DRK Suggestions:we're In Ur Game Balancin Ur Dudes

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 Bahamut.Zorander
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-06-14 15:41:58  
Ok so I didnt read the whole thread..but imma steal it for a few.

I've been thinking about doing Caladblog..is it worth it? Am I wasting my time? I know ppl are gunna tell me to do Ukon and I will but with the last resort update I'd imagine drk is pretty sweet now. (can you tell how much I play drk?!)

How does Caladblog hold up in/out of abyssea..I know the info is out there some where but I was just curious.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-14 15:42:32  
Cala, Cala, Cala, Cala, Apoc
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-14 15:43:41  
Caladbolg >>> Liberator >>> Redemption >>> Ragnarok (Rag beats Caladbolg in some situations and definatley shits all over Apoc)
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-06-14 15:44:24  
Gold Algol!

Ish le pimp.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-06-14 15:44:26  
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
BorealisV2 said:
Great Sword > Scythe. Deal with it.
Sometimes....
if have caladbolg...all the time

You could make redemption for the 29.9% of the time that last resort is down on the ...... 5% of enemies you could maybe ever possibly encounter who the %defense down would be relevant for (while last resort was down ofc).
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-06-14 15:46:04  
Odin.Sheelay said:
BorealisV2 said:
Deal with it.

lol I feel this is an appropriate time for...

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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-06-14 15:54:56  
liberator is better than apoc?
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By Ragnarok.Beef 2011-06-14 15:55:02  
if drk gets crit guillotine, isn't there a high chance that they could 1 shot themselves using souleater?

doing 4k,5k raging rush with only 3 hits on warrior. i can't imagine what guillotine would do or insurgency souleater'd.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-14 15:56:41  
Ragnarok.Beef said:
if drk gets crit guillotine, isn't there a high chance that they could 1 shot themselves using souleater?

doing 4k,5k raging rush with only 3 hits on warrior. i can't imagine what guillotine would do or insurgency souleater'd.

Stalwart Soul says hi

And please, if you have to turn a WS to crit, let it not be Guillo. Been using it since lvl 60, come on!!!
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-14 15:57:26  
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?

It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2011-06-14 16:01:20  
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?

It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
I thought you had a lvl 90 apoc.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-14 16:03:23  
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?

It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
I thought you had a lvl 90 apoc.

My Alt does, Mankey sup.

Edit:

I'm fully gearing 2 different DRK accounts, call me crazy I love the job :P
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-06-14 16:16:17  
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?

It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
I thought you had a lvl 90 apoc.

My Alt does, Mankey sup.

Edit:

I'm fully gearing 2 different DRK accounts, call me crazy I love the job :P

I think you're stupid!
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-06-14 16:21:40  
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?
It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
I thought you had a lvl 90 apoc.
My Alt does, Mankey sup. Edit: I'm fully gearing 2 different DRK accounts, call me crazy I love the job :P

What's the point of that o_O?
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-14 16:25:15  
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?
It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
I thought you had a lvl 90 apoc.
My Alt does, Mankey sup. Edit: I'm fully gearing 2 different DRK accounts, call me crazy I love the job :P

What's the point of that o_O?

Friend Semi-quit gave me his account to use, its not hard to get gear anyways so might as well? lol
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-06-14 16:28:53  
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?
It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
I thought you had a lvl 90 apoc.
My Alt does, Mankey sup. Edit: I'm fully gearing 2 different DRK accounts, call me crazy I love the job :P

What's the point of that o_O?

Friend Semi-quit gave me his account to use, its not hard to get gear anyways so might as well? lol

Mankey quit?! ;_; no wonder why I haven't heard from him in awhile.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-14 16:40:25  
Bahamut.Serj said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Phoenix.Fondue said:
liberator is better than apoc?
It parsed on par with Apoc at 75 without capped haste, now that you can rock capped haste, it definatley shits all over Apoc. I know Kirschy prefers hers over Apoc now the last I spoke with her.
I thought you had a lvl 90 apoc.
My Alt does, Mankey sup. Edit: I'm fully gearing 2 different DRK accounts, call me crazy I love the job :P

What's the point of that o_O?

Friend Semi-quit gave me his account to use, its not hard to get gear anyways so might as well? lol

Mankey quit?! ;_; no wonder why I haven't heard from him in awhile.

Hes been super busy w/ work so doesnt play much at all anymore if any :(
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2011-06-14 16:52:10  
Yall should listen to Gradd about DRK >.> He knows what hes talking about and Apoc is by far the worse "relic/mythic/emp" DRK can use atm. I personally think Rag will be #1 come 99.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-14 18:36:43  
Apoc is great for survivability with a 5-hit /SAM or a 6-hit /NIN, but that's it... and with how little can easily kill you these days aside from 1shots, that's not an especially compelling point right now. Maybe useful for Voidwatch, dunno, haven't bothered with it yet.

Bahamut.Zorander said:
Ok so I didnt read the whole thread..but imma steal it for a few.

I've been thinking about doing Caladblog..is it worth it? Am I wasting my time? I know ppl are gunna tell me to do Ukon and I will but with the last resort update I'd imagine drk is pretty sweet now. (can you tell how much I play drk?!)

How does Caladblog hold up in/out of abyssea..I know the info is out there some where but I was just curious.
It really depends. Marches and fulltime Hasso benefit other 2handers moreso than DRK now, but by the same token 15-25% more haste in situations where you're without a BRD is pretty *** crazy and you lose less from sacrificing /SAM Store TP due to a higher x-hit. If you can ride Souleater for full duration, better still.

I don't see it outparsing WAR/MNK/DRG/NIN in Abyssea. You might give my Kannagi a run for its money vs high-level Heroes NMs if you can /SAM and ride Hasso when LR is down. However, if you can do that I can ride Innin and still have a decent lead.

Outside Abyssea I could see it giving Ukon and Masa a run for their money in high buff situations. WAR v DRK would depend on how well the WAR can take advantage of Retaliation.
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By Phoenix.Gamm 2011-10-07 15:21:32  
don't know if i agree at all with this thread.
For 1 i use Scythe and put out good numbers, not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but A-.
Im using Absolution +3 and i stack a ***load of double attack with my Guillotine average anywhere from 1.4-2.9. ive hit a 3245 this is all outside of abyss
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-10-10 12:57:13  
Phoenix.Gamm said: »
don't know if i agree at all with this thread. For 1 i use Scythe and put out good numbers, not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but A-. Im using Absolution +3 and i stack a ***load of double attack with my Guillotine average anywhere from 1.4-2.9. ive hit a 3245 this is all outside of abyss


Nice Necro but yeah most of this tread is poorly mathed out. Esp for 95.

Apoc,Rag,Lib are DRKs top weapons now. All situationally better then the other. If you had to pick one weapon for DRK you'd be a fool not to pick Apoc.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2011-10-11 12:56:07  
This thread is the reason im leveling DRK :D
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