Trigger Conditions Eased & Abyssite Discernment

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Trigger conditions eased & Abyssite discernment
 Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-12-08 11:36:25  
Update 12/6/2010 included a note that read:

* Trigger conditions for certain NMs have been eased.

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Also: Abyssite of discernment

A variety of ancient abyssite that
harbors arcane powers.
The bearer will more readily
recognize the weaknesses of
Abyssean fiends faced in battle.



Does anyone have ANY information on the following update and abyssite?
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By Sylph.Tsujikiri 2010-12-08 12:14:27  
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2010-12-08 12:17:02  
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
* Trigger conditions for certain NMs have been eased.
Maybe Iron giant's normal attacks don't count as a tp move anymore.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-12-08 12:43:41  
Titan.Darkwizardzin said:
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
* Trigger conditions for certain NMs have been eased.
Maybe Iron giant's normal attacks don't count as a tp move anymore.

I suggested what Darkwizard said here yesterday during the update. Haven't checked it out just yet in-game. Would love to hear from anyone who triggers !! on an Iron Giant post-update.

In addition, based on several Abyssea runs post-update, it seems the respawn timer on timed-pop Abyssea NMs (Iktomi, Heqet, etc.) has decreased to 15 or 20 minutes after ToD.

Also, the respawn timer of the "???" for forced-pop Abyssea NMs seems to have decreased from 3 minutes, now down to 1 minute.

As a curiosity, has anyone noticed a post-update decrease in the number of AF3+1 seals produced even when triggering yellow !! weakness? My group usually got 3-4 seals per NM kill with yellow !! and TH pre-update. Then, post-update we only got 1-2 seals per NM with yellow !! and TH.
It's a small post-update sample size, so maybe we were just unlucky yesterday. Or maybe the new TH changes had something to do with it.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-08 12:44:49  
Had a number of 5x drops last night and the TH adjustment did not nerf base TH levels, you were just unlucky.
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By Bismarck.Fabiano 2010-12-08 12:45:18  
Concerning the new Abyssite of Discernment, there are new dialogs in the DATs which announce possible weaknesses. Unknown at this time how they are triggered:

Dialog Table Entry 07245 The fiend appears vulnerable to ≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/fire/ice/wind/earth/lightning/water/light/darkness] elemental magic!≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 07246 The fiend appears vulnerable to ≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/hand-to-hand/dagger/sword/great sword/axe/great axe/scythe/polearm/katana/great katana/club/staff/archery/marksmanship] weapon skills!≺Prompt≻

Dialog Table Entry 07247 The fiend appears vulnerable to ≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/fire/ice/wind/earth/lightning/water/light/darkness] elemental weapon skills!≺Prompt≻
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By Gilgamesh.Ianpyst 2010-12-08 13:32:31  
Anyone know where to get this abyssite yet? >.<
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-12-08 13:33:15  
good info Fabiano I had a feeling that's kind of how it would work. Going to be cool for red!! no doubt.


Next step: Find out how the hell we get the new abyssite
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By Leviathan.Maphis 2010-12-08 14:01:12  
My guess would be you /check the nm when u have the abyssite.
thinkin it will be a max fame quest item or a tier 3 nm
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By Bible 2010-12-08 14:18:59  
Pretty sure I purcased this with Crour in range but I could be wrong I was sleepy. Could be mistaken.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-12-08 14:34:14  
What color is it? Ivory, Emerald? Or does it not have a color?
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-12-08 15:00:28  
thank you fabiano!
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By Bismarck.Arcos 2010-12-08 15:06:45  
Bible said:
Pretty sure I purcased this with Crour in range but I could be wrong I was sleepy. Could be mistaken.

Mistaken, the ones buyable were merit, celerity and furtherance.
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By Bismarck.Fabiano 2010-12-09 06:01:52  
yes there is alot of stuff undiscovered atm but ppl will find out soon enough.

also interesting would be atma of the apocalypse

"Triple Attack"+: Superior Quick Magic Auto-reraise
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-12-14 10:20:35  
update: read on bg


Quote:
Abyssite of Discernment from Joachim upon clearing all 6 caturae mobs


Bluegartr thread



Quote:
Previous kills counted. Clear all 6> go to Joachim > Hall of Gods > F-7 in Qufim. It costs 10k cruor to enter, and it gives you the Crimson Traverser Stone.

There's a Cruor Prospector + Atma Infusionist inside to get buffs



Info on how the Abyssite works:

Quote:
If you cast offensive magic on the NM, it will tell you the element you should focus on. Same with weaponskills. Try elemental magic weaponskills, and it will you which element to focus on. Try normal weaponsills, and it will tell you which weapon type to focus on.

Basically try procing !! as normal, and you will get messages on what to do.


can't wait! :)

All credit to tsola from bg
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-12-14 16:07:54  
bump.. just want to make sure everyone who cares see's how to get the Abyssite of Discernment, I know I had been waiting to hear
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By Bahamut.Echojin 2010-12-14 16:23:07  
Awesome info, thanks from people like me who are too lazy to stay current with BG stuff.
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