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 Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-14 16:53:11
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Asura.Hoshiku said:
Hexa strike has a low fTP (1) and so gorget and belt will help to increase your dmg in a fairly noticeable way
Misconception. Hexa strikes first hit is 1. So are all the other hits making it's effective ftp more around 7 when dual weilding (assuming no double attack or misses). Making gorget and belt add less than 3% dmg between the 2 of them.

People are way too obsessed with gorget/belts. Of the commonly used weaponskills nowadays they are only the best for maybe half of them. The only reason they used to still be good on the multihit ones is because most of the time you were really doing it for the acc but didn't mind a little extra dmg too. However acc has become somewhat irrelavent
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By Islamish 2011-02-14 17:09:36
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I have been working on trying to make my hexa strikes better i have tried different types of gear types and yet i still only can do a 1.5k max hexa outside abyssea i am going to try the gear set above but if possible what do i need to change now to be able to produce better ones? i also have a makhila +1 with WS dmg +10%
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2011-02-14 17:10:43
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Ahh I see, been using gorget for a long time, probably just placebo effect but I always felt like it added about 30 dmg to my ws. Would you recommend ajari bead necklace then? Also how much conserve TP would you have to stack to make it worth using?

edit: also why does xiah show aqua sachet as giving str lol
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By Islamish 2011-02-14 17:16:55
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Mine does too
i store about 24 tp per weapons skill
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-14 17:17:39
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Islamish said:
I have been working on trying to make my hexa strikes better i have tried different types of gear types and yet i still only can do a 1.5k max hexa outside abyssea i am going to try the gear set above but if possible what do i need to change now to be able to produce better ones? i also have a makhila +1 with WS dmg +10%
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I would suggest starting with replacing any armor that diminishes your WS Mods, in your case Flame ring and Reveren's mail.

You can replace Flame for Aqua or even Spiral and Reverend for Augur. maybe switch Morgana's choker for something with Acc like Chivalrious chain / pcc / ziel charm, ele gorget or an Ajari neck for more MND.

You should also opt for a Brutal earring
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By Islamish 2011-02-14 17:22:17
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i am close to brutle earring and i believe i have a solemn ring, and i have augurs
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-14 17:28:57
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Gnadbhod's Helm would be good. Ire Torque +1 if acc fine prudence is nice too. Another club for your offhand... maybe some of those new rse gloves depending on your race. Cognizant Belt. Augurs legs too
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-14 17:37:36
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I'd rather keep an ele belt for the conserve TP.
That + Aesir earring and Rokugo Hakimaki seem like a fine boost to the Acc/Atk/Ctp imo
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By Islamish 2011-02-14 17:49:50
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Wave gages Rare
[Hands] Hume
DEF: 16 HP +50 MP -40 STR +5 DEX -5
AGI +5
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By Bismarck.Veruna 2011-02-14 17:53:02
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Islamish said:
Wave gages Rare
[Hands] Hume
DEF: 16 HP +50 MP -40 STR +5 DEX -5
AGI +5
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AF1+1 > this ^
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-02-14 17:53:20
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i don't think shadow belt works for hexa, did i miss something?
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2011-02-14 17:54:54
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well after testing out said gear my hexa are worse with more mnd so idk i hate we have no real melee gear
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-14 17:59:15
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Even normal whm af1 hands are better than that, terrible advice
Not really I had no idea what his race is. Hence I said maybe depending on your race. I mean ***if he was taru it would've been even worse lol
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-14 18:02:02
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Fenrir.Camaroz said:
well after testing out said gear my hexa are worse with more mnd so idk i hate we have no real melee gear

You seem to be rushing a lot on tests, considering you started the topic about 7 hours ago.

If you post the modifications you applied to your WS build it will also help people out on trying to understand what could be going wrong/right.

Edit: As for STR, I tend to favor it on Hexa strike too, but for certain armor slots, the gap between the ammount of STR or MND you can get is pretty overwhelming (Example: Augur body > Anything else)
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-02-14 18:03:21
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Odin.Sheelay said:
You should also opt for a Brutal earring
One of the few cases where I wouldn't, actually. You get at most 1 DA with a DW Hexa, so the value of DA gear is much diminished.
 
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-14 18:06:27
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
You should also opt for a Brutal earring
One of the few cases where I wouldn't, actually. You get at most 1 DA with a DW Hexa, so the value of DA gear is much diminished.

That depends on whether you are playing in Abyssea with Atmas or outside of Abyssea with just gear and traditional buffs imo, not to mention the ammount of new DA gear available.
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By Islamish 2011-02-14 18:07:40
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I play a hume and i would agree that healers mitts +1 are way better
 
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By Islamish 2011-02-14 18:09:56
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Ramuh.Lorzy said:
i don't think shadow belt works for hexa, did i miss something?
no it just so happened i obtain it using it only for conserve tp
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-14 18:11:05
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Some of them give +7 stat and I didn't have them all memorized
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-14 18:12:26
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Healer's mitts+1 already give +7 to both STR and MND so I doubt there is anything capable of beating them on any race out there, yet.
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2011-02-14 18:12:58
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i added the augur body and the orison cap+2 thats what was suggested so thats what i added. also it takes no time for me to notice a difference in ws especially one i use all the time. i did over 300 ws since maintenance was over
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-14 18:16:02
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I'd go with either Karate-Kid bandana or the orc helm.

Edit: Did you notice any difference in your TP return? If by chance you were missing any hit that could also explain the noticeable drop in damage
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2011-02-14 18:20:08
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not really about 1 or 2 tp off but nothing to make me look one way or the other. i did have better results with the voyager sallet with augurs body so idk
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-14 18:21:09
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1 or 2 TP off are 1 or 2 hits wiffing. Were you testing in or outside of Abyssea?
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2011-02-14 18:22:36
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1 or 2 tp off i dont really miss
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-14 18:25:02
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Fenrir.Camaroz said:
1 or 2 tp off i dont really miss
Clearly you are missing sometimes since you are getting different tp returns. Each hit after the first gives 1 tp if it conects.

Also everyone misses. Even with capped acc you have a good 30% chance to miss at least 1 hit
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-02-14 18:27:32
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so would stacking mods be better than using attack? nobody's really said much about attack gear.
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