AF3+2 5/5 - What Is Your Proc Rate?

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 Bahamut.Zoltar
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By Bahamut.Zoltar 2011-02-10 13:46:53  
For those of you that are 5/5 on your +2 gearsets, what is your estimated process rate on your gear's set: ability?
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By Sylph.Biginallways 2011-02-10 16:04:55  
bump, i'm interested
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By Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone 2011-02-10 16:10:59  
Funny. I thought it was Empyrean Armor, not AF3. I got some Moogle Storage Slips for Empyrean Armor (and +1) and Relic. None of them say AF3, AF3+1 or AF2...
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By Sekaran 2011-02-10 16:11:02  
I'm 5/5 on BLM AF3+2.. but I can't seem to get Conserve MP to kick in all that often. I think I've only seen 1 or 2 instances the past few days. Pretty much doubles damage though.

Maybe I need to toss in a few more Conserve MP pieces.. /shrug.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-02-10 16:12:02  
I'd have to put 5/5THF+2 around 5~7%.

Its lovely <3

(edit: 5-7% on Triple Attacks, So inside abyssea with 35%~ Triple Attack its closer to say... 2-3% Adjusted... But 5-7% on Triple)
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2011-02-10 16:13:07  
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said:
Funny. I thought it was Empyrean Armor, not AF3. I got some Moogle Storage Slips for Empyrean Armor (and +1) and Relic. None of them say AF3, AF3+1 or AF2...

People like you are just the worst type of person. AF3 is a lot shorter then empyrean. Empyrean is generally the word used for the weapons, and relic is the same. And you know damn well what they meant, your just acting like an *** cake for no reason.
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-02-10 16:14:42  
Asura.Karbuncle said:
I'd have to put 5/5THF+2 around 5~7%.

Its lovely <3

(edit: 5-7% on Triple Attacks, So inside abyssea with 35%~ Triple Attack its closer to say... 2-3% Adjusted... But 5-7% on Triple)
Black mages is around the same rate (5%~7%)
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-02-10 16:14:47  
nb4 relic vs artifact vs emperian jargon debate
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By Sylph.Biginallways 2011-02-10 17:09:15  
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said:
Funny. I thought it was Empyrean Armor, not AF3. I got some Moogle Storage Slips for Empyrean Armor (and +1) and Relic. None of them say AF3, AF3+1 or AF2...

The only thing worse than a troll my friend is a gimp troll. You fit the profile. /stagger

ninja edit: Nevermind, your character name makes perfect sense.
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By Sylph.Xolo 2011-02-10 17:14:00  
BLM 5/5 around 5% but not dont much testing
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-10 17:15:30  
I don't have 5/5 but with 2 it took 86ish cast to get 1 proc on blu af3+2 so I'd venture it is probably 8-10% on full set not like any 2 peices are good for the same spell... which means it's pretty much worthless especially considering how often you cast vs triple attack and such
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By Ifrit.Doebie 2011-02-10 17:24:56  
I don't really watch for it or anything but with MNK 5/5 +2 the 2nd kick is rare. I would say 5% sounds about right, but thats a very rough estimate.
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By Bismarck.Shyral 2011-02-10 17:32:00  
Would agree about 5/5 MNK. Not common at all, I've seen it proc a few times. If all the sets proc the same, then there is a thread on the WAR forums where someone has posted some tests of WAR +2 set proc rate. The sample set may have been fairly small though.
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By Asura.Solara 2011-02-10 17:42:08  
Eijin tested the War set here, looks to be 3-4% with 4/5.

No numbers on 5/5, but there's never an excuse to wear 5/5 on War, so nothing of value was lost.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone 2011-02-10 18:28:46  
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AF3 is a lot shorter then empyrean.

EA is shorter.

Also, I apologize for seeming trollish. Just caught me in one of those moods.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-02-10 19:11:49  
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said:
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AF3 is a lot shorter then empyrean.

EA is shorter.

Also, I apologize for seeming trollish. Just caught me in one of those moods.


if im not mistaken @ vanafest 2010 they coined the term "AF3" there, when they announced the abyssea expansions. iirc it was from their info feed that was on the website. but what i can confirm is that you like to EA+2 all day. and by EA i mean

you Eat ***.

its k guys, i told him.
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By Ramuh.Kyamiiux 2011-02-10 19:27:20  
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said:
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AF3 is a lot shorter then empyrean.

EA is shorter.

Also, I apologize for seeming trollish. Just caught me in one of those moods.

Actually EMP makes sense. Wtf is EA? EA games?
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-02-10 19:36:43  
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said:
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AF3 is a lot shorter then empyrean.

EA is shorter.

Also, I apologize for seeming trollish. Just caught me in one of those moods.


if im not mistaken @ vanafest 2010 they coined the term "AF3" there, when they announced the abyssea expansions. iirc it was from their info feed that was on the website. but what i can confirm is that you like to EA+2 all day. and by EA i mean

you Eat ***.

its k guys, i told him.

I'm pretty sure in one of those "Letters to the community" they described it as "...The new armor players have deemed "AF3""

Then again I missed Vanafest and the Letters people could be mistaken too :P
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2011-02-10 19:37:14  
Sekaran said:
I'm 5/5 on BLM AF3+2.. but I can't seem to get Conserve MP to kick in all that often. I think I've only seen 1 or 2 instances the past few days. Pretty much doubles damage though.

Maybe I need to toss in a few more Conserve MP pieces.. /shrug.

You just didn't notice it. Conserve mp is 25% base proc rate. Just cuz you got a Conserve mp proc doesn't mean you get a set proc too. In my calculations each conserve mp +1 raises your average dmg bei 0,1%. Not worth it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone 2011-02-10 19:39:05  
Fairy.Ghaleon said:

if im not mistaken @ vanafest 2010 they coined the term "AF3" there, when they announced the abyssea expansions. iirc it was from their info feed that was on the website.

Yes, you are correct there. It is definitely on the English twitter feed.

Wow. I didn't expect such aggressive shots from people. Again, I apologize. Especially to the OP for interrupting his thread.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-02-10 19:47:49  
I feel sorry for samurai.... zanshin..... shafted
 
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By Bahamut.Zoltar 2011-02-10 20:40:51  
Thx for the input so far all, just finished 5/5 bst so I'll test tonite on my magian trials
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-10 20:43:54  
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Sekaran said:
I'm 5/5 on BLM AF3+2.. but I can't seem to get Conserve MP to kick in all that often. I think I've only seen 1 or 2 instances the past few days. Pretty much doubles damage though. Maybe I need to toss in a few more Conserve MP pieces.. /shrug.
You just didn't notice it. Conserve mp is 25% base proc rate. Just cuz you got a Conserve mp proc doesn't mean you get a set proc too. In my calculations each conserve mp +1 raises your average dmg bei 0,1%. Not worth it.
Gearing for no. But it might make Atma of the Blinding Horn somewhat worthwhile when thunder V comes out. At least if you don't have one of the 50 MAB ones.

Or maybe even Atma of the Fetching Footpad
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2011-02-10 20:47:08  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Sekaran said:
I'm 5/5 on BLM AF3+2.. but I can't seem to get Conserve MP to kick in all that often. I think I've only seen 1 or 2 instances the past few days. Pretty much doubles damage though. Maybe I need to toss in a few more Conserve MP pieces.. /shrug.
You just didn't notice it. Conserve mp is 25% base proc rate. Just cuz you got a Conserve mp proc doesn't mean you get a set proc too. In my calculations each conserve mp +1 raises your average dmg bei 0,1%. Not worth it.
Gearing for no. But it might make atma of the undying somewhat worthwhile. At least if you don't have one of the 50 MAB ones

Even then that atma wouldn't win damage wise imo. Even if thats like superior conserve mp. Lets say it gave 50. That is 10% more proc rate for set bonus. Average damage boost is 50%. 10%*50*=5% average damage increase. Idk :/ Would be nice for the occasionally high numbers and good for mp .. but well.. meh
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-10 20:48:49  
Sorry I picked the wrong one I edited the atmas. Also conserve mp isn't just about the dmg. It might allow you to get away with say not using MM.
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2011-02-10 21:16:08  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Sorry I picked the wrong one I edited the atmas. Also conserve mp isn't just about the dmg. It might allow you to get away with say not using MM.

Idk, it is prolly just 10 conserve mp if its minor but I guess we can hope. If it's 50 conserve mp for fetching footpad then you should have around 75 conserve mp. That is like 22% less mp cost in average if i'm not wrong. I really doubt that will make up for the loss of 10 refresh :/. Not to forget you lose 50 int in damage too aaand enmity!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-02-10 21:34:54  
Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
I feel sorry for samurai.... zanshin..... shafted
Whiff moar!
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-02-10 22:18:09  
I don't think proc-rates on any AF3 are worth aiming for. If you're already using a couple pieces of +2 for certain spells/ws/whatever, and it's not going to effect that spell much by putting on one or two more, then *maybe* it'd be worth it...

But probably not.
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By Lakshmi.Sake 2011-02-10 22:42:46  
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Sekaran said:
I'm 5/5 on BLM AF3+2.. but I can't seem to get Conserve MP to kick in all that often. I think I've only seen 1 or 2 instances the past few days. Pretty much doubles damage though.

Maybe I need to toss in a few more Conserve MP pieces.. /shrug.

You just didn't notice it. Conserve mp is 25% base proc rate. Just cuz you got a Conserve mp proc doesn't mean you get a set proc too. In my calculations each conserve mp +1 raises your average dmg bei 0,1%. Not worth it.

Ah, you're right. I forgot that just because conserve mp procs doesn't automatically mean the set procs too.
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