Best Job?

It makes me treasure his posts that are clear, well thought out and sensible so much more, though.

Just speaking from a warrior's point of view, +12% haste in leg/feet where you only had +8% tops (with haidate/dusk+1) is totally a small upgrade. Capping gear haste on Warrior is so overrated.

Also, everyone knows the +0% haste you get from Ares's gear in those slots is superior in every way.

Edit: While I'm here, +14acc/8str/3%crit/4DA on your head is also totally wasted for WS. Not like Warrior has crit weapon skills or anything.

And who needs 26.3 accuracy/attack on a body? Or Store TP to balance the 488 delay on some axes? Or 60 seconds of Blood Rage?

OPEN YOUR EYES DUMBASSES, AF3+2 IS A SHAM

Edit 2: A million ***, please choke on them

Does he even play anymore? lol

According to other posts, no, but I don't give a ***. I likah da trolling, and I like yelling on forums. 'Sides, someones gotta feed the trolls here! By my shotglass and Captain Morgan, I WILL REPLY TO TROLL POSTS A DAY LATE!

Turban, dusk+1, byakko, dusk+1, twilight, torque = 25% haste dumbass. You don't get more haste. even with speed belt it's 24% haste. And with acubens it's 25%.

Nope you didn't get more haste (well YOU did, cos you were a gimp)


THF capped, mnk capped, war capped, rdm capped, whm capped, pup capped, drk capped and so on. You can probably find a fail job that didn't cap though, I trust you.

Twilight...Belt? The one WAR can't wear? Oh man, you sure showed me. How about the game exists without white boxes everywhere and you're just butthurt because those HQ items don't really mean ***when I can cap haste without them?

Aww, poor wittle Pimpchan has to troll XI forums after quitting and running his mouth about ***he doesn't know about. :(

How about Turban, Bullwhip, +2 Legs, +2 Feet, Swift? Aw man, I just shat all over your white boxes without spending ANY GIL AT ALL. Shame on me. :((((

Edit: Oops, that's only 25%, not 26%. I guess a couple hundred k for Blitz is gimp compared to old millions for dusk+1.

Edit 2: What the *** torque are you talking about has 1% haste for Warrior?

Bored troll edit: WAR CAPS HASTE WITH TURBAN BLACK BELT CIRQUE SASH AND TIERCEL NECKLACE NO DUH YOU GIMP. Who does research, or for that matter, even looks at the gear they're quoting, these days? BUNCHA NUBS.

Yep, too lazy to even look at different slots before slapping together a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE response. Works for Pimpchan, amirite? If it ain't outdated whiteboxes, it doesn't count!

acc not needed, plus war is THE job that doesn't need attack. Even BEFORE beserrk with Dia3 and ~100 attack food your attack is overkill. Knowing elementary game mechanics help gauging gear, something you can't. Want me to "math" it ?

So what IS the best War body? Ares's surely isn't because there's no need for that much attack, right? And adaberk was ***, considering no one needs those stats. We can all just use +100 attack food and not even need HQ anything!

Edit: Also, lol @ war not even needing berserk. I guess WAR is the best job and we can end the discussion because they don't need ACC, ATK or even JAs to do the job!

Even MORE EDITS~!: Yes, please "math" how Warrior needs no accuracy, attack or berserk to cap damage on everything that exists. Outside of Salvage, if you can.

Oh wait.

People still merit dia III? That's news to me and I read pretty much all the rdm related threads

Man, I've got like 50 edits going on here.

I forgot Dusk+1 feet enhance Retaliation and increase Crit damage.

I forgot Dusk+1 hands enhance Restraint, not that THAT particular JA is impressive in its own right.

I forgot that War can equip Twilight belt. Oh wait.

I suppose Tiercel necklace, which war cannot equip mind you, is superior to Blitz Ring + Ravager's Gorget. Not like War needs accuracy OR attack.

I forgot that Pimpchan quit the game and has no clue what the *** he is talking about, hence the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE gear suggestion. :(

I forgot

Anyway, that's enough for me for tonight, barring further trolling posts. Thread's closed, people, War is the supreme DD.

Don't see why you wouldn't unless you only do mage-oriented stuff with your RDM.

Well Bio3 is pretty bad these days (though I still have mine), Phalanx2 is pretty useless, Blind2 is still meh... leaving Slow2/Para2/Dia3. Given how little each subsequent merit improves Slow2/Para2 compared to the first, may as well have at least 2 Dia3 in my opinion. Helps a lot on lame stuff like Rani.

I think people still under sell how useful blind 2 is. It was only meh in the first place because anything worth fighting was capping acc on you anyways so no one evasion tanked.

It's been working out swimmingly for me.

And while each upgrade on slow/para is only a little bit... you could also argue the difference between dia2 and dia 3 is also slight... for a decent amount of mp and lol duration unless you actually put several merits in it

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Kurayami:_Ni :(

though I suppose it's useful if you're doing it with a THF or MNK.

Lol doing it with hehe. That being said I land blind II much better than the nins land kurayami... then again they don't switch out to staffs :). I will say this though the nin I do roll with says he notices the difference when I blind it vs him doing it. And I notice I didn't have to cure his *** as much.

Plus have you seen how many nins run around with no tools but shihei!?! It's rediculous. Seriously most the time it's up to me to do the nin procs on blu or thf...

Kurayami: Ni is -30 acc(static) and Blind II caps at -30 acc <_< should be exactly the same.

Dia3 over Dia2 is -5% more enemy Def and since it is more effective reducing enemy defence than increasing your attack, you're increasing every DD's damage by >5% (assuming attack uncapped). Pretty powerful!

Oh I know wiki says they are the same... but wiki also has a formula that doesn't even take into account merits for the blind on it.

Combine with the whole how many people actually meritted it before and the fact that slow/para 2 are much more potent than nin... and well why make a merit spell that is inherently at best on par with a lvl 44 spell.

Unfortunately I'm not as well read on how to go about testing -acc but just saying personal experience shows otherwise. Could've been luck each time... but mines all bad :)

Plus wiki is far from infallible even on really old stuff... like look at fint caps *cough*

Someone give him his pills. You first started with saying war get at least 4% more haste than 75 gear and you ended up saying the same thing as me : you didn't get more haste and since attack aand acc are worthless you get onlu stuff that increase JA or other dumb ***.

Or : read what I said ? Where did I say it is not the best body ? I said it's a sidegrade from previous gear.

AF3+2
[Body] All Races
DEF:68 Accuracy+20 Attack+20 Great Axe skill +7 "Store TP"+8 Enhances "Blood Rage" effect Set: Augments "Double Attack"
LV 89 WAR

Enhances blood rage : enhances a JA that is about as useful as warcry. You make an epeen WS once every new moon at the cost of 2 second delay for using the JA in the first place. And the stat on the body does a sidegrade in damage to that. This body is potentially a few % increase in overall damage at best. It's not impressive in any way.


What would you use if you were still 75 ? Askar ™. 2% DA vs enhances dumb ***.

War AF3+2 enables war to get a viable 5 hit build, that alone puts it head and shoulders above anything that was previously available.

It's only a sidegrade if you don't gear properly. And if you can't gear properly, chances are you weren't gearing ideally @ 75 either, so it's a huge upgrade either way. Also, War can't wear twilight belt or acubens helm, but can wear a blitz ring. And true cap requires 26% Haste.

Double post fail.

Askar body too, and it's not the only body nor piece of gear that allows this.

Don't be mean to Pimpchan, she's out of the loop because she quit to play XIV.

Also sammich.

But you always told us that Nyzul Isle was useless and a waste of time Pchan!

..Or you could look at what Blood Rage does, what the enhancement does, and remove your foot from your mouth! Who needs 60 seconds of enhanced crit rates and damage for everyone in your party?

With haste, marches and a hit build, that's a weaponskill every eightish seconds? For a full minute? Yes, as useful as warcry. Right on.

Do your *** research before you try to talk down to me, because you're pretty clueless about WAR's gear and ability. Still waiting on that math where we don't need berserk or attack gear, also.

askar korazin
ravager's lorica +2
WAR AF3 has hachiryu-level bonuses, enhances blood rage, and store tp +8. I don't see that being "marginal".

NIN-wise....
Walahra turban
vs
iga zukin +2

haubergeon +1
vs
iga ningi +2

Byakko's haidate
vs
iga hakama +2

usukane sune-ate
vs
iga kyahan +2

also, Gimpchan is a she?That is all.

edit: WAR-wise.
hecatomb cap
vs
ravager's mask +2

aurum cuirass
vs
ravager's lorica +2

Byakko's haidate
vs
ravager's cuisses +2

aurum sabatons
vs
ravager's calligae +2

Allow me. Ahem.

GIMP THOSE AREN'T DUSK+1.

Right, Pchan?

Edit: See, the key is to ignore the valid points of the argument, select one thing and attack it with the full force of an asspained quit player who thinks old whiteboxes are better than new blueboxes.

Iga feet may be the better Utsu/Jin piece, but Usu are still generally better TP feet if you've got head/legs +2. Not to say they aren't awesome feet though.

Only with Dusk hands +1.
edit: or marches

What do Marches have to do with Usu being better? Marches would favor Iga +2 if you don't have Dusk +1 since you're not quite at the gear haste cap with Usu and haste+3 hands. And I was actually comparing the numbers with Haste only... and Ocelot Gloves. Who knew?

The only reason I said generally is because you'd probably TP in full AF3 for a high-acc set.