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 Ifrit.Herc
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By Ifrit.Herc 2011-03-06 13:54:41  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
If this guy can get a Kannagi, there's no reason for any nin not to have one.

Plz do explain?? Im curious

@chibo: nah dude i rarely use yonin
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By Cerberus.Eliane 2011-03-06 13:55:21  
Either.

1) You didnt crit
2) Double attack procced (or Triple), and the first hit missed.
3) Zanshin (Idk if this is even on NIN)
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-06 13:57:09  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Blade: Hi is a 4 hit WS, but like all Relics, HQ Empyreans, and Mythics they are considered a one hit WS thus giving it the accuracy+100 trait that all 1 hit WS' have.
It's 4 hit but considered 1 wut!?!The text says nothing about being multihit...

Also not all 1 hit ws get accuracy bonus
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-06 13:57:37  
Zanshin doesn't work w/ dual wield.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-06 13:58:10  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Blade: Hi is a 4 hit WS, but like all Relics, HQ Empyreans, and Mythics they are considered a one hit WS thus giving it the accuracy+100 trait that all 1 hit WS' have.
It's 4 hit but considered 1 wut!?! Also not all 1 hit ws get accuracy bonus
The first hit of any physical melee ws does, however.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-06 14:00:41  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also not all 1 hit ws get accuracy bonus
Which ones don't?
well, he didn't say the word melee. I don't think any of the ranged ws' get a bonus.
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-06 14:02:07  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also not all 1 hit ws get accuracy bonus
Which ones don't?
I've only tested POS dagger/swd ones since I didn't have much to work with at the time that I could use without having to deal with potential DA/TA... could probably do more now if I could get parser to work again.
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By Cerberus.Eliane 2011-03-06 14:02:20  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also not all 1 hit ws get accuracy bonus
Which ones don't?
well, he didn't say the word melee. I don't think any of the ranged ws' get a bonus.

actually, ranged is more of a accuracy decrease.

Sidewhifffffff
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-06 14:39:21  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Blade: Hi is a 4 hit WS
?

Ifrit.Therealchibo said:
Depening no the WS gear he might have a high amount of - accuracy. Inside abyssea he is capped, outside could be another story cause if your fighting anything outside Abyssea it should at least be 85+.
Outside Abyssea mob eva was geared towards level 75 players. Considering you gain 2% hitrate just for leveling up (decreased level correction) until you match the mob's level + acc gained from skill, capping hitrate naked on all current non-Abyssea endgame content is a completely reasonable assumption.
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By Ifrit.Herc 2011-03-06 14:57:14  
Not trying to bash peoples theories but i just cant find abywhere that blade hi is a 4 hit WS... Only thing i contibye to see is quadruple dmg....also since the offhand apparently contributes towards blade hi can one assume the augment dual wield that comes with full +2 (granting bonus swing in offhand) boost up blade hi dmg if that augment procs.


(Sry if typing is shitty...doing this from phone at work)
 
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-06 15:07:28  
Single wield, 1 hit
single wield double attack, 2 hit
single wield triple attack, 3 hit
single wield quad attack, 4 hit
dual wield, 2 hit
dual wield double attack, 3 hit
dual wield double attack x2, 4 hit
dual wield triple attack, 4 hit
dual wield triple attack x2, 5 hit
dual wield quad attack, 5 hit (lol twilight)
dual wield quad attack x2, 8 hit (loltwilight)
dual wield double attack + triple attack, 5 hit
dual wield double attack + quad attack, 6 hit (loltwilight)
dual wield triple attack + quad attack, 7 hit (loltwilight)

I miss anything?
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 Ifrit.Therealchibo
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By Ifrit.Therealchibo 2011-03-06 15:24:16  
Just go out and test Blade hi with different ***and *** around with it until your happy with your damge, Herc. End of forum.
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By Ifrit.Herc 2011-03-06 15:29:07  
Ifrit.Therealchibo said:
Just go out and test Blade hi with different ***and *** around with it until your happy with your damge, Herc. End of forum.

Im more than happy with my dmg....its the random inconsistincies that occur.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-06 15:34:06  
iirc, set bonus does not proc on WS.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-03-06 15:50:57  
Find a way to full time Zerk/Stalwark + Red Curry/Buns so you can full time in WS Gorget and Belt for added accuracy.

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By Ramuh.Thetone 2011-03-06 22:25:03  
Your first hit is the heavy dmg hit so watch your tp return to determine if you're wiffing with the main hand. Other than that its crit based which is the other major factor to your dmg.
As you are dual wielding the ws is going to be 2 hit and can proc DA/TA/QA if you have it so you'll see some crazy high spike dmg at times.
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-06 22:37:35  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Blade: Hi is a 4 hit WS, but like all Relic, Empyrean, and Mythic WS' they are considered a one hit WS thus giving it the accuracy+100 trait that all 1 hit WS' have. Also, like others said it's probably Double Attack, Triple Attack, or Zanshin.
Source please?

What about ones like Ukko's or Drakesbane that explicitly say 'two/three/four-fold attack' o_O?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-06 22:41:30  
There is no source, that's 100% incorrect.

Need verification?

"but like all relic, Empyrean, and Mythic WS' they are considered a one hit WS"


Victory smite ws description
"Delivers a fourfold attack."

I guess Drakesbane and Tachi: Rani are also 1 hit ws!


Edit: Rana... damn abyssea
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-06 22:46:09  
Not to mention the different tp returns...
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-06 22:51:56  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
There is no source, that's 100% incorrect. Need verification? "but like all relic, Empyrean, and Mythic WS' they are considered a one hit WS" Victory smite ws description "Delivers a fourfold attack." I guess Drakesbane and Tachi: Rani are also 1 hit ws! Edit: Rana... damn abyssea
Thank you, I was wondering, it sounded incredibly skeptical.

Aside for topic at hand; I do have these whiffs occasionally too, its not the skill being bad, just a missed main hand strike, non crits etc. My drg's drakes can occasionally hit in the 1500s when I do >.>;.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-03-07 00:50:40  
Srsly though give me your Kannagi.... please?


I will give you some AB coins 4 real.....
Don't be a hater, you know you can just go farm another one faster than me anyway. ;p
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-07 01:38:37  
Wafflechan said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Blade: Hi is a 4 hit WS, but like all Relic, Empyrean, and Mythic WS' they are considered a one hit WS thus giving it the accuracy+100 trait that all 1 hit WS' have. Also, like others said it's probably Double Attack, Triple Attack, or Zanshin.
Source please?

What about ones like Ukko's or Drakesbane that explicitly say 'two/three/four-fold attack' o_O?
4.0 fTP = 4 hits and x-fold attack = x FTP. IT'S SO SIMPLE HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-03-07 01:41:02  
similar to down syndrome
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By Valefor.Kermit 2011-03-17 23:41:07  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Wafflechan said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Blade: Hi is a 4 hit WS, but like all Relic, Empyrean, and Mythic WS' they are considered a one hit WS thus giving it the accuracy+100 trait that all 1 hit WS' have. Also, like others said it's probably Double Attack, Triple Attack, or Zanshin.
Source please?

What about ones like Ukko's or Drakesbane that explicitly say 'two/three/four-fold attack' o_O?
4.0 fTP = 4 hits and x-fold attack = x FTP. IT'S SO SIMPLE HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND


I DONT UNDERSTANDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-17 23:43:23  
I'm sorry, there's no hope for you =\
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