[On the note of Avatars, I rather like yours too Spicy and Niniann's. I think she's had it before.
/nod I have, a looong time ago. I might've used it again at some point for a bit but it's probably the one I've had for the longest period of time at any rate~ I love Franziska von Karma.
All I gotta say is: the game is what you make of it.
If you approach it with a cynical and rotten attitude, the game will probably drag on and be miserably boring for you, yielding little to no results or fulfillment.
But if you truly enjoy the game for the substance therein and the company you play with, and feel at least some sense of connection with your alter-ego of a character, then be steadfast and keep playing til you get exactly what you want. If it weren't for adversity, the reward would be but bittersweet and unsatisfying.
TL;DR Keep your chin up, or just quit playing. Nobody wants to hear your bitching.
You guys keep calling it bitching, which would be a valid point if I didn't have one. People are leaving, like you say, soon maybe there will be nothing to *** about. If you can't handle constructive criticism (my arguments have a point, I don't base any of them off emotion) then whos really acting like the *** here?
Wat?
I think he just admitted he is a ***.
I don't think you guys know what parenthesis imply in a sentence, to make more sense of it read it as if whats contained inside doesn't exist. Now I'm having to defend myself cause a couple people don't understand reading comprehension.
At any rate i think I'm done with this thread. Its hilariously hypocritical that people call constructive criticism bitching when the subject is one that is currently failing vie de-population. I know you love you're game, but geesh.
[On the note of Avatars, I rather like yours too Spicy and Niniann's. I think she's had it before.
/nod I have, a looong time ago. I might've used it again at some point for a bit but it's probably the one I've had for the longest period of time at any rate~ I love Franziska von Karma.
I need to get around to those games soon. The best I have to go off is the flash spoof, Phoenix Wrong and Wikipedia. She's definitely what I picture when I read your username on here, not any of your other avatars. They confuse and infuriate me! lol
All I gotta say is: the game is what you make of it. If you approach it with a cynical and rotten attitude, the game will probably drag on and be miserably boring for you, yielding little to no results or fulfillment. But if you truly enjoy the game for the substance therein and the company you play with, and feel at least some sense of connection with your alter-ego of a character, then be steadfast and keep playing til you get exactly what you want. If it weren't for adversity, the reward would be but bittersweet and unsatisfying. TL;DR Keep your chin up, or just quit playing. Nobody wants to hear your bitching.
You guys keep calling it bitching, which would be a valid point if I didn't have one. People are leaving, like you say, soon maybe there will be nothing to *** about. If you can't handle constructive criticism (my arguments have a point, I don't base any of them off emotion) then whos really acting like the *** here?
Wat?
I think he just admitted he is a ***.
I don't think you guys know what parenthesis imply in a sentence, to make more sense of it read it as if whats contained inside doesn't exist. Now I'm having to defend myself cause a couple people don't understand reading comprehension. At any rate i think I'm done with this thread. Its hilariously hypocritical that people call constructive criticism bitching when the subject is one that is currently failing vie de-population. I know you love you're game, but geesh.
Lol, Flion's new avatar is hilarious. I can't stop laughing.
Lmfao it is so great, but I am sure some mod will ride his ***about having fun. DON'T JOKE AT OTHERS EXPENSE!
But that's the best way to have fun, Mod! I mean, c'mon, you have fun with your big *** avatar while telling me I can't post ***! Q,Q! On the note of Avatars, I rather like yours too Spicy and Niniann's. I think she's had it before.
Haha Krizz wanted me to remove it too. NO FUN! IT IS OFFENSIVE :P Oh the world of today. A sad place.
lol, silly Mods. They need to watch the Steve Hughes clip you post time to time.
I don't think you guys know what parenthesis imply in a sentence, to make more sense of it read it as if whats contained inside doesn't exist. Now I'm having to defend myself cause a couple people don't understand reading comprehension.
At any rate i think I'm done with this thread. Its hilariously hypocritical that people call constructive criticism bitching when the subject is one that is currently failing vie de-population. I know you love you're game, but geesh.
It is bitching, because these shortcomings apply strictly to you as per your case.
And nobody cares.
All I gotta say is: the game is what you make of it.
If you approach it with a cynical and rotten attitude, the game will probably drag on and be miserably boring for you, yielding little to no results or fulfillment.
But if you truly enjoy the game for the substance therein and the company you play with, and feel at least some sense of connection with your alter-ego of a character, then be steadfast and keep playing til you get exactly what you want. If it weren't for adversity, the reward would be but bittersweet and unsatisfying.
TL;DR Keep your chin up, or just quit playing. Nobody wants to hear your bitching.
You guys keep calling it bitching, which would be a valid point if I didn't have one. People are leaving, like you say, soon maybe there will be nothing to *** about. If you can't handle constructive criticism (my arguments have a point, I don't base any of them off emotion) then whos really acting like the *** here?
Wat?
I think he just admitted he is a ***.
I don't think you guys know what parenthesis imply in a sentence, to make more sense of it read it as if whats contained inside doesn't exist. Now I'm having to defend myself cause a couple people don't understand reading comprehension.
At any rate i think I'm done with this thread. Its hilariously hypocritical that people call constructive criticism bitching when the subject is one that is currently failing vie de-population. I know you love you're game, but geesh.
All I gotta say is: the game is what you make of it.
If you approach it with a cynical and rotten attitude, the game will probably drag on and be miserably boring for you, yielding little to no results or fulfillment.
But if you truly enjoy the game for the substance therein and the company you play with, and feel at least some sense of connection with your alter-ego of a character, then be steadfast and keep playing til you get exactly what you want. If it weren't for adversity, the reward would be but bittersweet and unsatisfying.
TL;DR Keep your chin up, or just quit playing. Nobody wants to hear your bitching.
You guys keep calling it bitching, which would be a valid point if I didn't have one. People are leaving, like you say, soon maybe there will be nothing to *** about. If you can't handle constructive criticism (my arguments have a point, I don't base any of them off emotion) then whos really acting like the *** here?
Wat?
I think he just admitted he is a ***.
I don't think you guys know what parenthesis imply in a sentence, to make more sense of it read it as if whats contained inside doesn't exist. Now I'm having to defend myself cause a couple people don't understand reading comprehension.
At any rate i think I'm done with this thread. Its hilariously hypocritical that people call constructive criticism bitching when the subject is one that is currently failing vie de-population. I know you love you're game, but geesh.
When you're done with a thread you actually have to stop posting. I'm guessing that won't be the case.
But yeah, the standard "I'm done guys *sniff*" when you get mercilessly butt pummeled.
Key notes: Interactive = Play = Fun.
Staring/waiting = X.
1) Wasting an incredible amount of peoples time. Its one thing for progress to be slow in game, its another when no progress goes on at all. For example trying to pop a tier2 (of course this isn't the only way to get seals, but in some cases its the only means in a practical sense, as other nm's may require more people than you can help to bring along with you) nm in the midst of competition. It would be one thing, say if SE decided to make it a requirement of 20 body seals to get af+1 to slow progress, but instead they choose to make one tier2 pop at a time. Meaning the group or person not getting the pop isn't getting to do really much of anything at all, and if he doesn't wait hey may miss his turn, or his chance, the video game ceases to be a video game that you're actually "playing" or being interactive with, as much as your just staring at a computer screen waiting for someone else to finish doing something. (There are quest to obtain seals, that can be done any time without delay, but the chance at the correct reward is incredibly slim, and a retarded repetitive quest does not = fun in any sense, especially when the reward vie an nm is so much greater, and so much funner (ie a battle) in respect to those quests.)
The distinction I'm making between slow progress in respect to not playing and slow progress vie just because the nature of the process taking long is a very important distinction. IE there is no "fun" in waiting, or in NOT playing as can be found in a process that would take equally as long but allows you to actually do something in respect to that goal.
2) Another example of just staring at the screen in ffxi as opposed to being interactive is lfp. Especially for certain jobs (and before 76), (brd whm), the video game turns into staring at a chat log waiting for purple letters to pop up that say (party?), it isn't till then that you're actually "playing". It wasn't for years till SE finally came up with /dnc, that helps in some cases, but this is still incredibly slow progress in comparison to group play and again can't really apply to all jobs.
3) Lack of reward or incentive for people to help you. Most things in ffxi require groups or parties (obviously). LS's usually require point systems or something to that like. Heroes of aby nms is the only example I can think of wherein this has been somewhat changed/helped by the implication of "trophies" in kills. I don't mind helping for example in respect to a Rani cause it gives me the chance to get an augmented body, but again, this is a rather new thing and is only found in heroes, quite pathetic. (One could also argue abyssitse and or atmas, but these are temp things, once done they're done, trophies on the other hand can relate to multiple jobs and require random augments that can take multiple times on each)
