Mnk Or Nin??
Mnk or nin??
I've just recently came back to the game, and I'm severely interested in playing a solo, yet tankable job. Which of the two is cheaper on nin tools, deals better damage, has more use in the occasional party, and what do you consider better between smite and hi? (Considering doing the woe versions.) Thanks for the help :).
I'd probally go NIN/DNC for "Super 1337 solo job" but it will take you a while to actually kill the mob, and it puts a drain on your bank with the useage of tools.
Given, in Abyssea with the right atmas, any job can solo fairly well.
Given, in Abyssea with the right atmas, any job can solo fairly well.
Smite does more damage, NIN is better for solo, MNK is cheaper, it depends on preference.
NIN has among the best utility in abyssea. If you plan to be there a lot ninja is a good main job. You have the ability to proc red with more then 5 weapons, pair with a war can proc red everytime
MNK is just pure damage and tanking ability, can proc minimal red trigs.
Victory smite is indeed an impressive weaponskill. not sure how it stacks up to blade hi, but my numbers are anywhere from 1k-7k.
MNK is just pure damage and tanking ability, can proc minimal red trigs.
Victory smite is indeed an impressive weaponskill. not sure how it stacks up to blade hi, but my numbers are anywhere from 1k-7k.
Bismarck.Luftig said:
NIN has among the best utility in abyssea. If you plan to be there a lot ninja is a good main job. You have the ability to proc red with more then 5 weapons, pair with a war can proc red everytime MNK is just pure damage and tanking ability, can proc minimal red trigs. Victory smite is indeed an impressive weaponskill. not sure how it stacks up to blade hi, but my numbers are anywhere from 1k-7k.
Anyways, if I had a white mage slave, which one would would be better for duoing for her gear? And how do I get the profile thingy to see my levels and stuff?
You forget to mention that MNK and WHM can proc blue on anything, as well as pretty much being able to kill anything.
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
You forget to mention that MNK and WHM can proc blue on anything, as well as pretty much being able to kill anything.
What gear are you looking for? Seals? Coins? MNK/WHM are good for the material things. But for +1 and +2 items you are almost always going to want a 3rd(BLM).
You need to sign up for a profile on FFXI linkshell beta community site and link that character to your FFXIAH page.
I have two Real Life friends, one is mnk main and other is whm. The amount of stuff the two of them can duo down is pretty crazy. Sometimes I go out to help as a blm mainly for yellow proc. A well geared mnk paired with a decently geared/skilled whm is a powerful combination in Abyssea. Nin can also be pretty useful. I think it really comes down to the player. The big advantage monk has over nin is the much larger hp pool. Mnk can take some big hits without getting 1-shot.
Ragnarok.Lagunabel said:
mnk is trash
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
What gear are you looking for? Seals? Coins? MNK/WHM are good for the material things. But for +1 and +2 items you are almost always going to want a 3rd(BLM).
Then with actual gear, go for MNK. Level up Staff and Club, do your WSNM's, and you are set.
Level pup, guard like a mnk, parry like a nin, use hand-to-hand like a mnk, and evade like a nin! Obviously pup is better than either of them!
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I have and use both and i'm on nin by far most of the time.
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Kikorimo said:
I have two Real Life friends, one is mnk main and other is whm. The amount of stuff the two of them can duo down is pretty crazy. Sometimes I go out to help as a blm mainly for yellow proc. A well geared mnk paired with a decently geared/skilled whm is a powerful combination in Abyssea. Nin can also be pretty useful. I think it really comes down to the player. The big advantage monk has over nin is the much larger hp pool. Mnk can take some big hits without getting 1-shot.
Migawari ichi
For the record a decent nin can duo just as much with a whm as a mnk. If not more with the ability to !! red and stun the mob for several seconds. Often used multiple times during a fight when the pt already has the KI/Atma from the nm.
The major downside of nin is the HUGE hole it will burn in your pocket and the inability to !! blue in so many fights.
I think both monk and ninja have very good advantages and disadvantages ..........
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NIN. On MNK you will be waiting till your team has red and yellow and blue. Than hit it 2-3 times and wait again.
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WHM can cover club and staff procs on its own so MNK really isn't adding as much for blue !! as you'd think, especially if deaggroing to reset procs is an option. NIN can at least attempt to proc outside blunt time and also has many red procs if you need KIs.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time, plus with a WHM you don't even need to worry about casting Hojo or Jubaku. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time, plus with a WHM you don't even need to worry about casting Hojo or Jubaku. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
WHM can cover club and staff procs on its own so MNK really isn't adding as much for blue !! as you'd think, especially if deaggroing to reset procs is an option. NIN can at least attempt to proc outside blunt time and also has many red procs if you need KIs.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
I have 5/5 nin tool merits, always use yonin and still burn like 700k a week in tool, but then again I am on nin entirely too much.
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Diabolos.Mesheef said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
WHM can cover club and staff procs on its own so MNK really isn't adding as much for blue !! as you'd think, especially if deaggroing to reset procs is an option. NIN can at least attempt to proc outside blunt time and also has many red procs if you need KIs.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
I have 5/5 nin tool merits, always use yonin and still burn like 700k a week in tool, but then again I am on nin entirely too much.
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Diabolos.Mesheef said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
WHM can cover club and staff procs on its own so MNK really isn't adding as much for blue !! as you'd think, especially if deaggroing to reset procs is an option. NIN can at least attempt to proc outside blunt time and also has many red procs if you need KIs.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
I have 5/5 nin tool merits, always use yonin and still burn like 700k a week in tool, but then again I am on nin entirely too much.
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Maybe does non engage san burning of nms...
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
WHM can cover club and staff procs on its own so MNK really isn't adding as much for blue !! as you'd think, especially if deaggroing to reset procs is an option. NIN can at least attempt to proc outside blunt time and also has many red procs if you need KIs.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time, plus with a WHM you don't even need to worry about casting Hojo or Jubaku. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time, plus with a WHM you don't even need to worry about casting Hojo or Jubaku. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
With WHM you have no h2h, also even with capped club and staff its sometimes a pain to proc on some of the higher, more annoying NM's.
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BorealisV2 said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Diabolos.Mesheef said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
WHM can cover club and staff procs on its own so MNK really isn't adding as much for blue !! as you'd think, especially if deaggroing to reset procs is an option. NIN can at least attempt to proc outside blunt time and also has many red procs if you need KIs.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
I have 5/5 nin tool merits, always use yonin and still burn like 700k a week in tool, but then again I am on nin entirely too much.
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
With WHM you have no h2h, also even with capped club and staff its sometimes a pain to proc on some of the higher, more annoying NM's.
Obvious benefits to both jobs. Besides, op alrdy said looking to mainly gear up his whm for now, so choice would probably be mnk for the time being. Luckily leveling is fast thanks to abyssea, best scenario is lvl both eventually, since they so useful.
Diabolos.Mesheef said:
BorealisV2 said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Diabolos.Mesheef said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
WHM can cover club and staff procs on its own so MNK really isn't adding as much for blue !! as you'd think, especially if deaggroing to reset procs is an option. NIN can at least attempt to proc outside blunt time and also has many red procs if you need KIs. NIN isn't hard on your wallet at all... Ninja Tool Expertise from merits (lolSan nukes), Koga Tekko (what else are you going to put in that slot for debuffs, really?), and potentially Yonin means a stack of any given tool lasts a long damn time. I spend far more gil on food than I do on tools.
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