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 Leviathan.Draugo
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-03-02 20:15:25  
Has anyone looked into a Aeolian Edge build on NIN for the best damage?

Just barely found out that NIN has access to this WS and I am currently skilling dagger to unlock it.

With that said I am wondering what a good build would be for it.

For both inside and outside abyssea. Also what is a good dagger for NIN these days?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 20:17:56  
Generally put in mab then int/dex. Martial dagger is awesome for aeolian. Atmas gales, ultimate, and hells guardian. Smiting blow if you can't get a martial dagger.

Twilight is a good general DD dagger between subtle blow/agi you can steal tp almost as fast as you give it.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-02 20:30:24  
Martial Knife/???/---/INT+2 or DEX+2 item
Maat's/Uggy/Novio/Hecate's
Osode/AF3+2/DEXorINT+7/DEXorINT+7
Nifty/Sanctuary+1 or Cuchu/Byakko's/DEXorINT+6

If AE has a dINT component then you'd favor the INT items, otherwise wouldn't matter. Not sure how MAB+3 rings compare to stat+ rings, they're probably slightly better but meh.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 20:35:08  
AE uses fint. Which caps kinda low so with normal gearing should be able to hit.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-03-02 20:38:01  
Is it possible to double or triple attack it? or is it a one hitter only?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 20:38:51  
It's magical can't double/triple.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 20:42:42  
Thiazi's Belt would have more dex than cuch.

Hachiryu Kote is as good as af3+2 hands

Ree's Headgear is good.

ACP/MKE augments could be good.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-03-02 20:45:28  
Ok,

Once you have stacked as much MAB as you can get your hands on is it better to shoot for 50/50 between DEX and INT?

I am assuming that since I am Elvaan and have merited DEX might be better to go all out INT to get totals as near as possible between base DEX and added INT?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 20:48:51  
Just get whichever you can get the highest total amount of dex and int. They both add exactly the same amount there is no point balancing or whatever you are asking. How much you have of one has no effect on the other.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-03-02 20:49:39  
Ok cool, thanks for the answers!

Now to compound it /BLM all the way for best damage? lol
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 20:51:29  
Well ok outside of abyssea especially on harder targets int will be slightly better than dex since you may not be capping fint... but I really don't see anyone using this outside of abyssea anyways
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-02 21:00:11  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
AE uses fint.
Gotcha, thanks.

Bahamut.Dasva said:
Thiazi's Belt would have more dex than cuch.
Totally forgot about that item.

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Hachiryu Kote is as good as af3+2 hands
But takes twice the work to get and is half as useful, might as well list the item you'd have around anyway.

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ACP/MKE augments could be good.
Any relevant ones? I can't think of any that beat easily obtained alternatives these days. Seems like you could get a MAB+ belt from MMM now I think about it but idr how much.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 21:03:32  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
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ACP/MKE augments could be good.
Any relevant ones? I can't think of any that beat easily obtained alternatives these days. Seems like you could get a MAB+ belt from MMM now I think about it but idr how much.
Um MAB on them? Or for MKE MAB and +ws dmg or some int.

Also the MMM belts are from the one where you help out a goblin beat stuff up. Kinda hard to get the higher lvl ones though.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-03-02 21:04:06  
how do you people have room for this stuff >:(

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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-03-02 21:04:10  
So even more on this subject, I have heard rumblings all over the place about these AoE WS parties and I was wondering what mobs they do them on and if NIN is ever invited?

I am kinda capped right now on the XP I am interested in, but could see it as a nice way to farm a zone for various KI's or other things from gold chests
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 21:06:31  
Theoretically you could get MAB and dex/int in MMM... good luck with that though
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 21:10:35  
Leviathan.Draugo said:
So even more on this subject, I have heard rumblings all over the place about these AoE WS parties and I was wondering what mobs they do them on and if NIN is ever invited?

I am kinda capped right now on the XP I am interested in, but could see it as a nice way to farm a zone for various KI's or other things from gold chests
AE wouldn't exactly be idle for that but I have heard of nin and thfs doing it for like time farming since they also tank easy.
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2011-03-02 21:37:12  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
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ACP/MKE augments could be good.
Any relevant ones? I can't think of any that beat easily obtained alternatives these days. Seems like you could get a MAB+ belt from MMM now I think about it but idr how much.
Um MAB on them? Or for MKE MAB and +ws dmg or some int. Also the MMM belts are from the one where you help out a goblin beat stuff up. Kinda hard to get the higher lvl ones though.
Elemental belt probably be best anyways I would think? And rather easy to get.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-03-02 21:40:57  
I level people's subs Via DOM ops all the time with this.
Melee attire: +2iga, usual setup
Mainhand: Merc kris
Offhand: Sekka+2 MAB

WS setup:
head:
Neck: Uggy pendant
Ear:Moldy/hecate's
body:Osode
hands:
Rings:Diamond rings(6int each)
Back:Atheling
Waist:
legs:Tumbler Trunks
Feet:ninja kyhan+1

Atma: Beyond, Baying Moon, Ultimate

Not eve a full build but very good, do 1500~ 100tp
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-02 21:42:39  
NINs using Dagger outside of staggering.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-03-02 21:43:49  
Asura.Xenophire said:
NINs using Dagger outside of staggering.

I did laugh quite hard.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-03-02 21:44:15  
Asura.Xenophire said:
NINs using Dagger outside of staggering.
Getting jobs 30-50 in less than 2hrs with no HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE ally's.
Sounds like a good use for dagger
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-02 22:09:57  
Asura.Xenophire said:
NINs using Dagger outside of staggering.
I wasn't aware katana had access to an AoE WS.
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
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ACP/MKE augments could be good.
Any relevant ones? I can't think of any that beat easily obtained alternatives these days. Seems like you could get a MAB+ belt from MMM now I think about it but idr how much.
Um MAB on them? Or for MKE MAB and +ws dmg or some int.

Also the MMM belts are from the one where you help out a goblin beat stuff up. Kinda hard to get the higher lvl ones though.
I meant specific examples.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-02 22:15:00  
Mirke with +4 mab... anwig with 2% ws dmg/4 agi and 2mab
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-03-02 22:24:13  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
I wasn't aware katana had access to an AoE WS.

don't worry about it, he's just trying to use my meme [in a situation where it shouldn't belong] is all

on-topic, i've honestly never even geared aeolian, i just spam it with eva gear on because i don't have the room for the gear set (and after all, me being me, i'd have to go out of my way and get novio for it if i made the set, see: me being poor afterward)



takes an extra minute or two without the gear, but meh, np with gales/ultimate/hell's for atma, and paired with ascetic's does like 1.4k? i think at 100%
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-03-02 22:58:49  
geez, look at that gimp nin using auto target function
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-03-02 23:03:08  
:(
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-03-03 01:21:03  
A lot of this gear seems like it would have use with Blade: Yu as well.

At least if you were packing it around it wouldn't be a total waste of space.
Dokumori: Ni here you go.

edit: I wish Yu was AoE, that would be the ultimate, AoE and poison.
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By Gilgamesh.Ravenlokk 2011-03-03 03:00:46  
I just use my ninjutsu set, NIN gear already takes ~65 slots as it is... not even counting tools. IIRC with twilight knife its avg around 800 dmg with regular duo atmas (RR GH Siren[i its eva over apoc so i can slack lol- and good for pulling]).
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By Subadai 2011-03-03 18:33:56  
Asura.Dajociont said:
geez, look at that gimp nin using auto target function
Why is that gimp? Honest question.
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