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 Asura.Ebry
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By Asura.Ebry 2011-03-11 21:23:12  
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Unfortunately people are already in a panic. Some guy came to my pharmacy today telling me he had to have Potassium and Iodine. Like, he was ready to jump the counter for it :/

... Wut?

I'm not sure why. I just heard him shouting and saw him waving a pen at one of the other Techs. He was asking like, whats the biggest bottle of Iodine he could buy. o.o
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-03-11 21:24:59  
Asura.Ebry said:
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Asura.Ebry said:
Unfortunately people are already in a panic. Some guy came to my pharmacy today telling me he had to have Potassium and Iodine. Like, he was ready to jump the counter for it :/

... Wut?

I'm not sure why. I just heard him shouting and saw him waving a pen at one of the other Techs. He was asking like, whats the biggest bottle of Iodine he could buy. o.o

A pen?

Well, guess it is said it is mightier than the sword.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-03-11 21:25:09  
Yahoo has some good links up for people who want to help btw:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110311/wl_yblog_newsroom/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-how-to-help
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2011-03-11 21:25:09  
...wow lol

A pen? Really? :| Scary.
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By Asura.Ebry 2011-03-11 21:26:16  
Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said:
...wow lol

A pen? Really? :| Scary.

I've seen stranger but this was the first time i've seen someone shouting like that :/
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By Caitsith.Taazy 2011-03-11 21:28:20  
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0324: Michael Tonge, a teacher from Sendai, tells the BBC: "Going to take a few days for things to get a bit better. Still experiencing strong aftershocks. No trains running so many people stuck and sleeping rough in freezing conditions as had heavy snow storm just after quake when people running to go to evacuation points in parks
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2011-03-11 21:30:10  
@BBCBreaking via Twitter said:
0302: A similar warning, but with a more doom-laden tone, comes from Edwin Lyman, a senior staff scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists. He tells Reuters: "We don't have all the information but every indication is that the type of event that occurred there is one of the most serious things that can happen to a nuclear reactor."

@BBCBreaking via Twitter said:
0304: Mr Lyman goes on to raise the spectre of Chernobyl: "In the worst case the entire core could melt through the steel reactor vessel and escape into the containment building, and then the containment is the only thing that is standing between the radiation in the reactor and the atmosphere. There is a chance if that does occur that there will be over pressure, the containment can fail and you might have a release on the order of the Chernobyl accident."

Let the fear-mongering begin!

@BBCBreaking via Twitter said:
0308: The Union of Concerned Scientists is publishing updates on its website covering technical aspects of the nuclear difficulties in Japan.

Brb digging through this for a while.
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2011-03-11 21:31:21  
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Has it been proven that this "Earthquake" occurred naturally yet?
Cnn says possible source:
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-03-11 21:39:19  
GOD DAMN YOU POKEMON BLACK/WHITE!!!!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2011-03-11 21:43:02  
Is the steam-driven RCIC they mention the second tier you were talking about? And then the water surrounding the physical core is the third tier?
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2011-03-11 21:59:16  
So the steam releases we saw going off at the two plants were probably that first tier of the relief system?

I'm doing some digging on BWRs vs PWRs and finding claims that they do in fact have similar safety systems set up, so that's cool.

When you say a water relief for the 3rd tier, do you mean that they physically dump a back-up water supply directly onto the core?

As you can tell, I know basically nothing about these things.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou 2011-03-11 22:29:53  
I'm really spending the time going through the details (<3 google) and trying to understand the processes involved, but my physics has gotten rusty.

If I'm understanding what I'm reading, though, it sounds like -- assuming the housing hasn't been damaged or something -- they just have to get the coolant pumps back up and running and keep the cores covered for a long enough period of time for everything to cool back down, and, voila, crisis averted.

I'm guessing the relief systems you're describing are time-saving measures to keep the coolant levels high and keep the cores covered while they install those emergency batteries and get the pumps running again.

Does this sound about right? (If so, I'd like to understand how releasing the steam helps this. I'm reading the link you gave about DNB and I'm not sure I understand why lowering the pressure in the boiler helps that.)

I have a feeling I'm still confused.

Edit: Actually, it sounds like even the batteries are a time-saving measure, since they don't run the pumps, they just run the RCIC, which just keeps the water levels high?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-11 22:47:38  
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GOD DAMN YOU POKEMON BLACK/WHITE!!!!
Pokemon creator died in that earthquake :/
 
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-11 22:49:57  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
GOD DAMN YOU POKEMON BLACK/WHITE!!!!
Pokemon creator died in that earthquake :/

I couldn't believe that :(
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-03-11 22:50:36  
Damn did he really? I feel terrible now.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-11 22:51:04  
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Damn did he really? I feel terrible now.
He did.
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2011-03-11 22:51:10  
For the reactor stuff, we were reported at work that there were no leaks reported for the shutdown.

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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2011-03-11 22:51:26  
Grrrrrr. Tweets are rolling in about it. GAH I feel like an ***...
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-11 22:51:33  
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Damn did he really? I feel terrible now.

Yeah, he died in the Tsunami.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-03-11 22:51:43  
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
GOD DAMN YOU POKEMON BLACK/WHITE!!!!
Pokemon creator died in that earthquake :/

I couldn't believe that :(
Are you two trollin' or serious? Post a source.

EDIT: I just tried Googling Pokemon creator dead and everything that comes up is from like Oct. or some ***.
 
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-11 22:52:28  
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Grrrrrr. Tweets are rolling in about it. GAH I feel like an ***...

tbh it's a rule of thumb not to act like an *** at all when there's a natural disaster of this magnitude. You have no idea who's going to be upset by it. People have family all over the world.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-11 22:53:41  
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
GOD DAMN YOU POKEMON BLACK/WHITE!!!!
Pokemon creator died in that earthquake :/

I couldn't believe that :(
Are you two trollin' or serious? Post a source.
Well I went to the wiki page, but they corrected it. Apparently, he just fainted now. He was presumed dead until 5 mins ago.
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2011-03-11 22:53:54  
My joke wasn't that bad of taste. Not like i'm making videos or anything...
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2011-03-11 22:54:26  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
GOD DAMN YOU POKEMON BLACK/WHITE!!!!
Pokemon creator died in that earthquake :/

I couldn't believe that :(
Are you two trollin' or serious? Post a source.
Well I went to the wiki page, but they corrected it. Apparently, he just fainted now. He was presumed dead until 5 mins ago.

Ironic how Pokémon don't die... they faint.
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