Making Hexa Better

Yes i only use regain for Pup & Mnk

You know what else makes Hexa Better? Mjollnir!

Congratulations, Camaroz!!! :D

Grats Cam on your Mjollnir

as the original poster 16 pages later i approve the last 2 messages ty very much

I feel your first set will be better than your second set. The best upgrade I can think of at this time is a nefarious collar, overall, it's a good set, much better than my own set ATM =p

@Camaroz

Late congratulations on your Mjollnir! Time to get some bashing in ^^

U kno what i was thinkin about getting that collar but wasnt sure if it was good thx for confirming for me... Gogo Whm Powah!

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... just got Prudence Torque then this happens lol

Prudence is still cooler!

95 Mjollnir Mines!

Grats =)

On a side note, what do you guys think of Ghillie +1 vs str3/4 or mnd 3/4 earrings for hexa/realm?

thats a good question i have been testing those out aswell but the Ghillie +1 seems slightly better for hexa now Realm on the other hand id just use MND.

'grats Lucky~!

In terms of Hexa Strike, I feel Ghilie +1 should out perform stat earrings. We're attack starved enough as it is.

For Realmrazer, that's a whole different ballgame. Hard to argue with a 100% MND mod, really. The numbers one can pull off of Realmrazer is absolutely disgusting. I call shenanigans on SE claiming Hexa Strike to be stronger than Realmrazer when they made their balance, lol.

Thx! I LOVE IT SOOOOOOOO Much, Now to get (99)Mjollnir ^_^

I've never actually seen a WHM use that ws (realmrazer).. what kind of numbers do you get on it? ;o just curious.

EP Sheep, Dia II, 85 Empy, 90 STR Club, Yellow Curry, maybe one or two Box Steps, but I doubt it. I know it's EP and all but I don't think my Hexa Strike can get anywhere near that kind of number.

Wow that's actually pretty impressive o.o...

Finally got the fragment today after having the attestation for many many many years, now I just have to finish getting the currency :)

nice, I've had my att for about 2 years now too, wth Kal?

I'm nowhere near on my currency though, I'm about 10.4/183, I'd have more but I've been working on axes for bst to increase the loot.

Let's finish together Jetackuu, and beat stuff up together when we finish!

I'd finish a lot faster if it weren't for school, work and my girlfriend, she demands attention...

I'm doing a quicky level on my alt so it will probably bring me an extra 70~ a day right off the bat.

Really the trick will be to hawk all those byne bills to buy currency that's useful. (at least I don't need a lot of those I hate the bird camp in Bub.)

You would probably make money by using Red Curry instead of Yellow Curry in Dynamis, but the main reason you should is for the epeen damage.

It's been awhile since I've done dyna on whm. :( Damn TH makes way too much of a difference in dyna for me to have too much fun on whm =(

The last times I went, I found hexa performed better with the str magian offhand than it did realmrazer. Using any other offhand, realmrazer won. Think my highest ws on DC mobs was a 2544 Hexa (on a cactuar), and that was before I got Rubeus legs. I should totally go back now that Kalasutrax finally put out for me >:D

With my current gear in dyna with DC mobs, hexa would hit for 2100 to high 2400s, sometimes lower (1700-1900) if I don't crit (or possibly missed hits) Realmrazer sits at about 2000-2200. (Using Boost-Str and Boost-Mnd respectively). Numbers are pretty consistent unless there's some missed hits in there, or I'm too lazy to dia/cast boost spells. Realm definetly wins if you want consistency. Not sure what I'd get on EP mobs, haven't touched those in forever :p

Trying to decide if I wanna 99 my Mjollnir or Mandau first :( At least there's a huge supply of Marrows on Odin now, and people are slowly undercutting each other more and more. I've seen prices drop from 17M to 15.5M in the last week. Doubt they're gonna drop too much more, but still tons better than the 30-40m they were on release.

Edit: oops, wrong poster. oh well >_>

So I personally had my doubts about kraken club for WHM so I went and did some numbers on some dynamis mobs since that's probably the most relevant stuff a WHM would melee on. Used Red Curries and Dia 2, /NIN because I didn't think about /DNC, but it won't change much weapon comparison-wise. First set is with STR Magian offhand, second Kraken Club.
I guessed the WS Base crit at 10/20/x so base crit for hexa is 30% here, factoring gear and merits.

Don't take these sets as optimal, I know I left brutal on for WS when I could have used Ghillie+1.

TP


WS




746 Attack
518 Delay
30% DW

362 DW Delay
181 TP Delay
5 TP base
19 store tp

5*1.19

5.9 TP per hit

18% crit rate, (5 base, 5 merits, 8 gear)
95% hit rate

Dia 2 mob defense 404

746/404 = 1.8982 cRatio

10/5 W Rank

13/13 fSTR

106/65 damage

277.567/135.084

1.05*.95 = .9975

276.873/134.747

411.620 damage per round

411.620/(220.2/60) = 112.137 melee dps

2330 WS Damage

8.35 rounds to 100

8.35*220.2+120 = 1959.455 cycle time

411.620*8.35+2330 = 5768.271

5768.271/(1959.455/60) = 176.629 DPS


712 Attack
572 Delay
30% DW

400 DW Delay
200 TP Delay
5.4 TP base
19 store tp

5.4*1.19

6.4 TP per hit

18% crit rate, (5 base, 5 merits, 8 gear)
95% hit rate

Dia 2 mob defense 404

712/404 = 1.8117 cRatio

10/1 W Rank

10/9 fSTR

103/20 damage

258.483/39.834

.9975/3.5426


257.827/141.114

398.952 damage per round

398.952/(243.4/60) = 98.361 melee dps

2105 WS Damage

3.85 rounds to 100

3.85*243.4+120 = 1056.391 cycle time

398.952*3.85+2105 = 3639.863

3639.863/(1056.391/60) = 206.734 DPS

Interesting, thanks Austar for posting that.

Sylow wouldn't let me sleep. :(

Also that's about 17% in Kraken Club's favor, I should probably bold the important numbers.

Wow O-o... Now I also wonder how Realmrazer stacks on a similar test.

Per Kalilla's request, I've made a whm spreadsheet (note: updated today to fix a few bugs). Results are similar to Austar's.

A proper Realmrazer build is a bit ahead of Hexa (~5% or so), but not enough so to be worth the merit slots.

I'm so excited for Mjollnir.

I'll probably merit Realmrazer though. IMO, if I'm going to have a relic, I might as well use it the best I can.

I was completely wrong about realmrazer. My hexastrike's don’t even come close now. I’m pushing 3500~ closest i've seen my hexa do was 2936. Are we sure they didn’t undo the nerf? Pretty redonkulous but awesome at the same time. Anybody else seeing this? O.o