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 Asura.Dameshi
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-03-17 15:52:26  
I'm going to be honest. I hate US media. They do nothing but instill panic in people over everything.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-03-17 15:53:12  
Asura.Dameshi said:
I'm going to be honest. I hate US media. They do nothing but instill panic in people over everything.
they know how to move the masses into corners and make them ***their pants.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-03-17 15:55:18  
From what I understand, the Fukushima Daiichi plant was actually scheduled to be dismantled and replaced with a more modern one later this month.

So I imagine that's still the plan! There's just a whooooole lot more zeroes now added to the bill.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-03-17 16:11:01  
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Jae, Krizz, with all this talk, and how the situation is with the reactors... do both of you forsee maybe a upgrade to the facilites now, as we mentioned way back in maybe thread page 13-18, regarding the New Gen 4 upgrades?( that would be the new ones that would be built in 2014-2020?

i know there is still alot of work, and b/c of the seriousness, would this be the time to upgrade?
I'm not qualified to speculate on build-outs of new reactors. I'll leave that to the nuke engineers here. =)

That being said, it seems they've completed a new power line to the site with pretty jaw-dropping speed, and are in the process of hooking the pumps back up. If true, we're in pretty good shape.


Naw, never said or even implied you were a nuclear expert, Boss...LOL, I was just wondering what your thoughts were.. as I was probably gonna make a guess and say that they would, considering that they are were a 2nd gen plant with possible 3rd gen modifications...


I'm just happy that these workers are considered to be heroes, in my opinion. Well Done Japan!
I don't know crap about them, but I do expect to see a major review of nuclear plants around the world. That being said, I don't foresee nuclear power being decreased after this.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-03-17 16:13:52  
From Slate.com, worth a chuckle.

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Police aren't the only ones on patrol since the earthquake hit. Members of the Yakuza, Japan's organized crime syndicate, have also been enforcing order. All three major crime groups—the Yamaguchi-gumi, the Sumiyoshi-kai, and the Inagawa-kai—have "compiled squads to patrol the streets of their turf and keep an eye out to make sure looting and robbery doesn't occur," writes Jake Adelstein, author of Tokyo Vice: An American Reporter on the Police Beat in Japan, in an e-mail message. "The Sumiyoshi-kai claims to have shipped over 40 tons of [humanitarian aid] supplies nationwide and I believe that's a conservative estimate."

One group has even opened its Tokyo offices to displaced Japanese and foreigners who were stranded after the first tremors disabled public transportation. "As one Sumiyoshi-kai boss put it to me over the phone," says Adelstein, " 'In times of crisis, there are not Yakuza and civilians or foreigners. There are only human beings and we should help each other.' " Even during times of peace, the Yakuza enforce order, says Adelstein. They make their money off extortion, prostitution, and drug trafficking. But they consider theft or violent crime against innocent civilians to be grounds for expulsion.
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2011-03-17 16:27:00  
Asura.Dameshi said:
I'm going to be honest. I hate US media. They do nothing but instill panic in people over everything.

Do read.
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By Bismarck.Killercat 2011-03-17 16:53:48  
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They are not. The amount of radiation is potentially as high as 100-400 milliSv/hr close to the reactor, which isn't enough to kill you or even do serious damage unless you camp out there for 10+ hours. It's likely much higher inside the reactor containment itself, but that's expected, and nobody's going in there.

Thats correct, IF these values are 100% correct and honestly - I doubt that!

Even if these values are correct they ARE still risking their lives. Anytime the situation can get worse and there is no Starship Enterprise there to beam them out.
 
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By Bismarck.Killercat 2011-03-17 17:14:15  
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4 days with CNN, and everyone's an expert.

/sighs

Still better than FOX lmao
 
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-03-17 17:32:49  
Fox has spent several hours over the last few days implying that Obama somehow caused the disaster, and/or is intentionally letting it get worse, in order to stoke political resistance to nuclear energy.

I ***you not.
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By Artemicion 2011-03-17 17:35:00  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fox has spent several hours over the last few days implying that Obama somehow caused the disaster, and/or is intentionally letting it get worse, in order to stoke political resistance to nuclear energy.

I ***you not.

(sigh)
Fox news is going to drive me to being a hermit someday.
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By Bismarck.Killercat 2011-03-17 17:35:17  
Asura.Catastrophe said:
Bismarck.Killercat said:
Asura.Catastrophe said:
4 days with CNN, and everyone's an expert.

/sighs

Still better than FOX lmao

They all need to be ashamed of themselves. Really. And I boycott all of them from now on.

Ignoring things doesn't make them disappear XD

But anyway, I think most of these ppl just want to "help". But reality is much more brutal. The engineers working there are no dumbasses. I won't state their decisions are natural the right ones, but I make a bet EVERY idea written here was already considered (if its not like "Lets D2 the core" xD)

Just pray (if you are actually believe in any god) it will have some kind of "happy end"
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By Bismarck.Rharmony 2011-03-17 17:35:24  
I stopped caring about Fox after the 'Anonymous' Report.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-03-17 17:35:31  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fox has spent several hours over the last few days implying that Obama somehow caused the disaster, and/or is intentionally letting it get worse, in order to stoke political resistance to nuclear energy.

I ***you not.


Fox has been spewing this type of garbage for the last ... who the *** knows when >.>

Fox is like the blackhole of retards :/
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By Artemicion 2011-03-17 17:36:35  
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I stopped caring about Fox after the 'Anonymous' Report.

Gotta warn people about exploding yellow vans and prank calls.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-03-17 17:38:16  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fox has spent several hours over the last few days implying that Obama somehow caused the disaster, and/or is intentionally letting it get worse, in order to stoke political resistance to nuclear energy.

I ***you not.

It's expected really.. This is why I'm glad if Rupert Murdoch gets his way and succeeds in taking over one of the biggest providers over here in the UK the Government have told him if he is to have any hope he has to dissolve or sell the News part of their central network... I'd rather not have something like Fox News over here spouting crap, and people believing it. =/
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-03-17 17:40:53  


The highest that detected radiation has gotten at the power plant in question was a brief spike to 400 mSv during a hydrogen explosion.

It's remained around 2-10 mSv at the front gate for most of the time.

(It should be noted that they got their percent decimal place math wrong in one of the footnotes, but it doesn't change the chart.)
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-03-17 17:43:51  
Would a extended period of time around the plant do anymore damage than that chart mentions though?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-03-17 17:46:21  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:


The highest that detected radiation has gotten at the power plant in question was a brief spike to 400 mSv during a hydrogen explosion.

It's remained around 2-10 mSv at the front gate for most of the time.

(It should be noted that they got their percent decimal place math wrong in one of the footnotes, but it doesn't change the chart.)
Lol when you said 2-10 to people who don't know they instantly assume it's bad with how the US media is covering it....
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-03-17 17:48:42  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fox has spent several hours over the last few days implying that Obama somehow caused the disaster, and/or is intentionally letting it get worse, in order to stoke political resistance to nuclear energy.

I ***you not.
Which show is blaming Obama? I watch it off and on during the day while I'm at work, and I haven't seen any of that.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-03-17 17:52:44  
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fox has spent several hours over the last few days implying that Obama somehow caused the disaster, and/or is intentionally letting it get worse, in order to stoke political resistance to nuclear energy.

I ***you not.
Which show is blaming Obama? I watch it off and on during the day while I'm at work, and I haven't seen any of that.

None of them are.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2011-03-17 17:59:10  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fox has spent several hours over the last few days implying that Obama somehow caused the disaster, and/or is intentionally letting it get worse, in order to stoke political resistance to nuclear energy.

I ***you not.


How could all the media be doing this??? I think all the medias, for all what they have done by being outright, and making the most of their time by making BS up and making rumors about their own stories... they oughta line up and start pucking their kissers to kiss this guys rear end....




Like Obama had anything to do with Japan's crisis... ***me...
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-03-17 18:00:37  
I've lost count of how many are referring to Obama "playing golf" and "working on his NCAA bracket" while Japan is in crisis.

Megyn Kelly and Fox & Friends were particularly direct about it, running footers asking "Questions about Obama's Response to Crisis," Neil Cavuto had on Donald who did the same, Hannity mentioned it in passing and drew the connection to anti-nuclear environmentalists, etc.
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By Artemicion 2011-03-17 18:02:01  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
I've lost count of how many are referring to Obama "playing golf" and "working on his NCAA bracket" while Japan is in crisis.

Megyn Kelly was particularly direct about it, running footers asking "Questions about Obama's Response to Crisis," Neil Cavuto had on Donald who did the same, Hannity mentioned it in passing and drew the connection to anti-nuclear environmentalists, etc.

Quick, lets take everything out of context and give vague non-existent connections between what is happening now and what is perceived to be happening!

Fox news is about as legit as The Onion; except not funny.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-03-17 18:02:55  
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Several people here in California have reportedly gotten extremely sick due to allergic reactions from overdoses of potassium iodine tablets.



I can see it now, Diluted Orange Gatorade + Plastic IV bags + Stupid Americans = Profit!
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By Bismarck.Killercat 2011-03-17 18:03:21  
Again... you were there with a contamination meter?

I won't question that chart (although these are statistic values and statisics, um, well, you can always bend them in a way you want them without actually lying).

Don't want to meet trouble halfway thou.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2011-03-17 18:03:23  
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
I've lost count of how many are referring to Obama "playing golf" and "working on his NCAA bracket" while Japan is in crisis.

Megyn Kelly was particularly direct about it, running footers asking "Questions about Obama's Response to Crisis," Neil Cavuto had on Donald who did the same, Hannity mentioned it in passing and drew the connection to anti-nuclear environmentalists, etc.



Directed to all the news networks... Not Jaerik...LOL


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