa were to ask for cigarettes? how would you ID them? They should be treated entirely equal to everyone else, this means showing identifiable features when shopping like everyone else. Whatever country I chose to visit or move to, I will respect the laws of the country regardless of any beliefs I may personally adhere to (I don't). Logic and reasoning should always supersede religion as far as law is concerned.

Only an optimist would say that!
I say a lot of things.
And i float around between many different states of mind being the balanced unbalanced individual that I am.
It could be taken as pessimistic but I dunno.
should i have just said different strokes for different folks again to please everyone?
or do i even need to please everyone, or am I allowed to be pessimistic?

I didn't want to touch this thread but wasn't sure if anyone had mentioned this, I have not read the middle posts so am possibly reiterating what has already been mentioned. I have no complaint in women choosing to wear a burqa. However it is in no way mandatory & as such can often be misinterpreted as representing anti-west sentiments from either the wearer, or perhaps in some cases the person forcing her to wear it. There are many other items of religious clothing they could chose to wear that would not cause this issue such as the hijab. To my knowledge there is nothing stipulating hands/face should be covered anyway.There was an article about this on the BBC around the time the French were defining laws about it. This however is irrelevant to the point of refusing service to someone covering there face. When you remove all the religious hype about this topic, it is exactly the same fundamentally as walking into a shop wearing a balaclava, full face motorcycle helmet or even a 'hoody'. Whether you agree with it or not, this poses security problems. Most noticeable being the inability to identify said customer on CCTV cameras in the event of a robbery. I for one have worked in a convenience store where it is mandatory to ask the customer to remove any face coverings (admittedly where I live this is almost only bike helmets) for the sake of security, and not to open the cash register if they refuse. The Halifax next door was robbed by exactly this method (motor cycle helmet). Now in no way am I a saying a Muslim woman is more or less likely to commit a crime due to there religious beliefs, to make such a statement would be somewhat ignorant and unfounded (unless someone can point me in the direction of the crime figures lol). But the refusal to serve somebody covering their face seems an entirely logical and in no way religiously charged countermeasure to preventing "over the counter" thefts. While Muslims do not drink, I have met a few who smoke, so what if a woman in a burqa were to ask for cigarettes? how would you ID them? They should be treated entirely equal to everyone else, this means showing identifiable features when shopping like everyone else. Whatever country I chose to visit or move to, I will respect the laws of the country regardless of any beliefs I may personally adhere to (I don't). Logic and reasoning should always supersede religion as far as law is concerned.