BRD AF3+2 Set - Whats The F#¤# Point????

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BRD AF3+2 Set - Whats the F#¤# point????
 Hades.Warviper
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By Hades.Warviper 2010-12-18 15:14:20  
So now that SE nerfed BRD AF3+2 set in regards to Carol IIs whats the point in even bothering with BRD AF3+2 anymore in regards to set bonus??

Set bonus = INT+1 for castin Water Carol II!???!
WHAT THE #¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Can my PT use that for???

Sometimes I really hate SE and their changes....

THank YOU SE for making the gear i spend 3 months on aquering with my limited playtime absolutely useless now...
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By Unicorn.Ryuchan 2010-12-18 15:17:54  
You upgraded AF3+2 only for Carols? >.>
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By Hades.Warviper 2010-12-18 15:21:08  
Of cause not :) But:

1. it was definately the biggest factor in making me choose to make that AF3+2 instead of making THF+2 Feet or other stuff first...

2. Besides, I think you misunderstood me, cause i didnt make myself clear enough :) Im not complaining on the stats of the BRD3+2 gear :)

What I am complaining about is the set bonus effect compared to all other set bonus effects for jobs getting +1 INT or +1 MND for singing a song in set gear BRD af3+2 is just sad as hell........................

Look and compare to well any other set bonus effect for any other job, you can't.... ours is worth nothing now.. while others at least give some nice dmg boosts or 0 MP usage or instant cast or something to the person wearing the gear.
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By Sylph.Kofi 2010-12-18 15:36:48  
Even if the set bonus is not the best out there, BRD AF3+2 is still the best BRD can get. I have no complaints about my Ballad +1 legs or song spellcasting minus head. Just because the set bonus sucks doesn't mean it's bad.
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By Hades.Warviper 2010-12-18 15:38:08  
Once again the talk is about the gear and individual stats.
- And once again I cans say I agree as in I to like the brd gear's individual stats.

But I am trying to make a post about the set bonus - not what stats are on the AF3+2 gear.

You cant honest to god say that you are happy with the brd set bonus compared to all other set bonus' in the game atm...
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By Sylph.Kofi 2010-12-18 15:41:51  
Honestly, I don't care about the set bonus. Considering some sets either has a really low proc rate on double/triple damage or a occasionally (read: 2% proc) on magic damage absorb or whatever. If anything you should look at BRD AF3 for the pieces. The set bonus is just a set bonus. Not anything game breaking.

I also have WAR AF3 and the set bonus for that procs so rarely I think it's not even worth it. But the stats on the pieces are so good I just can't avoid not wearing them.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-12-18 15:43:39  
Unicorn.Ryuchan said:
You upgraded AF3+2 only for Carols? >.>

Carols were the biggest reason to get 3 x AF3+2 before the last update, fyi.
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By Shiva.Tenrio 2010-12-27 17:13:09  
Well.. if you have 5/5 full set you get +5 attribute to whatever element the song is.. so 2x March = Dex+10. It doesn't mean much in Abyssea I guess but it's still rather nice. I was a bit disappointed that Invinci-brd carols got smashed out but I'd say it's an ok set bonus.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-06-20 14:52:43  
BRD's set bonus is actually great, compared to a lot of set bonuses:

THF: "Occasionally" increases damage of 2nd/3rd hit of triple attack.
DNC: "Occasionally" doubles damage when you have a samba up, unclear if party members get this bonus.
NIN: "Occasional" extra attacks while dual wielding.
WHM: "Occasional" nullification effect from barspells.
BST/DRG/PUP/DRK: "Occasionally" increases damage in direct proportion to your pet/wyvern/automaton/own HP (so if it is at 100%, doubles your damage)
SCH: "Occasional" quick magic effect.
SAM: "Occasional" double damage on Zanshin.
BLM/SMN "Occasional" boost to damage proportional to twice the percentage of MP conserved if conserve MP/Blood Boon are triggered.
MNK: "Occasional" second kick attack per round without the use of footwork.
PLD: "Occasionally" absorbs damage taken.
RNG: "Occasional" double damage when rapid shot triggers.
COR: "Occasional" triple damage quick draws.
WAR: "Occasional" double damage double attacks.
BLU: "Occasional" ***.

All of these are pretty MEH when you look at their proc rates (all low). Then you get to RDM, which always lets you increase the duration of buffs on your party members when Composure is up (not too shabby), and BRD which always gives a +attribute bonus to your songs.

BRD is in the game with RDM in that the boost ALWAYS applies, so I think it's actually one of the better ones :)

EDIT: OOps, necro bump. For some reason I didn't notice the posting date o_O
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By Lakshmi.Seoha 2011-06-20 14:54:05  
Hades.Warviper said:
So now that SE nerfed BRD AF3+2 set in regards to Carol IIs whats the point in even bothering with BRD AF3+2 anymore in regards to set bonus??

Set bonus = INT+1 for castin Water Carol II!???!
WHAT THE #¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Can my PT use that for???

Sometimes I really hate SE and their changes....

THank YOU SE for making the gear i spend 3 months on aquering with my limited playtime absolutely useless now...
Honestly you should be glad that you *only* worked 3 months.

Imagine if that set was back in salvage days, at 2008.
THEN you would be FAR more pissed.


*edit*
oh that's a necro bump, screw what I just wrote =D
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-06-20 14:55:17  
Lakshmi.Seoha said:
Hades.Warviper said:
So now that SE nerfed BRD AF3+2 set in regards to Carol IIs whats the point in even bothering with BRD AF3+2 anymore in regards to set bonus??

Set bonus = INT+1 for castin Water Carol II!???!
WHAT THE #¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Can my PT use that for???

Sometimes I really hate SE and their changes....

THank YOU SE for making the gear i spend 3 months on aquering with my limited playtime absolutely useless now...
Honestly you should be glad that you *only* worked 3 months.

Imagine if that set was back in salvage days, at 2008.
THEN you would be FAR more pissed.


*edit*
oh that's a necro bump, screw what I just wrote =D


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By Lakshmi.Seoha 2011-06-20 14:55:53  
Weeeee~
I'll bring the popcorns, you bring the butter.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 14:56:55  
This thread is bad and you should feel bad.
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By Asura.Ryguymc 2012-03-03 19:24:21  
I dualbox nm's very often and normally my alt is on brd and yea the set proc for Carols is simply great and yes i am pissed about the nerf. on another note he is simply asking if you guys are upset about the nerf to af3 set proc not your opinions about the gear as individual pieces the answer should simply be yea the nerf sucks or no it needed to be gimped down a bit to balance other jobs crap *ss proc rates
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2012-03-03 19:32:47  
I'm not a Bard so I have no clue... but what did the set bonus do before the nerf?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-03 19:35:37  
100% nullification on Carols.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-03 19:36:07  
95% DT on Scherzo, lol.
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2012-03-03 19:40:05  
O.O Were they at least "occasional"?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-03 19:40:53  
No.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-03 19:45:09  
Even with just 2 pieces, 100% nullification on carols, 95% from scherzo, lol.
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2012-03-03 19:49:14  
Holy crap, and people were surprised it was nerfed!?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-03 20:01:35  
Yep.
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By Asura.Ryguymc 2012-03-03 21:08:17  
yea im not suprised it got nerfed but.. am upset that they would make it that way then take it away
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-03 21:10:52  
Obviously it was a mistake :P
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By Bismarck.Markas 2012-03-03 21:18:47  
Asura.Ryguymc said: »
I dualbox nm's very often and normally my alt is on brd and yea the set proc for Carols is simply great and yes i am pissed about the nerf. on another note he is simply asking if you guys are upset about the nerf to af3 set proc not your opinions about the gear as individual pieces the answer should simply be yea the nerf sucks or no it needed to be gimped down a bit to balance other jobs crap *ss proc rates
little late getting to the party arent ya?
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By Asura.Ryguymc 2012-03-03 21:53:54  
yea holy necro lol didnt see date was just jumping around posts
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By Shiva.Msthief 2012-04-01 20:47:45  
Anyone remember the update that made it so that the mazurka instrument gave flee? I liked that one.
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