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 Fairy.Spence
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-12-30 12:14:49  
Time is all relative to the individual.
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By mehtastic 2010-12-30 12:16:29  
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
She didn't throw the ball in the first place because it's a what if :P
So, basically my rant stands.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 12:35:41  
mehtastic said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
She didn't throw the ball in the first place because it's a what if :P
So, basically my rant stands.

Vinvv got it lol
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-12-30 12:42:50  
Mabrook's post makes my head hurt.
 
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-12-30 12:57:48  
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That hasn't been proven and I wonder if gravity even exists there.

I don't disagree that Jupiter does not have gravity, but I think the laws of gravity are not the same for every planet as that would imply every planet has the same metallic resources and atmosphere as Earth does and we all know that isn't true.

The universe does not have gravity because there is no metallic pressure and/or no atmosphere (cage) to maintain this pressure equally within that planet or the universe.

Which also proves how the universe is forever growing and not a controlled plane.

The gravitational force is just the attractive force between two objects with mass. Any one object with mass exerts an attractive gravitational force on another object with mass, so by definition Jupiter must "have gravity" due to it having mass.

The universe expands rather than collapsing into a singularity not because there isn't an overall centre of mass (and hence a gravitational attraction) but because the outward acceleration of planets (supposedly given by the Big Bang) is greater than the acceleration due to gravity caused by the centre of mass (F=ma, Newton's second law).

Or so I understand!
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-30 13:27:45  
I wish Pluto was still a planet ;;
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2010-12-30 13:38:10  
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
I wish Pluto was still a planet ;;

There should be a planet call Punana!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-12-30 13:38:25  
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
I wish Pluto was still a planet ;;
lol
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-12-30 13:38:31  
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That theory would imply there is a constant force upholding the universe from it's center; the universe is indefinite with no gravity so a center and a end is impossible because gravity is consistent with distance and mass.

Also, it would imply Jupiter has a center of gravitational pull and a definite atmosphere to hold said gravity within that planet which again has not been proven for Jupiter yet.

A centre of mass exists for any system of masses. The universe is just a huge system of masses.

Jupiter has a "centre of gravitational pull" because it has a mass. Atmospheres tend to be the result of a large enough mass.

The difficulty with gravity is that people attribute it to things in everyday life, saying things like "the Earth's gravity" or "the Moon's gravity", when what they actually mean is "the gravitational force experienced by an object on the Earth's surface due to the Earth's mass". Using that more precise definition, there is no need to "hold gravity" or anything, simply because Jupiter has a mass and hence exerts an attractive gravitational force on other objects with mass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-30 13:48:10  
Bismarck.Angeleus said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
I wish Pluto was still a planet ;;

There should be a planet call Punana!
it would be populated by mithra.
 
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-12-30 14:02:31  
Don't forget that there's Dark Energy and Dark Matter etc.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-12-30 14:08:15  
Larger masses DO cause a stronger "gravitational pull".

The formula is

F = - (G * mass1 * mass2) / (displacement^2)

Negative sign because always attractive and all quantities involved are positive. F = Force, G is the Gravitational Constant, mass1 and mass2 are the two masses you are calculating the gravitational force between and the displacement is the distance between them (often denoted as r^2 since it's radial).

The universe does have a gravitational pull due to its collective centre of mass, it just doesn't exceed the acceleration due to the "Big Bang" or whatever which causes planets to move away from the "origin" so they move outwards rather than towards the centre of mass.

Indeed, there is a theoretical "big crunch" where the critical mass of the universe (the mass at which the outward acceleration and the acceleration due to the centre of gravity) is exceeded, and all will ... well, for want of a better term, go splat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_Law

Look up the "ultimate fate of the universe section" in particular. There are three possibilities to expansion: open universe, which it is thought we are currently in now, where (mass of universe) < (critical mass) and we continue to expand, a static universe where they are equal, and then the big crunch.

 
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2010-12-30 14:12:19  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Don't forget that there's Dark Energy and Dark Matter etc.
That is indefinable and a humanly created idea if such a thing actually exist.

here, play with this:
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-12-30 14:22:07  
There's no such thing as "void".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

"Void" and "space" embodied as this idea of nothingness are purely human perceptions and not how things actually are. There is a gravitational attraction between every single object with mass in the entire universe and any other object with mass in the entire universe. You are exerting an attractive pull on everything else that possibly exists out there and there is no (known) way to "shield" this effect. The reason it all doesn't "float into you" is that obviously gravity isn't the only force out there and the inverse square nature of the attraction (~ 1/(r^2)) means that displacement is hugely instrumental in the magnitude of this force.

The universe continues to expand because the initial acceleration provided by the Big Bang (current theory) overcomes the gravitational force exerted by the sum total of the universe's mass. Once this mass reaches a limit (the critical mass), this may/will change.
 
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-12-30 14:45:02  
The plates thing is an analogy. The tl;dr version is that in "empty" space, there are particles fading in and out of existence in line with the Uncertainty Principle connecting energy and time.

I dunno if I'm being dumb, but that's a Feynman diagram which describes transitions between quantum states and the probabilities thereof. The y-axis is time.
 
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-12-30 15:21:35  
Time isn't nonexistant in empty space and I don't see how time=gravity? I could just be doing dumb again; studying Physics has largely taught me how little I know about it, but I don't understand why time is gravity by definition?
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By Lakshmi.Kyi 2010-12-30 15:28:05  
The real question should be Does yesterday still exist today or has it gone forever.
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By Luz 2010-12-30 15:28:56  
Lakshmi.Kyi said:
The real question should be Does yesterday still exist today or has it gone forever.
The real question is why did your "question" not end in a question mark?

Also, why is the d in "Does" capital?
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By Lakshmi.Kyi 2010-12-30 15:30:42  
Luz said:
Lakshmi.Kyi said:
The real question should be Does yesterday still exist today or has it gone forever.
The real question is why did your "question" not end in a question mark?

Also, why is the d in "Does" capital?
Because the keyboard is broke and it doesnt have a question mark any more
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-30 15:32:32  
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Time isn't nonexistant in empty space and I don't see how time=gravity? I could just be doing dumb again; studying Physics has largely taught me how little I know about it, but I don't understand why time is gravity by definition?
this is kinda neat and seemingly relevant.

link
 
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By Lakshmi.Kyi 2010-12-30 15:35:48  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
For time to exist there would need to be two things: oxygen and gravity.

The forces that control decay.
This doesnt make sense because you can reverse gravity but it doesnt reverse time.
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