Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
Insulin is a strange thing. To much can make you a diabetic.
Wat. Source please.
Fitness And Nutrition General
Fitness and Nutrition general
Wat. Source please.
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Starting tomorrow,minimizing weights and hitting cardio hard. Gonna change the diet as well,not looking forward to <1k calories and eating vegetables/nuts
http://www.forksoverknives.com this just about sums up all you need to know about nutrition. Also will make it quite clear why the western diet is pretty much asking for disease and sickness.
Lakshmi.Yaggi said: »
http://www.forksoverknives.com this just about sums up all you need to know about nutrition. Also will make it quite clear why the western diet is pretty much asking for disease and sickness.
2 terms can sum up modern eating (re:not diet) and why it's terrible.
Processed Foods
&
Synthetic Foods
Lakshmi.Yaggi said: »
http://www.forksoverknives.com this just about sums up all you need to know about nutrition. Also will make it quite clear why the western diet is pretty much asking for disease and sickness.
This promoted diet basically the diet the book "The China Study" suggests. After 20 years of diet research in China, they basically determined the most common American diseases (Heart disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes, etc) are cause by diet, primarily by animal products & synthetic foods.
The China Study
Quiznor said: »
Lakshmi.Yaggi said: »
http://www.forksoverknives.com this just about sums up all you need to know about nutrition. Also will make it quite clear why the western diet is pretty much asking for disease and sickness.
2 terms can sum up modern eating (re:not diet) and why it's terrible.
Processed Foods
&
Synthetic Foods
what does that have to do with the link i posted, go watch it before you try to correct someone with nothing to base your claim on. reply to the OP with that piss.
If you wanna be constructive that's good, if you're gonna spend time correcting someone else, get your ***straight first before you do. Also, what you said is redundant to my post, which you clearly didn't click the link or watch the documentary. Or you must be a higher authority on nutrition and eating habits than these doctors and phD's who compiled this information over the course of 20 years.
Lakshmi.Yaggi said: »
Quiznor said: »
Lakshmi.Yaggi said: »
http://www.forksoverknives.com this just about sums up all you need to know about nutrition. Also will make it quite clear why the western diet is pretty much asking for disease and sickness.
2 terms can sum up modern eating (re:not diet) and why it's terrible.
Processed Foods
&
Synthetic Foods
what does that have to do with the link i posted, go watch it before you try to correct someone with nothing to base your claim on. reply to the OP with that piss.
If you wanna be constructive that's good, if you're gonna spend time correcting someone else, get your ***straight first before you do. Also, what you said is redundant to my post, which you clearly didn't click the link or watch the documentary. Or you must be a higher authority on nutrition and eating habits than these doctors and phD's who compiled this information over the course of 20 years.
Go *** yourself
(since we're playing the assumption game up in here!)
I wasnt correcting you or arguing with whatever link you posted and their "facts" (which I didnt click and have no intention of).
It doesnt change the fact where processed and synthetic foods sit right now and what they have done over the past 40 years to the human body
Lakshmi.Yaggi said: »
Quiznor said: »
Lakshmi.Yaggi said: »
http://www.forksoverknives.com this just about sums up all you need to know about nutrition. Also will make it quite clear why the western diet is pretty much asking for disease and sickness.
2 terms can sum up modern eating (re:not diet) and why it's terrible.
Processed Foods
&
Synthetic Foods
what does that have to do with the link i posted, go watch it before you try to correct someone with nothing to base your claim on. reply to the OP with that piss.
If you wanna be constructive that's good, if you're gonna spend time correcting someone else, get your ***straight first before you do. Also, what you said is redundant to my post, which you clearly didn't click the link or watch the documentary. Or you must be a higher authority on nutrition and eating habits than these doctors and phD's who compiled this information over the course of 20 years.
This is a thread on Fitness & Nutrition, keep your *** vegan propaganda out of it you pretentious cliché snob. Vegan diets are for 100 pound betas, have fun with that.
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Come home to this while I'm afk lmao, vegans are the best. So moody due to lack of proper nutrients and testosterone levels.
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Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
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high levels of insulin in your bloodstream, called hyperinsulinemia, can lead to a number of serious health problems, including diabetes and heart disease.
Quiznor said: »
It doesnt change the fact where processed and synthetic foods sit right now and what they have done over the past 40 years to the human body
Slug and Ath. It is a former IFBB I know. I would never intently mis- inform anyone. Why is it the smallest dogs seem to bark the most.
Yeah it's madness. It wasnt a blanket statement,I shoulda said that. But when you look at the 2 groups overall,you can see it in general vs the alternative.
My grandfather is diabetic and his diabetic versions of alot of his food (mostly snacks,but some proper foods too) are nearly triple the price.
My friend's girlfriend cant eat gluten and the foods she has to buy are 2 or 3 times more expensive than normal,for less ingredients AND taste like *** (her words) just so she doesnt have an adverse reaction. Her local pizza hut hates her because they offer gluten free pizza dough as an option,and takes nearly 3 times as long to make for whatever reason.
My grandfather is diabetic and his diabetic versions of alot of his food (mostly snacks,but some proper foods too) are nearly triple the price.
My friend's girlfriend cant eat gluten and the foods she has to buy are 2 or 3 times more expensive than normal,for less ingredients AND taste like *** (her words) just so she doesnt have an adverse reaction. Her local pizza hut hates her because they offer gluten free pizza dough as an option,and takes nearly 3 times as long to make for whatever reason.
Quiznor said: »
Yeah it's madness. It wasnt a blanket statement,I shoulda said that. But when you look at the 2 groups overall,you can see it in general vs the alternative.
My grandfather is diabetic and his diabetic versions of alot of his food (mostly snacks,but some proper foods too) are nearly triple the price.
My friend's girlfriend cant eat gluten and the foods she has to buy are 2 or 3 times more expensive than normal,for less ingredients AND taste like *** (her words) just so she doesnt have an adverse reaction. Her local pizza hut hates her because they offer gluten free pizza dough as an option,and takes nearly 3 times as long to make for whatever reason.
My grandfather is diabetic and his diabetic versions of alot of his food (mostly snacks,but some proper foods too) are nearly triple the price.
My friend's girlfriend cant eat gluten and the foods she has to buy are 2 or 3 times more expensive than normal,for less ingredients AND taste like *** (her words) just so she doesnt have an adverse reaction. Her local pizza hut hates her because they offer gluten free pizza dough as an option,and takes nearly 3 times as long to make for whatever reason.
The worst is trans-fat, it's just sooo bad for you and it's in EVERYTHING at the grocery store. The only affordable option is really Trader Joes, and they don't carry everything you need when shopping. So I usually have to make an extra trip to Ralphs to get the random stuff.
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Quiznor said: »
Yeah it's madness. It wasnt a blanket statement,I shoulda said that. But when you look at the 2 groups overall,you can see it in general vs the alternative.
My grandfather is diabetic and his diabetic versions of alot of his food (mostly snacks,but some proper foods too) are nearly triple the price.
My friend's girlfriend cant eat gluten and the foods she has to buy are 2 or 3 times more expensive than normal,for less ingredients AND taste like *** (her words) just so she doesnt have an adverse reaction. Her local pizza hut hates her because they offer gluten free pizza dough as an option,and takes nearly 3 times as long to make for whatever reason.
My grandfather is diabetic and his diabetic versions of alot of his food (mostly snacks,but some proper foods too) are nearly triple the price.
My friend's girlfriend cant eat gluten and the foods she has to buy are 2 or 3 times more expensive than normal,for less ingredients AND taste like *** (her words) just so she doesnt have an adverse reaction. Her local pizza hut hates her because they offer gluten free pizza dough as an option,and takes nearly 3 times as long to make for whatever reason.
The worst is trans-fat, it's just sooo bad for you and it's in EVERYTHING at the grocery store. The only affordable option is really Trader Joes, and they don't carry everything you need when shopping. So I usually have to make an extra trip to Ralphs to get the random stuff.
I'll assume they're some sort of supermarkets? (I'm not american after all)
Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
Slug and Ath. It is a former IFBB I know. I would never intently mis- inform anyone. Why is it the smallest dogs seem to bark the most.
And I assume your former IFBB is rocking an M.D.? I don't see that sloppily passing on bad information is any better than intentionally misleading someone.
Reading someone's size over the internet is a pretty cool trick, you'll have to teach me that sometime.
Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
And I assume your former IFBB is rocking an M.D.? I don't see that sloppily passing on bad information is any better than intentionally misleading someone.
How is he posting bad info? I just posted a link about too much insulin the blood stream. The way too much insulin, particularly synthetic since you are essentially adding more insulin to the bloodstream, can result in diabetes is the cells develop insulin resistance.
Also you don't need an M.D. to know about insulin production and uptake. Any physiology class high school or undergraduate will tell you that...
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
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high levels of insulin in your bloodstream, called hyperinsulinemia, can lead to a number of serious health problems, including diabetes and heart disease.
We're talking about a different phenomena. For reasons the medical community doesn't fully understand, through consumption of sugar/simple carbs which spike insulin, inactivity, and obesity, it's possible to trigger a rise in basal insulin levels which leads to eventual insulin desensitization. This is very well documented, and something I wouldn't challenge.
We're referring to synthetic insulin in the amounts/doses that a bodybuilder would use to assist in creating a state of anabolism. I understand the principle, but claiming that spike doses of synthetic insulin would do the same thing reeks of (yay, I get to say it!) Broscience.
Its the phone bro. And yeah you are. Condesending people always seem to be trying to make up for some lack in there personage. He does not have. MD. But he did do various things over the years and paid the price.
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
And I assume your former IFBB is rocking an M.D.? I don't see that sloppily passing on bad information is any better than intentionally misleading someone.
How is he posting bad info? I just posted a link about too much insulin the blood stream. The way too much insulin, particularly synthetic since you are essentially adding more insulin to the bloodstream, can result in diabetes is the cells develop insulin resistance.
Also you don't need an M.D. to know about insulin production and uptake. Any physiology class high school or undergraduate will tell you that...
see below
Bismarck.Bloodbathboy said: »
Its the phone bro. And yeah you are. Condesending people always seem to be trying to make up for some lack in there personage. He does not have. MD. But he did do various things over the years and paid the price.
If 207 at 5'4 is small, then guilty as charged. Asking people to back up claims with sources is good science, not condescension. If you think a respect for the truth is condescending, you must really hate snopes/mythbusters/etc.
I was only thinking of at pertains to BB world. And that is doses of synthetic. If I was not clear. I am sorry to all. My apologies to Slug and Ath.
I know what you are referring to, and it's essentially the same process. Excessive amounts of insulin the blood stream whether it be caused by an abnormal pancreas or via injection are going to cause insulin resistance, which can lead to diabetes.
However, it's a grey area because then you get into factors like hereditary etc.
EDIT: Broscience aka physiology is just jacked up. Have you seen wiki? lol I'm not a huge fan of saying X + Y = Z simply because ONE laboratory was able to produce such a result. Whether it be metabolis
However, it's a grey area because then you get into factors like hereditary etc.
EDIT: Broscience aka physiology is just jacked up. Have you seen wiki? lol I'm not a huge fan of saying X + Y = Z simply because ONE laboratory was able to produce such a result. Whether it be metabolis
5'4 and 207? Pics or bodyspace?
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
I know what you are referring to, and it's essentially the same process. Excessive amounts of insulin the blood stream whether it be caused by an abnormal pancreas or via injection are going to cause insulin resistance, which can lead to diabetes.
However, it's a grey area because then you get into factors like hereditary etc.
However, it's a grey area because then you get into factors like hereditary etc.
On my floor, I see a few of my patients (not the majority) beat diabetes, losing their insulin resistance through diet and exercise.
These patients, almost to a man/woman are on a basal dose of Lantus, with a 3/4x daily dose of regular insulin based on a fingerstick blood sugar, or they are on an insulin pump, one or the other.
If doses of synthetic insulin caused any appreciable amount of insulin resistance, it would be virtually impossible to get rid of type 2 diabetes once you had it, due to the constant Lantus hanging around in your body. This is not the case, I assure you.
Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
If doses of synthetic insulin caused any appreciable amount of insulin resistance, it would be virtually impossible to get rid of type 2 diabetes once you had it, due to the constant Lantus hanging around in your body. This is not the case, I assure you.
We're comparing different levels of insulin over a period of time, but I do see your point.
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