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By Fenrir.Snick 2011-03-14 17:45:05  
Bahamut.Alukat said:
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babbadz said:
Let's all think about this SE not billing us. I'm pretty sure they want our money so they'll come up with a solution so chill. It's a nature disater. We should be more worried about there nuclear powerplants then this game ATM.
Why? Those power plants don't effect me at all.

I'm not even whining about not being able to play a game I haven't played in 3 months. I just find this statement a bit silly.

the fallout of 3 nuclear powerplants eventually?
Doubt it.
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By Caitsith.Dixon 2011-03-14 17:46:12  
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Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
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By Phoenix.Biggz 2011-03-14 17:46:57  
Fenrir.Snick said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-
Heavens no, Japan is the only place in the world right now that needs money. It's where anime comes from so it must be the most important.
lol people are forgetting that there are way more problems in our home nation to actually care about something that happened miles away.....not saying that I help out organizations in our home nation but if I'm throw some money away I'm going to at least throw it where I can see it.
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By babbadz 2011-03-14 17:48:05  
It is a possible if anything.
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By Fenrir.Wynnia 2011-03-14 17:49:17  
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I wanted to just clarify something... they are looking at a partial meltdown, and for the record. they dont "explode" the reactor rods stay at a certain temp. and they pump cool water in while pumping hot water out. the problem isnt the earthquake, its the Tsunami which dmg the power to the pumps so the hot water is evaporating and no cool water coming in so they're getting hotter. if they get to hot and melt the containment unit around the reactor the radiation gets out. People thinking it blows up like a A-bomb or something is just nuts.

They pump in cool water and steam comes out, not hot water. Water has a hard time existing at double its boiling point. That steam is then converted back into water to continue the cycle.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/03/14/dnt.japan.reactor.explainer.nhk?hpt=C2See%20More

That explains it a little better, plus adds in what happened at the plant.
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By Phoenix.Biggz 2011-03-14 17:50:26  
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
Ohh iono how about the millions of people w/o homes or maybe all the rape ORRRRRRR......if you would like to see it for yourself come to L.A go to Skid row so you can witness for yourself how many people actually need help :) ORRRRRRRRRRRRR we can say *** the people who actually make up our home nation and lets give some other country all our help and money :)
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By Caitsith.Dixon 2011-03-14 17:50:43  
Fenrir.Wynnia said:
Caitsith.Dixon said:
I wanted to just clarify something... they are looking at a partial meltdown, and for the record. they dont "explode" the reactor rods stay at a certain temp. and they pump cool water in while pumping hot water out. the problem isnt the earthquake, its the Tsunami which dmg the power to the pumps so the hot water is evaporating and no cool water coming in so they're getting hotter. if they get to hot and melt the containment unit around the reactor the radiation gets out. People thinking it blows up like a A-bomb or something is just nuts.

They pump in cool water and steam comes out, not hot water. Water has a hard time existing at double its boiling point. That steam is then converted back into water to continue the cycle.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/03/14/dnt.japan.reactor.explainer.nhk?hpt=C2See%20More

That explains it a little better, plus adds in what happened at the plant.

of course. I stand corrected. and kudos on the link.
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By Shiva.Aaralyn 2011-03-14 17:51:35  
Got tired of reading on page two, so sorry if it's already been said, but. Yeah, the servers being down for a month would not be good for the company. Is there much the company can do about it? Probably not. I doubt they will be granted permission to turn the servers back on because people can't stand to go a week or more without playing.

At this point, the only thing I can think of that would get the servers up sooner is moving them to the US. Which is likely a crap ton more complicated than is sounds.

Don't get me wrong, I do wish they could be back up within a week as SE hastily mentioned they would. But at this point, it doesn't look like it.
 
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By Seraph.Gilhaven 2011-03-14 17:52:19  
Sooo....ALL of the FFXI servers are in japan??
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By Fenrir.Snick 2011-03-14 17:53:54  
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
I don't think anyone is really saying "don't donate to Japan relief". It is a worthy cause, but it is really silly everyone should pour their heart out over this (Which is funny, because the extent of this seems to be changing your Facebook status)

I can't think of any disaster in recent memory that has had such a huge "following" like this. And really, the only reason I can think of is because people think Japan is cool.

That's what's bumming me out so much.
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By Ragnarok.Waraurochs 2011-03-14 17:54:47  
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Sooo....ALL of the FFXI servers are in japan??

They are actually spread out across the world, each in a single location possessing a very powerful Kupopower
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By Seraph.Gilhaven 2011-03-14 17:56:50  
Ragnarok.Waraurochs said:
Seraph.Gilhaven said:
Sooo....ALL of the FFXI servers are in japan??

They are actually spread out across the world, each in a single location possessing a very powerful Kupopower

That being the case (bar sarcasm :P) why would the events in japan close ALL the servers?
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By Phoenix.Biggz 2011-03-14 17:57:09  
Ragnarok.Waraurochs said:
Seraph.Gilhaven said:
Sooo....ALL of the FFXI servers are in japan??

They are actually spread out across the world, each in a single location possessing a very powerful Kupopower
Well it seems we all need to get off our *** and look for these damn Mog Tablets lol ill start the search in LA
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By Caitsith.Dixon 2011-03-14 17:57:15  
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
Ohh iono how about the millions of people w/o homes or maybe all the rape ORRRRRRR......if you would like to see it for yourself come to L.A go to Skid row so you can witness for yourself how many people actually need help :) ORRRRRRRRRRRRR we can say *** the people who actually make up our home nation and lets give some other country all our help and money :)


Verywell, I'll take you up on that. our country for the most part run VERY well. going to LA and seeing the people on Skid Row is tragic to say the least. and the Rapes, and the murders, and the thieft and the....
Wait, dont that stuff happen in like every country. the fact of the matter is, we arnt talking about isolated local issues. we are talking about a total disaster. And I mean if your going to completly be like "Help us only" on this, why pay for anything not made in the US then. not saying you HAVE to do anything, but what I am saying is it wouldnt hurt to help.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-03-14 17:59:35  
I'ma quit if this happens. I need to move on!
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-03-14 18:00:13  
Shiva.Aaralyn said:
Got tired of reading on page two, so sorry if it's already been said, but. Yeah, the servers being down for a month would not be good for the company. Is there much the company can do about it? Probably not. I doubt they will be granted permission to turn the servers back on because people can't stand to go a week or more without playing.

At this point, the only thing I can think of that would get the servers up sooner is moving them to the US. Which is likely a crap ton more complicated than is sounds.

Don't get me wrong, I do wish they could be back up within a week as SE hastily mentioned they would. But at this point, it doesn't look like it.

This
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-14 18:03:20  
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
Ohh iono how about the millions of people w/o homes or maybe all the rape ORRRRRRR......if you would like to see it for yourself come to L.A go to Skid row so you can witness for yourself how many people actually need help :) ORRRRRRRRRRRRR we can say *** the people who actually make up our home nation and lets give some other country all our help and money :)

A majority of people here have those problems because it's because of our own kind doing this ***to each other. Or it's their own fault (Gambling money away, crime, drug addiction. etc). All of this is man made and we're supposed to spend money on their mistakes? When nature happens it's much different. It's more important to help people who could starve or die of thirst. If a homeless person is thirsty there is always a source of fresh water nearby.


Japan's problem is a natural disaster. Thousands of people died in a day as opposed to the ***that went down over the course of months/years. The death toll will probably increase, so sorry people give a ***.
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By Phoenix.Biggz 2011-03-14 18:04:23  
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
Ohh iono how about the millions of people w/o homes or maybe all the rape ORRRRRRR......if you would like to see it for yourself come to L.A go to Skid row so you can witness for yourself how many people actually need help :) ORRRRRRRRRRRRR we can say *** the people who actually make up our home nation and lets give some other country all our help and money :)


Verywell, I'll take you up on that. our country for the most part run VERY well. going to LA and seeing the people on Skid Row is tragic to say the least. and the Rapes, and the murders, and the thieft and the....
Wait, dont that stuff happen in like every country. the fact of the matter is, we arnt talking about isolated local issues. we are talking about a total disaster. And I mean if your going to completly be like "Help us only" on this, why pay for anything not made in the US then. not saying you HAVE to do anything, but what I am saying is it wouldnt hurt to help.
Iono lol I think people being raped,murdered,and stolen from is a disaster and these aren't local issues this is happening everywhere in America....Im not gonna go and say *** JAPAN dont send them any money but cmon lol because of the earthquake/tsunami all it did was give them the problems we have already had/still going through
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By Caitsith.Dixon 2011-03-14 18:05:44  
Just wow
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By Valefor.Aureleus 2011-03-14 18:07:31  
We seem to be skirting around the issue of addiction, as addicts tend to do.

I, like many people here if we're honest, play the game quite compulsively. "My name's Aure, and I'm an ffxiaholic..."

A month of enforced cold turkey may be enough to break many people of the habit (unless they're Charlie Sheen, then nothing's going to work). This will significantly harm the player base.

Clearly, restoring a video game is not and should not be the priority of the Japanese government. But SE is a business and will almost certainly react as one. Any decent sized business worth it's salt will have a disaster recovery plan in place. We all know that the customer base isn't growing, so they can't afford for it to shrink; they need to get back up and running as fast as possible.

This means that if they're not thinking of finding servers elsewhere, their investors won't be happy. At least a temporary solution to restore limited service is crucial financially.

So yeah, let's move it all to California, where it'll be perfectly safe from earthquakes. No, wait, what?

In any case, move it somewhere, USA, South Korea, whatever. It's not like they're moving manufacturing machinery, it's just data. geography is irrelevant.

Bring on the cloud...
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By Phoenix.Biggz 2011-03-14 18:07:36  
Fenrir.Skarwind said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
Ohh iono how about the millions of people w/o homes or maybe all the rape ORRRRRRR......if you would like to see it for yourself come to L.A go to Skid row so you can witness for yourself how many people actually need help :) ORRRRRRRRRRRRR we can say *** the people who actually make up our home nation and lets give some other country all our help and money :)

A majority of people here have those problems because it's because of our own kind doing this ***to each other. Or it's their own fault (Gambling money away, crime, drug addiction. etc). All of this is man made and we're supposed to spend money on their mistakes? When nature happens it's much different. It's more important to help people who could starve or die of thirst. If a homeless person is thirsty there is always a source of fresh water nearby.


Japan's problem is a natural disaster. Thousands of people died in a day as opposed to the ***that went down over the course of months/years. The death toll will probably increase, so sorry people give a ***.
lmfaooo not everyone lives in a good neighborhood where there local bums can go drink some fresh "Smart" water from a fountain lol
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-14 18:11:17  

This logic is fail.

Imagine all of what happened in Japan happened to you for one god damn minute. It starts with an, Earthquake, then the Tsunami, then the reactors having problems. Then you find out a volcano starts spewing ash and lava.

At the moment you feel like it's the god damn end of the world as you know it. Gas is rationed to only 11 ounces per person. Food and Water are getting scarce. Whole coastal cities have sunk under water because the ground itself has sunk. While other cities have been washed away including schools full of children. Population 72,000 and suddenly the town is in ruins and empty, no survivors anywhere.
All of the water is full of debris, ***, oil, whatever the *** is in that black sludgy mess. Any water we have here even in a wishing fountain suddenly would quench your thirst.

To sum things up. STFU


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By Fenrir.Wynnia 2011-03-14 18:11:32  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Ragnarok.Waraurochs said:
Seraph.Gilhaven said:
Sooo....ALL of the FFXI servers are in japan??
They are actually spread out across the world, each in a single location possessing a very powerful Kupopower
They're at the end of a double-rainbow actually.

It's starting to look like a triple rainbow.

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By Shiva.Alaskanassassin 2011-03-14 18:14:04  
I think what happened in Japan is horrible and we should help with what we can but we also need to take care of our own people and take care of the problems we have in the U.S before we start taking care of the world. The U.S is running out of money as it is from the war over seas and the they are suppose to be cutting all military pay for the next month to try and get back on track. Like I said I'm all for helping other people but when it gets to the point where we are suffering I think we should step back and take care of our people.
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By Gilgamesh.Ravenlokk 2011-03-14 18:14:26  
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Fenrir.Skarwind said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
Ohh iono how about the millions of people w/o homes or maybe all the rape ORRRRRRR......if you would like to see it for yourself come to L.A go to Skid row so you can witness for yourself how many people actually need help :) ORRRRRRRRRRRRR we can say *** the people who actually make up our home nation and lets give some other country all our help and money :)

A majority of people here have those problems because it's because of our own kind doing this ***to each other. Or it's their own fault (Gambling money away, crime, drug addiction. etc). All of this is man made and we're supposed to spend money on their mistakes? When nature happens it's much different. It's more important to help people who could starve or die of thirst. If a homeless person is thirsty there is always a source of fresh water nearby.


Japan's problem is a natural disaster. Thousands of people died in a day as opposed to the ***that went down over the course of months/years. The death toll will probably increase, so sorry people give a ***.
lmfaooo not everyone lives in a good neighborhood where there local bums can go drink some fresh "Smart" water from a fountain lol

Biggz is making a very good point, there clearly is a significant issue in America- the plague of ignorance and lack of compassion and understanding in its youth. I think that is rather apparent and well demonstrated by Biggz himself. Clearly living in a "bad" neighborhood and having a strong understanding of "street" life he finds it best to berate people trying to address a pressing world issue then to get off his computer and help the people he deems needy in his own neighborhood.

Attitudes like this are a much more pressing issue for our future then any amount of homelessness and poverty- people nowadays expect to get everything without doing anything themselves... That attitude only perpetuates the cycle of hopelessness and failure.

Any amount of positivity and helping others is good for the greater good whether it be in your back yard or on the other side of the world. Spending energy to attack people who want to or feel the need to help others is a complete waste and you should be ashamed of yourself.
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By Caitsith.Dixon 2011-03-14 18:17:50  
Gilgamesh.Ravenlokk said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Fenrir.Skarwind said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Caitsith.Dixon said:
Phoenix.Biggz said:
Bahamut.Alukat said:
the complaining kids should join help organisations and help the ppl there instead of complaining the whole day about server down or that they should move the server.
anyone had the idea to spend the money for the free month or 2 to a help organisation yet?
this would be a good use for the money.
Why not just use that money to help the millions of problems happening in America/there own community -___-


and what problem do we have in "our" country that can compare? During 911, the Japanese offered there military to us, your saying they should have just said screw em?. thats a hella selfish comment.
Ohh iono how about the millions of people w/o homes or maybe all the rape ORRRRRRR......if you would like to see it for yourself come to L.A go to Skid row so you can witness for yourself how many people actually need help :) ORRRRRRRRRRRRR we can say *** the people who actually make up our home nation and lets give some other country all our help and money :)

A majority of people here have those problems because it's because of our own kind doing this ***to each other. Or it's their own fault (Gambling money away, crime, drug addiction. etc). All of this is man made and we're supposed to spend money on their mistakes? When nature happens it's much different. It's more important to help people who could starve or die of thirst. If a homeless person is thirsty there is always a source of fresh water nearby.


Japan's problem is a natural disaster. Thousands of people died in a day as opposed to the ***that went down over the course of months/years. The death toll will probably increase, so sorry people give a ***.
lmfaooo not everyone lives in a good neighborhood where there local bums can go drink some fresh "Smart" water from a fountain lol

Biggz is making a very good point, there clearly is a significant issue in America- the plague of ignorance and lack of compassion and understanding in its youth. I think that is rather apparent and well demonstrated by Biggz himself. Clearly living in a "bad" neighborhood and having a strong understanding of "street" life he finds it best to berate people trying to address a pressing world issue then to get off his computer and help the people he deems needy in his own neighborhood.

Attitudes like this are a much more pressing issue for our future then any amount of homelessness and poverty- people nowadays expect to get everything without doing anything themselves... That attitude only perpetuates the cycle of hopelessness and failure.

Any amount of positivity and helping others is good for the greater good whether it be in your back yard or on the other side of the world. Spending energy to attack people who want to or feel the need to help others is a complete waste and you should be ashamed of yourself.


Couldn't have said it better myself.
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By Phoenix.Biggz 2011-03-14 18:18:37  
Fenrir.Skarwind said:

This logic is fail.

Imagine all of what happened in Japan happened to you for one god damn minute. It starts with an, Earthquake, then the Tsunami, then the reactors having problems. Then you find out a volcano starts spewing ash and lava.

At the moment you feel like it's the god damn end of the world as you know it. Gas is rationed to only 11 ounces per person. Food and Water are getting scarce. Whole coastal cities have sunk under water because the ground itself has sunk. While other cities have been washed away including schools full of children. Population 72,000 and suddenly the town is in ruins and empty, no survivors anywhere.
All of the water is full of debris, ***, oil, whatever the *** is in that black sludgy mess. Any water we have here even in a wishing fountain suddenly would quench your thirst.

To sum things up. STFU


Go somewhere else? Ive might not have seen Natural Disasters but I have seen disasters to go ahead and say noone really cares if its not happening to them best they would do is say "My prayers are w/ them" knowing damn well you praying atm isn't gonna do ***
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