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Additions and Adjustments Galore! (12/06/2010)
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-12-06 09:29:39
Bismarck.Altar said: I think Iratham still has yet to pop on some servers.
Pretty sure mobs even like Myrm didn't pop on some servers until recently either...
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By Bismarck.Simtny 2010-12-06 09:32:21
maybe you can trigger !! while they are casting or doing tp move now? that would be easier
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-06 09:39:54
Bismarck.Simtny said: maybe you can trigger !! while they are casting or doing tp move now? that would be easier Maybe the NMs give out free candy and roll over for you too. Maybe.
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By Bahamut.Evilswine 2010-12-06 09:40:51
all these "adjusted" droprates in dyna etc... hopefully increased and not reduced
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By Alexander.Varistor 2010-12-06 09:43:57
Bismarck.Altar said: I think Iratham still has yet to pop on some servers.
got to kill it a couple nights ago. man was it a blast to fight it. We had just finished an LS farming alliance and lot of people had left so we only had about 7-8 of us left still. Found out Comet is single target and absorbed by shadows, not sure if that's listed so thought i would mention it. We got full drops and i got the ring. Good times and a new title.
p.s. really looking forward to adjustments to Einherjar as well as feet drop rate. Oh and the mog sack.
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By Kasaioni 2010-12-06 09:48:17
Now I can finally get my RDM AF3 feet which I've never seen drop.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2010-12-06 09:54:12
Kasaioni said: Now I can finally get my RDM AF3 feet which I've never seen drop. same here for BLM feet and MNK feet! never seen them drop.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-06 09:54:16
Kasaioni said: Now I can finally get my RDM AF3 feet which I've never seen drop. +1 and blm, have the seals for both waiting for me.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-12-06 09:56:32
The more drops and easier trigger conditions make me curious. I mean, hear about and talk to plenty of people who've pretty much nailed evertyhing in Abyssea. And some people who are struggling - but not a whole lot. But isn't some of the fun, I don't know, NOT getting max drops all the freaking time? Where's the stimulation in running in, getting your crap, and done?
I don't mean to say that I think you should have like a 0.03% drop rate, but I think it's all pretty easy already. I've not really done everything yet, but so far... yeah, not too tough.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-06 10:02:00
Fenrir.Terminus said: The more drops and easier trigger conditions make me curious. I mean, hear about and talk to plenty of people who've pretty much nailed evertyhing in Abyssea. And some people who are struggling - but not a whole lot. But isn't some of the fun, I don't know, NOT getting max drops all the freaking time? Where's the stimulation in running in, getting your crap, and done?
I don't mean to say that I think you should have like a 0.03% drop rate, but I think it's all pretty easy already. I've not really done everything yet, but so far... yeah, not too tough. Eh, there's just so much content being added, if you have a decent sized shell, even with max drops each time, it's going to take a while to deck everyone out. You don't see very many people running around with 3/3 AF+2, even though if you trigger grellow with TH4 you'll get full drops more often than not (unless we've been insanely lucky).
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2010-12-06 10:04:00
Ragnarok.Corres said: Kasaioni said: Now I can finally get my RDM AF3 feet which I've never seen drop. same here for BLM feet and MNK feet! never seen them drop. srsly? we duod farmed for 9hrs to get friend BLM feet since he has 8/8 seals, 3 WAR, 3 MNK, 2 THF, 3 WHM, 1RDM later when we timed out, i had lotted a MNK since its going to be job #10
curious about the WOE stuff, ive gotten pouches in my placed chests b4
but seeing increased coin drops for all the weapons i wanna do that are not full blown empryean makes me happy
and the cutoff at 51% XD
By Rahjan 2010-12-06 10:06:24
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: Ragnarok.Corres said: Kasaioni said: Now I can finally get my RDM AF3 feet which I've never seen drop. same here for BLM feet and MNK feet! never seen them drop. srsly? we duod farmed for 9hrs to get friend BLM feet since he has 8/8 seals, 3 WAR, 3 MNK, 2 THF, 3 WHM, 1RDM later when we timed out, i had lotted a MNK since its going to be job #10
curious about the WOE stuff, ive gotten pouches in my placed chests b4
but seeing increased coin drops for all the weapons i wanna do that are not full blown empryean makes me happy
and the cutoff at 51% XD
Some people get lucky. I've seen thf drop once.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-12-06 10:08:30
Fenrir.Terminus said: The more drops and easier trigger conditions make me curious. I mean, hear about and talk to plenty of people who've pretty much nailed evertyhing in Abyssea. And some people who are struggling - but not a whole lot. But isn't some of the fun, I don't know, NOT getting max drops all the freaking time? Where's the stimulation in running in, getting your crap, and done?
I don't mean to say that I think you should have like a 0.03% drop rate, but I think it's all pretty easy already. I've not really done everything yet, but so far... yeah, not too tough.
I think the playerbase, in general, prefers a medium drop-rate. Too easy makes the game stupid. Too hard makes the game a chore.
There's always going to be elitists who will complain when drop rates are adjusted higher. There's always going to be casuals who complain when the drop rates are too low.
It's pretty tough to find the right balance, as a game programmer, I bet. That said, I'm just pleased that S-E is willing to be MUCH more responsive and flexible with updates/adjustments now, when compared with years past.
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2010-12-06 10:09:18
that is true, i have 8 seals and 6 coins for the ever elusive COR feets >.<
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2010-12-06 10:15:47
99% sure by trigger conditions they mean spawn condtions. If they meant !! they'd probably say "stagger conditions."
JP players refer to a "pop set" as a "trigger."
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-12-06 10:17:38
Glad on the coin changes for WoE, but 51%, should be more like 5 mins of first mob attacked. Latest we've had anyone come in is during the 2nd boss mob, which is before 51%, lol, so that will change nothing when it comes to leeches
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-12-06 10:22:48
Asura.Andevom said: Fenrir.Terminus said: But isn't some of the fun, I don't know, NOT getting max drops all the freaking time? Where's the stimulation in running in, getting your crap, and done?
Given that you have to 1) Get the drop 2) Do a trial involving getting more drops and 3) Do another trial involving even more drops to get the fully augmented piece of armor, I'd say getting the initial drop without having to spend half a day in Abyssea would be preferable. I'm not saying GIVE the stuff away, but just be a little bit less time consuming.
Also consider that you're probably contending with a decent number of people who want the drops as well. I don't know about you, but having to deal with drama over "S/HE GOT MY DROP! FFFFFFFFFUUUUU" time and time again isn't my idea of fun.
Oh yeah, those drops. That makes more sense. I was thinking more along the lines of seals.
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: 99% sure by trigger conditions they mean spawn condtions. If they meant !! they'd probably say "stagger conditions."
JP players refer to a "pop set" as a "trigger."
This, too, makes sense. Languages are fun. Shoot, it could even be different on different servers or even linkshells, I bet.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-12-06 10:26:14
Quote: - Trigger conditions for certain NMs will be eased
I hope this means that you don't need 4 *** items to pop Chloris anymore
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-12-06 10:27:07
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: - Trigger conditions for certain NMs will be eased
I hope this means that you don't need 4 *** keyitems to pop Chloris anymore
This^
Moar Vereth plz
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-12-06 10:27:43
Edited it to say items, not key items, but you get my drift
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2010-12-06 10:53:31
Where was the update to Dynamis AF drops when I needed Valor Surcoat and Duelist's Chapeau? /cry
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By Asura.Takinagi 2010-12-06 10:57:25
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: - Trigger conditions for certain NMs will be eased I hope this means that you don't need 4 *** items to pop Chloris anymore
They probally are talking about aoe auto-attack like the iron clads do
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-12-06 11:17:32
Bismarck.Altar said: I think Iratham still has yet to pop on some servers.
Really? It pops all the time now it seems >_<
Anybody know wtf made it pop all of a sudden?
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By Cerberus.Zandra 2010-12-06 11:22:33
Siren.Clinpachi said: *In Dynamis, Drop rate for Equipment including relic armor and accessories will be adjusted
I have to wonder if that means 100s and coins as well...
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By Lakshmi.Alaric 2010-12-06 11:23:34
Does anyone know @ what time is the update happening??
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-06 11:24:24
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: - Trigger conditions for certain NMs will be eased
I hope this means that you don't need 4 *** items to pop Chloris anymore Holy *** this. If they adjust Chloris and Glavoid I'll be so happy.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-12-06 11:26:01
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Bismarck.Altar said: I think Iratham still has yet to pop on some servers.
Really? It pops all the time now it seems >_<
Anybody know wtf made it pop all of a sudden?
No idea. I know people were thinking it was related to the other Timed NMs at one point, not sure what happened with that.
But iirc, kirschy mentioned it hadn't been seen on her server yet.
It's been up for a long time on Bismarck though, our shell has killed it a handful of times.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: - Trigger conditions for certain NMs will be eased
I hope this means that you don't need 4 *** items to pop Chloris anymore And Glavoid too!
Man I'm jealous of all the Sams out there with the easy button trials
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2010-12-06 11:26:08
*In Dynamis, Drop rate for Equipment including relic armor and accessories will be adjusted
Why would SE say "Equipment including relic armor and accessories"?
Isn't the "equipment" the relic gear?
By Purpleeyes 2010-12-06 11:26:44
Cerberus.Zandra said: Siren.Clinpachi said: *In Dynamis, Drop rate for Equipment including relic armor and accessories will be adjusted
I have to wonder if that means 100s and coins as well...
Most likely not. Accessories probably refer to the dreamworld dynamis area pieces.
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This is all listed under the Update notes on the playonline Viewer right before the log in screen.
*The Following Addition and adjustments will be made to Trial of the Magians
- New Trials will be added
- Quotas for certain trials involving mythics and relics will be reduced (All adjustments will be reflected even for trials in progress)
*the Following additions to Walk of Echos:
- When the Battlefield reaches 51% Completion or Higher, No further entry will be permmited.
- Drop rates for coins will be adjusted
- Treasure coffers that appear upon battlefield completion will occasionally yield "Frayed pouches"
*In Dynamis, Drop rate for Equipment including relic armor and accessories will be adjusted
*In Einherjar, Acquisition rates for Einherjar wing I/II/III will be adjusted
*The Following Adjustments will be made to Abyssea Areas
- A new Synthetic atma will be added for WoTG mission completion.
- Repop delays for NM's will be shortened.
- Trigger conditions for certain NMs will be eased
- Monsters who appear at boosted levels will vanish and appear at their regular levels if not engaged (Guessing this means mobs won't always be up IT++)
- Abyssites gained from defeating NMs will be granted to alliance members,
- "Atma Fabricant" NPCs will be added to Vision areas.
- Quests in Abys-Konsc offered by Ayame will be available to adventurers regardless of fame
- The rate of Empyrean Armor from Sturdy Pyxides in Scars areas will be increased
- In bastion, Martellos, Clone wards, and and Resistance NPC's will receive a boost.
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