Will PLD Be Useful Again At Lvl 99?

Funny enough though, I think SE actually does try to make things balance, but we as a community always tend to take things apart and shape them in ways the make them easier/quicker. I mean if you look Japanese players, zomg so many of them still use a billion SMN/BST to kill NMs in abyssea... they tend to be so resistant to change and kind of tow the SE line if you will.

Like many LSs, we used PLDs alot when glavoid and lacovie and new NMs came out, which is probably how SE tested it or wanted it. But after your look at all those atmas sit back and think about it.. you ask yourself why?

Some guy in a previous post said what, are we gonna replace PLD with BLMS? You know, thats not that far off from the realm of possibilities if given the right setup. Give that blm a PDT set, a lot of HP, and a support staff, and there you go.. tank.

Unless every job is identical, then there will always be a better job and a worse job, period.

The first thing to do to fix PLD is give it an offensive /JA. Next needed change it to let it pass the hate cap.

If making a PLD a better DD makes it no longer a PLD, but what PLD is sucks, then what's the point? It's either change or continue to fail.

There's no possible way they are going to give PLD potential dmg output on par with NIN/MNK/WAR.
Boosting PLD's ability to pump out dot and spike dmg like MNK/NIN/WAR would just render the latter useless.
Wait, its SE, on second thought that's probably what they will do, instead of designing NMs around the need of a PLD tank.

Do you think, I see far more Japanese players have balls and try things solo as opposed to overkill American linkshells.

I hope so. I like PLD.

Solution;

Great Sword + Shield wielding Paladin

I like your idea Rih!!

I hope blood tanking comes back.

Me to , always enjoyed tanking!!!

Between 14:01 and 21:59 hitting Blue !! with Swift blade!

It has?

Really? I see JPs throw alliances of SMNs at ***. Not terribly ballsy. If they're soloing, they take forever about it (by not being ballsy) and/or are too gimp to succeed (see: various people trying to solo Ovni and full -DTing it instead).

Blood tanking is more in than it ever was. Aerial Armor rotations vs tanking ***with your face due to infinite MP, which is a better example of blood tanking?

SE should of made a few big abyssea HNMs with some kinda beefy def, magic resistance, and have them produce enormous amounts of damage. And then give pld better damage migrating gear(because almost all jobs have the same damage migration as a pld...)

Thus you get DDs that are taking more damage then they are producing and allowing mages to start pulling hate or even run out of mp(in abyssea shocking I know) which is where pld starts to look more appealing. Unfortunately I dont think SE is planning to do that....


Even if they did, you also have the new goodies you didnt have before in other content, extra items. Revit, fana/fool powder/tonic/drink, megaelixar,lucid pot I/II/III lucid elixir I/II , att/acc/DA/potency drinks. Thats an arsenal available to you to kill anything in this game....I have all that available to me 90% of every NM fight. Its just to hard to find a way to fit pld in abyssea realm now. Maybe if SE decides to later on..............make more content for 99 outside of abyssea just maybe...

On a small note, any pld tried seeing what potential emp sword pld does? Only because RR isnt enough for pld damage...

I meant the practicality of turtle builds and realistic damage mitigation. It is slowly coming back, but I'd like to see it be more widely used both in and out of abyssea.
Unfortunately I don't own Abyssea yet, so I don't really know of its use or practicality in Abyssea yet thanks to all these Atmas.

It's not moreso useful nor mandatory in a lowman situation. What people are failing to realize is where's the fun factor in all this? As I'm sure most of you quote abusive trolls have checked my account, I can come ANY other 85 job. For simple, HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE NMs why not go pld? The thread starter was stating we're completely useless now and hoping we'll be more of an asset @ 99. We're fine. Yes, it's CONVENIENT to tank as mnk [which I have], but as most people; I get tired playing one damn job. I'm to the point of sitting in my mog waiting for Fire's Day to actually do something other than abyssea.


@Raenryong
For one: I EXPECTED someone like you to post, considering you crave more attention than a single child teenage girl.
• A PLD TANK WILL ALWAYS GET HIT one way or another, period. Even with march's and haste most abyssea mobs multi-hit.

• I would LOVE to know where I stated pld was the best tank for lowman? I said stable. Enough with your straw man techniques.

•Yet again, what does 2010 have to do with PLD? It was a reference to the type of thread this was in comparison to the popularity of its nature in 04.

•If something is being lowmanned that doesn't need my blm or bst. It's 1) a shitty mob so who cares 2) Let me have fun?

If you feel the need to furthermore increase your postcount PLEASE refer to How I found love on FFXI, or even LOL2012 where your moot opinions might matter to someone.

Oh and welcome back after the 4th time 'retiring.'

lol.

Then why is it that the only Japanese player ubiquitously known as a solo artist is Avesta?

There are a great many solo artists, and rarely are they JP.

Yes, one of the most informative and helpful posters are jus' trollin'. He meant PLD gets hit too much, comparatively to other jobs. And Shield never procs. Take that stick out your ***

ITT: can't have fun while being efficient

Your first post went on a rant about how PLDs are are not useless and we're all elitist for saying it. I called you out on it. Your second rant gave up on that idea and now focuses on fun factor? I'm glad at least your thinking and acknowledging that mnk can and do makes a more efficient tank. If you want to argue that playing other jobs is more fun even though it takes twice as long (Though I would argue every non-pld is probably having the time of their lives right now).. hey have at it?

No one is telling you HOW you should play the game, we're just giving an honest impression on the job and how irrelevant the playing community has made it. If you hate abyssea, join/start a new LS?

The question people are addressing isn't "will PLD be fun again at lvl 99?" - Hell, it's fun playing DRK at the moment but it doesn't change the fact that as a DD it's pretty impotent right now. Needs fixing!


Ya, I do have an awful habit of posting.


I was moreso being mean and asking why the PLD has hate in the first place :(


And I suggested there were many better jobs that were more stable and contributed more to a fight, suggesting PLD needs revamping.


You implied that saying Paladin isn't useful is something which shows you are not in 2010 when in fact, 2010 is an awful year for the job.


You can lowman everything in Abyssea without either of those jobs... though I'm not entirely sure what you're saying anyway. Seems you're suggesting a mob isn't hard if you don't have to BST/BLM it to death?


Cheers but I only retired once??

Your goldy locks, dont lie Irish Brotha ! doesn't proc nearly as much as a MNK counter though, and you know, they get their spell off as well, with out taking any damage, and still dealing damage in the long run :O

I'm thinking of a job trait which gives Paladin ability to use Great Sword and shield at once around 80+ levels. Playing as PLD/SAM this way would be great fun imo. Using GS on single hand would compensate the lack of damage output we need. No penalty needed since GS skill of PLD is B rating, or maybe small adjustments, and job would become much more balanced.

Currently I don't enjoy playing PLD and I'm leveling RDM to find place in activities without worries. I didn't even hit 85 with PLD yet. We need to be motivated to play PLD again.

Aegis doesn't proc :( MNK onry now (though RDM moar)

You know im gonna laugh HARD if the next update gives pld something that makes this whole 22 page thread moot.

I will be very happy because I really enjoy Paladin! Plus sir shiny shield here will be using it more!

I do triple backflips when you say come PLD.

lol talking down at Raen as if you were better than him. You completely missed the point he was making.

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Into your Maserati?

Pardon my ignorance and lack of owning/playing Abyssea; but would one care to paraphrase in simple terms why PLD is less functional as of late?

Then go to the club to play with my girl's bewbs. (And ultimately end up not playing PLD at all)


They gimped Atonement DMG, and it just can't keep up with DD hate. DDs can also tank everything safely, so there's little room for PLD when optomising.