Time Travel

This is like metaphysics. If you cut your finger off, are you still considered you? At what point are you not yourself anymore? It's a mind-***, but interesting to talk about. Especially for druggies lol.

Relevant to this discussion? If not, at least its interesting to watch.

funny enough i've had this type of conversation with druggies recently.
and i do agree it is fun.
multiverse theory has always intrigued me.
and the *** doors of perceptions and all that jazzarazzamataz.

Speaking as of this moment, 20:00 hours is a future time from now, in order to reach that time, I need to travel to it, if I don't travel, I stay still, which means my current time will always be my current time.

We are in a constant state of flux so staying still is completely implausible.

Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.

You start dying from the time that you are born.

Past > present > future

time travel in thory allows you to pass tho time and either into the future or the past. now these things are all relivent to you. were you are in a diffrent time. but to the other persons around you it is still there present. now unless you move into a diffrent time. this is now your present. the throies of how you cant injest the butterfly effect into this becasue it doesnt envolve the past. are incorrect. your present is someones elses past or future.

i saw on a tree in the forrest and leave, does it fall? did it make a sound? if i hadn't sawed on the tree would it of done either? is it still there? what year did i saw it waht year did it fall? did it fall did i really saw on it?

casue and effect. everything effects everything in some way. i travel into the future shoot a random person. it creates a ripple that effects all those envolved with that person. As well as the people who know those people. and so on and so forth.

your next arugment is well who is to say that person shooting him or not may or may not of changed anything. but how are we to know? these ripples are not like the pages of a book you cant track them due to the invisiable changes they make. and how they effect those in the future. sine to them they would not notice the change. or lack of change that was ment to have happend.

is time travel possiable? i dont know, no one really does its al lthory and speculation. since no one can come back and say look waht i did. or has as of yet. but what would be the point in just going farward. acording to some thories. you got no one to go back to tell them what you saw. your safer jsut doing cryogenices and being put to sleep and waking up in the futere. like good old fry from futurama...

since i saw this post i started reading on the orgional poster. and the investagaions into who he was. based off my own person findings.

your a guy from the year 2036. who in 1999 faxes a radio station telling them Y2k is goingto destroy everything. then later anwsering questions on a blog. telling everyone about it and your time machine. who only stopped over in 2000 to "visit family" and later vanishes

me i go back in time im not telling anyone crap. im investing in yahoo, google, wal-mart and some other places. then reaping the benifits.
he first went back to the 70 then to the year 2000 why would a solider want to go back to a nuclar wasteland when he could live were its safe and be a hero. if he was so paterotic wh is he spiling the beans. and did the governemt send a assasian back to kill him for tell the the secret. but if that was the sace why didnt they jsut sind one back even farther and kill him before he was born?

endless possabilities. i know lest all pool up our money. invest in a few choice stocks. jump in a time machine into the future and chash out. and dont screw up and go to far were we all abandon the consept of money and jsut love each otehr and fly thro the galaxy in our spandex jup suits and fire lazers at aliens

I beg to differ! All you gotta do is press pause, it's been staring you in the face all this time.

where do I get this pause?

the problem is that you can't go back in time.
you don't have to factor in the butterfly effect when going into the future because you haven't been to the future yet.
you can't have a butterfly effect on something that hasn't happened yet in your plane of time.
your whole "your present is someone elses future/past" is a load of crock. why does someone else come into the matter in the first place?
i think you might watch too much ashton kutcher and michael j fox movies?

read a book called "the accidental time machine", it's a pretty good volume for a topic such as this.
i'll post a summary for the hell of it.
this book is topically relevant(that and it being the last book i've read as of recent in direct regards to the subject)

tl;dr post also reminded me of that episode of the Simpsons where Homer is told his fingers are too fat to dial, to obtain a special typing wand, please press * now.

I think it's kind of silly to use time travel as a means of sustaining your desires which will only be replaced by more and more desires.

"With time travel, I can get lots and lots of money to get lots of girls and cars and fame."
vs.
"With time travel I can understand the synapses in my brain which trigger these pleasures for me and cut right to the chase."

Maybe a means of dismantling the brain/ego to remove things such as racism, greed, jealousy, etc.

I've been uncontrolably time traveling for about fifteen years now and it's really kind of annoying. It only happens when I am driving and as I mentioned I can't control when it occurs but all the sudden I will jump and be 60 or 70 miles further down the road than I theoretically should/could be. My friend tried to convince me that I was falling asleep at the wheel or spacing out, since I drive for a living. So I brought him along a few times and whammo we make a two hour trip in an hour...

Everyone in the car notices something has happened, though nobody has ever really been able to describe the feeling of it. It's like watching a spliced movie or something all the sudden you are just there and you recognize the scenery has changed.

conveyor belt roads.

That's like if you cut my arm off would you call it Mitch?

Mitch Hedberg

Fixed

AND IF YOU PUT IT BACK YOU CAN CALL IT MITCH ALL-TOGETHER

or

"I have a vest. If I had my arms cut off, it would be a jacket."

you
na not relating these to that lame movie with deme moores boy toy. the butterfly effect movie and the actual butterfly effect are diffrent. no lame frat boy multiverse puns intended.
. your only viewing this from your own persona. your only correct if only you go into the past or the future. and theress nothing there to interact with. as i said . your present is someone elses past or future. and your interaction with things effects others.

well look at this fro ma diffrent angle. you jump in your make shift internet bought time machine 3000 delexe edition. with allthe added bling. hitthe old buttones and pop up in the year 2050. man kind is still kicking and the world is at peace. you then hit the butons again and poof your in the year 3000 and mankind is gone. wiped out from a wierd virus that took the planet by storm thought to have been wiped out 1000 years before. and without thee resorses mankind was destroyed. when in reality you sneezing in 2050 casued a ripple for the entire planet.. your future was the year 3000 past but you couldnt go back in time to warn yourself you destroyed the entire world. with a simple sneeze

Win

time travel is not possible unless the laws of nature established that there are different time warps involved in the same plane.

And that is impossible, time is constant and instant.

from what I understand... and believe. But would like to know that time isn't constant and the same.

Quoting from Vinvvs post about The Accidental Time Machine


Quantum Leap anyone?

I was going to make an AIDS joke halfway through that wall of text until you said it was caused by sneezing :(

We call him "Lefty" because his left arm got ripped off and we're mean and you don't even want to know how uniball got his name.

@Megatron
you just were speaking of the premise of the book i mentioned actually.
i'd imagine there is a certain inevitability for destruction due to the reasoning.
you talk about you just moving into the future.
but if you plug in the concept of a multiverse you have to take into account the possibility of 1 you going into a fractured reality and then 2. more versions of yourself floating around.
honestly i could go a bit deeper into this conversation but this goes too far into what if land and i don't like what if land, it doesn't have good parking.
the degree that your butterfly effect would have to scope is immense and when dealing with a future that you have not experienced yet why are you not considering the butterfly effect of you existing period.
you being able to make a time machine in the first place.
if you are able to make one therefore the plausibility that others being able to make them arises and then there's a ton of disaster scenarios going on in the way you put it..so i can't exactly buy all of it :/

the what if is just too immense at this date and time.
too many loopholes to work with to have it work outside of movies and television for a long long time.

You can't troll as well as I, cease and desist.

yeah the plot of that book is kinda *** at the end.
I think they should have just ended with them dying in oblivion rather than going with a happy ending.
they are reaching way too far with a happy ending(and stretching with other plot elements) IMO.

were talking about a thorey of time travel and you dont like what if land. thats waht this is all about . thory sharing ideas interacting. exploring. casue and effect, chaos thory, multiverse, phisics, psycology. endless amounts of data smashing together creating off shoots off of off shoots.

being right or wrong when it comes to a thory isn't waht this is all about. our communications creats a spark in others who gives them the driveto add ther thory. and we asorb it add it to the collective. and go farther keeping it alive. all great ideas inventions and premisus spark from talk like these. i enjoythe talk and the expression of ideas on the subject. it beats sitting here waiting for FREAKIN WIND WEATHER

Time travel sweet!

Are we talking about science fiction theories / fantasies of time travel or how time travel really works?

yep and what if.