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 Lakshmi.Emanuelle
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-04-12 10:38:30  
Just wanted to post a video of my melee bard, just giving an idea to all the bards that hate the job because it's boring, you can add a lil fun with haste gear twilight dagger and rr/vv apoc atmas and stuff^^, the dps is really nice, i didn't have eviseration on this video, but i pop 2.5/3k evis on my brd now


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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-04-12 10:43:27  
Domaruuuuu, why are your mobs dying so slowly?

Nice dd brd though.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-04-12 10:48:36  
Sylph.Krsone said:
why are your mobs dying so slowly?
A BRD is tanking. This is obviously a pro exp alliance.
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By Gilgamesh.Hatfield 2011-04-12 10:57:42  
been a while since i seen someone tp in wyvern helm lol
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By Bimbam 2011-04-12 11:01:03  
I melee'd on bard for most of 1-75 pre aby (between pulling) just to make it more interesting. Even if I only got off a couple attack rounds before needing to grab the next couple mobs I would still add a couple % extra to the party overall.

Those were the days it made a difference though, why aren't you afk/asleep like everyone else in abyssea?
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By Asura.Xlide 2011-04-12 11:07:01  
Gilgamesh.Hatfield said:
been a while since i seen someone tp in wyvern helm lol
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By Siren.Bruno 2011-04-12 11:17:58  
Nice. Capped Haste?

Thought this thread might need this
Pro outside-Abyssea action



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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-04-12 11:50:12  
Bruno is living proof that BRD doesn't have to be a boring job at all.

Dear Brudawg,

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By BruHouse 2011-04-12 11:54:05  
ily Kuni
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By Siren.Eremes 2011-04-12 11:56:54  
I would love to see SE boost BRD's combat skills to be closer to PUP and RDM. I mean, really, I don't think Paeon and Burning Blade are going to break anything.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-04-12 11:59:14  
Awesome bard, but there's so much wrong going on in the rest of the video that I keep getting distracted.
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By BruHouse 2011-04-12 12:19:29  
Siren.Eremes said:
I would love to see SE boost BRD's combat skills to be closer to PUP and RDM. I mean, really, I don't think Paeon and Burning Blade are going to break anything.

PUP has a B+ in H2H
RDM has a B in Sword and Dagger
BRD has a B- in Dagger

BRD can use alotta stuff no one would think why BRD would or could use it(such as Hecatomb, Atheling Mantle, Haidate, even Empyrean/Relic daggers XD). Very nice available DD gear makes up for the small combat skill difference. From what I've seen though, PUP doesn't have much gear available to it that you would think would be.
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By Fenrir.Vazerus 2011-04-12 12:52:10  
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
Just wanted to post a video of my melee bard, just giving an idea to all the bards that hate the job because it's boring, you can add a lil fun with haste gear twilight dagger and rr/vv apoc atmas and stuff^^, the dps is really nice, i didn't have eviseration on this video, but i pop 2.5/3k evis on my brd now
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-04-12 13:03:45  
brd is b- on dagger, but it will jump to A category with dagger merits, those buffalos are very easy now and quick kill with eviseration, the tp gain is insane with twilight knife
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-04-12 13:05:10  
I still need a twilight knife. Mab, get me one damn it.
 
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-04-12 13:17:57  
We should put together a shout group and have someone else use a brew. It's what all the cool kids are doing in Jeuno.
 
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By Sylph.Tibze 2011-04-12 14:52:45  
Back when the cap was 75 I enjoyed melee'ing as Brd/Nin and even so in parties if there was another willing puller (my 1st love was and always will be pulling/crowd control, my 2nd love was proving that Brd could actually DD decently). Calibri xp parties was the way I finally got dagger skill capped. I actually got pretty good at DD'ing and still managing front line buffs & ballads.

Almost makes me want activate my account & start playing again but then I'm seeing comments about how Bard isn't the popular pick for parties like it used to be. =(
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-05-03 13:46:09  
Question:

I am almost done building a serious battle bard but I am not sure which daggers would be the best combo

Main hand is going to be Daka+2 or Twashtar depending on which I feel like doing at the crossroads. For the offhand I am thinking one of these:





The first option would have a very nice DoT, but the DA from the second would apply to both daggers as well as weaponskills.

My gut reaction is telling me that either of these would be better then twilight knife, but I am really not sure.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be much appreciated.
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By Diabolos.Inuyushi 2011-05-04 08:18:23  
Question to Bruno and all other brds about Scherzo. How does the damage reduction work with that? I saw 1,000 Needles go off once and 340 points of damage was reduced (660 dmg was dealt) making it a 33% reduction in damage. If 10,000 needles was to go off would it still only negate 33% of the damage meaning it would deal 6,600 point of dmg?

Thanks!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-04 08:41:33  
Diabolos.Inuyushi said:
Question to Bruno and all other brds about Scherzo. How does the damage reduction work with that? I saw 1,000 Needles go off once and 340 points of damage was reduced (660 dmg was dealt) making it a 33% reduction in damage. If 10,000 needles was to go off would it still only negate 33% of the damage meaning it would deal 6,600 point of dmg?

Thanks!

If an ability or spell would deal more than 75% of your max HP then Scherzo will kick in and negate a portion of it. The amount negated is based on combined singing and whatever instrument skill.

The BRD+2 feet will tick off a little bit more again.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-04 08:46:18  
But yeah 34% is the limit currently with AF3+2 feet.
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By Diabolos.Inuyushi 2011-05-04 08:50:39  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
But yeah 34% is the limit currently with AF3+2 feet.

So say 10,000 needles goes off and you have Scherzo on...how much dmg would be dealt?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-04 08:55:07  
Diabolos.Inuyushi said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
But yeah 34% is the limit currently with AF3+2 feet.

So say 10,000 needles goes off and you have Scherzo on...how much dmg would be dealt?

34% of 10,000 so... 3400 would be blocked meaning you'd take 6600 damage.
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By Diabolos.Inuyushi 2011-05-04 08:56:39  
Thanks
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By Creecreelo 2011-05-06 00:36:08  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
But yeah 34% is the limit currently with AF3+2 feet.

This is not true actually. :o

Raised an eyebrow when I read this, since I didn't actually know what Scherzo's cap was, but I felt like it was more than 34%.

Finally got around to do some informal testing with 1000 Needles. Combined skill was 742 (388 Singing/354 String, tested with Daurdabla since I lax Gjallar D:) Wasn't max skill gear, sadly don't have a second skill earring and Astute Cape (Have Erato's in place though); however, this wouldn't have broken a new tier though for me if one exists. Had Scherzo +1 from AF3+2 feeties as well.

Made sure I wasn't wearing any PDT gear and 1000 Needles' dmg was reduced to 600, which seemed to scale correctly with Kirschy's testing numbers on BG.

Anyways, on Kirschy's OP about Scherzo, 666 skill with Gjallarhorn's extra Scherzo +2 resulted in a 33% decrease in dmg. So 660 skill = 31% decrease in dmg taken.

For my tests 742 skill with Scherzo +1 resulted in a 40% decrease. So 740~ skill resulted in a 39% decrease in dmg taken. (Tested w/o AF3+2 feet just to make sure too.)

Here's the thread anyways on BG:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/99406-Sentinel-s-Scherzo-effect-on-Physical-Damage

Hopefully I haven't missed anything on the forums about a true hard cap yet! >.< Don't think I've read much recent testing on Scherzo though, would be interesting to see if someone would test with a lvl 90 Gjallarhorn and capped skill. If I had to guess, I'd bet that a 50% decrease will/would be the hard cap for Scherzo.

NINJA EDIT: Lies! I feel like the cap will be 50% Base off from skill and then any Scherzo+ gear from Gjallar/AF3 Feet will make it like 54% or more, depending on the final product of our gear at lvl 99.

Can't wait to merit String in the next update! lol
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-03-11 09:22:21  
Ragnarok.Akuji said: »
Question:

I am almost done building a serious battle bard but I am not sure which daggers would be the best combo

Main hand is going to be Daka+2 or Twashtar depending on which I feel like doing at the crossroads. For the offhand I am thinking one of these:





The first option would have a very nice DoT, but the DA from the second would apply to both daggers as well as weaponskills.

My gut reaction is telling me that either of these would be better then twilight knife, but I am really not sure.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be much appreciated.
That I can see nobody answered this question, and I would like to know the answer. Melee bard is something I might try out a bit in the future as well.
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