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 Unicorn.Marrs
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:35:30  
In fact if anything being able to put out good magic dmg with decent melee dmg is another good thing for blu as it makes it more versatile, I hope for your sake all your reasons to hate blu aren't actually reasons to like'em, like that one.
 
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:36:53  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Asura.Buddhsie said:
It's more that blue mage can change to become a specialist in any aspect.

No, and you almost made me write an argument over that line right there.

God forbid you make a structured argument lol? Blowdryer.

Cmon lets be constructive thread.
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2011-01-10 06:37:49  
As for blu sword damage, I've found that since getting the Empyrean WS, I've switched to dealing most of my damage through sword swings, with spells becoming more secondary damage (Using RR/VV/MM atmas with Badelaire +2 and Antea +2 2-4 hit on sub). The beauty of it is that you can control where and when you want your damage depending on the situation.
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By Luz 2011-01-10 06:38:23  
I think if anything BLU lost versatility in Abyssea compared to pre-Abyssea. Unless you're mixing your atmas to benefit both physical and magical spells. I don't know much about BLU though.
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By Caitsith.Marleysativa 2011-01-10 06:38:29  
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What context OP? For most of what I do it's always MNK, WHM, BLM, THF.
Depends on the people you do stuff with really.


My point is these can all be part of the equation to decide as well, for example another 1 - 10 category could be necessity to a party/alliance/duo partner etc.

Like I said, I realize this is a complex question.

Which blu would actually do good in as well, being that it could heal a partner is well. Seems like blu is doing fairly well in this thread no?

This just out of curiosity on your part or just trying to mimic the DD hierarchy BG thread? If it's just curiosity I wouldn't know where to start. Don't think that my views on BLU are purely negative either.
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By Phoenix.Ingraham 2011-01-10 06:39:15  
imo PLD/DRK

pros:

wields the power of light and darkness
-DRK gives PLD a much needed attack boost, making it balanced
-can heal itself
-can do damage
-wields the power of all the elements thanks to DRK nukes

cons:

-pld wears dumb holy armor. spikes and black armor ftw ROFL
-holy isn't as strong as i thought it would be
-can't sneak/invis yourself (which is why you always demand it from mages)






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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:39:21  
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Unicorn.Marrs said:
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Lol, it's just that I hear it all the time. Most BLUs are horribad. While I know 2-3 pretty good ones, they don't have a specialized role and that hurts them. Maybe when we finish Chant for one of ours my opinion might change (DD-wise), but for now they seem to be of limited use.


You forgot the part where most of the DD damage of a BLU comes from spells and not swordchucks. I am sure VV would help offset that a good amount though.

Whats the big deal if its magic based or not? Dmg output is dmg output. Sure some mobs are resistant to magic, but others can be easily susceptible and/or even strong against physical dmg.

With knowledge of the job that question would not be necessary.

Inb4someoneturnsthatonmeinsomeway

They can't turn it on you cause its not a valid point lol, there is nothing to "turn" you just keep saying things, without any support to any of your claims whatsoever. I don't know if you think we all believe you to be some sort of authority on matters and thus we should believe you or what, even if you're right, you realize claims still need support right?... Otherwise I recommend a sort of debate class for you.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-10 06:40:14  
I'd say thf is one of the most useful jobs currently. It is very similar to monk in terms of tanking ability, and only falls a bit behind mnk/nin/war on the DD scale (when properly geared and atma'd) and on top of all that you get TH, enmity control, and a few yellow procs with /nin.
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2011-01-10 06:40:34  
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Caitsith.Marleysativa said:
Lol, it's just that I hear it all the time. Most BLUs are horribad. While I know 2-3 pretty good ones, they don't have a specialized role and that hurts them. Maybe when we finish Chant for one of ours my opinion might change (DD-wise), but for now they seem to be of limited use.
You forgot the part where most of the DD damage of a BLU comes from spells and not swordchucks. I am sure VV would help offset that a good amount though.
Whats the big deal if its magic based or not? Dmg output is dmg output. Sure some mobs are resistant to magic, but others can be easily susceptible and/or even strong against physical dmg.
With knowledge of the job that question would not be necessary. Inb4someoneturnsthatonmeinsomeway
They can't turn it on you cause its not a valid point lol, there is nothing to "turn" you just keep saying things, without any support to any of your claims whatsoever. I don't know if you think we all believe you to be some sort of authority on matters and thus we should believe you or what, even if you're right, you realize claims still need support right?... Otherwise I recommend a sort of debate class for you.

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I'd disregard Spicyryan's posts altogether :s
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:42:16  
Caitsith.Marleysativa said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Caitsith.Marleysativa said:
What context OP? For most of what I do it's always MNK, WHM, BLM, THF.
Depends on the people you do stuff with really.


My point is these can all be part of the equation to decide as well, for example another 1 - 10 category could be necessity to a party/alliance/duo partner etc.

Like I said, I realize this is a complex question.

Which blu would actually do good in as well, being that it could heal a partner is well. Seems like blu is doing fairly well in this thread no?

This just out of curiosity on your part or just trying to mimic the DD hierarchy BG thread? If it's just curiosity I wouldn't know where to start. Don't think that my views on BLU are purely negative either.

I haven't visited BG forums in forever. But curiousity. I don't have blu unlocked as well it might be worth noting. My onry jobs are PLD RDM BLM. BLM being main.
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:42:42  
Asura.Buddhsie said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Caitsith.Marleysativa said:
Lol, it's just that I hear it all the time. Most BLUs are horribad. While I know 2-3 pretty good ones, they don't have a specialized role and that hurts them. Maybe when we finish Chant for one of ours my opinion might change (DD-wise), but for now they seem to be of limited use.
You forgot the part where most of the DD damage of a BLU comes from spells and not swordchucks. I am sure VV would help offset that a good amount though.
Whats the big deal if its magic based or not? Dmg output is dmg output. Sure some mobs are resistant to magic, but others can be easily susceptible and/or even strong against physical dmg.
With knowledge of the job that question would not be necessary. Inb4someoneturnsthatonmeinsomeway
They can't turn it on you cause its not a valid point lol, there is nothing to "turn" you just keep saying things, without any support to any of your claims whatsoever. I don't know if you think we all believe you to be some sort of authority on matters and thus we should believe you or what, even if you're right, you realize claims still need support right?... Otherwise I recommend a sort of debate class for you.

^

I'd disregard Spicyryan's posts altogether :s

Yea I think so...
 
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By Luz 2011-01-10 06:45:05  
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Asura.Buddhsie said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Caitsith.Marleysativa said:
Lol, it's just that I hear it all the time. Most BLUs are horribad. While I know 2-3 pretty good ones, they don't have a specialized role and that hurts them. Maybe when we finish Chant for one of ours my opinion might change (DD-wise), but for now they seem to be of limited use.
You forgot the part where most of the DD damage of a BLU comes from spells and not swordchucks. I am sure VV would help offset that a good amount though.
Whats the big deal if its magic based or not? Dmg output is dmg output. Sure some mobs are resistant to magic, but others can be easily susceptible and/or even strong against physical dmg.
With knowledge of the job that question would not be necessary. Inb4someoneturnsthatonmeinsomeway
They can't turn it on you cause its not a valid point lol, there is nothing to "turn" you just keep saying things, without any support to any of your claims whatsoever. I don't know if you think we all believe you to be some sort of authority on matters and thus we should believe you or what, even if you're right, you realize claims still need support right?... Otherwise I recommend a sort of debate class for you.

^

I'd disregard Spicyryan's posts altogether :s

Yea I think so...
He only makes posts he thinks are cool so yeah xD

I second what Buddhsie said.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-10 06:46:39  
Do you have a 2nd account or something cause I see you only have 75s so im not even sure if you have been in abyssea.
 
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2011-01-10 06:47:33  
Not to say that my jobs are all the most useful lol but DNC is pretty nice too.. although it's a little bit fruity, and a massive bandwagon job now. It can tank, DD, heal and adds support to a party.. The only problem with it being it has no unique qualities that justify it being in an alliance/party in abyssea. It's more of a novelty/solo job.
 
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-10 06:50:15  
Im almost 100% sure you just love to troll the ***out of people, lol.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-10 06:51:06  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
I am just a Pchan now.

*screenshot*
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By Luz 2011-01-10 06:52:24  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
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I'd hate to be that guy but..

I'm not sure id really listen to someone using Lava/Kusha rings. At any point in time.

Cool story. Glad I do not use them on THF or BLU anymore.
Cool meme use, that you ever camped them is still funny :D
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-10 06:53:09  
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THFs on average are the shittiest geared and most inexperienced bunch of gimp noobs I tend to see.

This 1000 times.

I rage every time I see full pink thieves, and other such nonsense.

I think what made me rage the most was seeing an 85 twashtar on one...

edit: oh wait, that thief was wearing a denali bonnet, not pink.
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By Caitsith.Marleysativa 2011-01-10 06:54:08  
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Caitsith.Marleysativa said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Caitsith.Marleysativa said:
What context OP? For most of what I do it's always MNK, WHM, BLM, THF.
Depends on the people you do stuff with really.


My point is these can all be part of the equation to decide as well, for example another 1 - 10 category could be necessity to a party/alliance/duo partner etc.

Like I said, I realize this is a complex question.

Which blu would actually do good in as well, being that it could heal a partner is well. Seems like blu is doing fairly well in this thread no?

This just out of curiosity on your part or just trying to mimic the DD hierarchy BG thread? If it's just curiosity I wouldn't know where to start. Don't think that my views on BLU are purely negative either.

I haven't visited BG forums in forever. But curiousity. I don't have blu unlocked as well it might be worth noting. My onry jobs are PLD RDM BLM. BLM being main.

PLD has no use anymore to be honest, so there's a start. Since they've added atmas RDM and BLM nuking is somewhat on par with melees. BLM is a really good grellow trigger job. My friend is basically permanently BLM, while the other is WHM.

Also, calling *** on Spicey and not Buddhsie is kinda lame. He's right that they (BLU) can cover different tasks, but they will NEVER beat out one of the specialists.
 
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-10 07:02:16  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Luz said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
I'd hate to be that guy but..

I'm not sure id really listen to someone using Lava/Kusha rings. At any point in time.

Cool story. Glad I do not use them on THF or BLU anymore.
Cool meme use, that you ever camped them is still funny :D

They were good at 75 when directly compaired to snipers/rajas and I made sure of it before I spent the time. Do I need to go dig up the threads from when they just came out?

It is not like I was like Bart's DRG and used them. Then you have a case.

Actually, yes, could you please pull them up? Every thread I read up on said Rajas and an acc ring will out do them.
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