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21 year old hangs himself live.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-12 13:42:13
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
It's just people trying to act "OMG SUPER EDGY!" They don't actually mean it, they just act with this persona online.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-10-12 13:42:43
Asura.Catastrophe said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Asura.Catastrophe said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Asura.Catastrophe said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Asura.Catastrophe said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: apparently you *** don't lurk through Rotten or FacesofDeath
its not the WHEN, its the HOW Jesus *** Christ. Maybe its easier for some people to disassociate. I'm not sure.
There's really nothing disturbing in the act that he performed.. or method I should say. hanging yourself is not fun. You know whats fun, 3 guys one hammer, that made MY skin crawl, and I love violence.
So is it the act of BEING disturbed perhaps makes you feel more alive? yes, because I already know the end result
I'd say that is a completely logical ideology. That's interesting.
public displays of death have been around for a long time. Hangings, beheadings, firing squads, executions, we've all seen this ***before. Its the unconventional ways people die is what drives us to disturbing levels.
No one gives a unicorn's rainbow-swirled *** about some guy getting the chair, or a woman getting shot in her home.
But when two 13yo bullies sodomize a 10yo with a broomstick and the kid hangs himself as the end result, THEN we go crazy.
3 Russian kids take turns smashing a man's face in with a hammer, we just *** in our britches for that ***.
Or that guy who died of internal bleeding when he got *** by that horse, people lol'ed and cried at the same time.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-12 13:45:16
Shiva.Flionheart said: Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
It's just people trying to act "OMG SUPER EDGY!" They don't actually mean it, they just act with this persona online. It still portrays no care, if someone actually felt sentimental about the situation they wouldn't even joke about it considering they are aware of the critical level in this situation.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-12 13:46:29
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
it's called no respect for life.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-12 13:47:03
Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
It's just people trying to act "OMG SUPER EDGY!" They don't actually mean it, they just act with this persona online. It still portrays no care, if someone actually felt sentimental about the situation they wouldn't even joke about it considering they are aware of the critical level in this situation.
It's just carelessness rather than a lack of compassion though I think. Most people who say things like that just want to be seen as that super edgy guy, and don't think before they type lol.
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-12 13:47:04
Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
It's just people trying to act "OMG SUPER EDGY!" They don't actually mean it, they just act with this persona online. It still portrays no care, if someone actually felt sentimental about the situation they wouldn't even joke about it considering they are aware of the critical level in this situation. Everyone's apathetic on the internet, obv.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-12 13:47:31
Fenrir.Yinsha said: Phoenix.Darki said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
It's just people trying to act "OMG SUPER EDGY!" They don't actually mean it, they just act with this persona online. It still portrays no care, if someone actually felt sentimental about the situation they wouldn't even joke about it considering they are aware of the critical level in this situation. Everyone's apathetic on the internet, obv.
Not really. I get mad and sad online.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-12 13:47:48
it's the internetz it doesn't matter hur durr hurrr... grow up.
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-12 13:50:52
I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-10-12 13:52:25
Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp.
perhaps you need to grow up
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-12 13:52:31
Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-12 13:53:19
Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp.
Seems like you lack a lot of emotion and you are very dead and empty inside, you are the kind of people that provoke loss of hope on society.
Fear of death is not weakness, it's awareness. Suicide is an impulse, created by a detrimental weak state of mind. It doesn't mean the person can't step it up and be stronger than that.
I think lacking emotion is weakness. Hurr durr, grow up. Feel something for a change and don't be afraid of it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-10-12 13:55:31
Fear of death is a survival trait.
Just tossing that in there.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-12 13:56:34
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: Fear of death is a survival trait.
Just tossing that in there. awareness!
agreeing with you
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By Bismarck.Enzoe 2010-10-12 13:59:37
Phoenix.Excelior said: Isn't it funny that a lot of these people committ suicide in a public manner. They kill themselves on a public bridge or in front of webcam. I think its an obvious cry for attention, they know they'll be dead but that they'll shock some people into caring. I guess they realize that nobody would give a ***about them or who they were otherwise. I'd like to let them know that their life was still worthless, and they are still meaningless.
People that think a person with developmental disabilities killing themself is funny have the worst disability of all, a disgustingly sick mind.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-12 14:02:09
Asura.Catastrophe said: Fenrir.Yinsha said: Fearing death is a weakness.
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: Fear of death is a survival trait.
Just tossing that in there.
Fearing the death of others, perhaps is a weakness.
being aware something is harming someone else to the point of killing them and feeling fear it's normal it's like a little natural message saying 'that ***killed him, it could kill you! run away'
or something like that, even if it's suicide the brain might just register it that way.
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-10-12 14:02:45
Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp.
I call BS. Unless you have actually seen someone die in front of you, you have no clue how you would feel.
Also fearing death is NOT a sign of weakness. Refusing to live your life because of that fear, is.
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-12 14:03:38
Asura.Catastrophe said:
Fearing the death of others, perhaps is a weakness.
Yeah, maybe I should rephrase, fearing death is natural, letting it become an obstacle to you is different. Freaking out in a critical situation is not something you should do if you want to save lives. However I'm not going to watch someone kill themselves, I would try to stop them. I simply meant if someone is dead there's nothing you can do, get over it.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-10-12 14:06:38
Fenrir.Yinsha said: Asura.Catastrophe said:
Fearing the death of others, perhaps is a weakness.
Yeah, maybe I should rephrase, fearing death is natural, letting it become an obstacle to you is different. Freaking out in a critical situation is not something you should do if you want to save lives. However I'm not going to watch someone kill themselves, I would try to stop them. I simply meant if someone is dead there's nothing you can do, get over it.
thats not what you said at all lol
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-12 14:12:03
Asura.Matzilla said: Fenrir.Yinsha said: Asura.Catastrophe said:
Fearing the death of others, perhaps is a weakness.
Yeah, maybe I should rephrase, fearing death is natural, letting it become an obstacle to you is different. Freaking out in a critical situation is not something you should do if you want to save lives. However I'm not going to watch someone kill themselves, I would try to stop them. I simply meant if someone is dead there's nothing you can do, get over it.
thats not what you said at all lol wat
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-10-12 14:13:27
Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp. does not mean the same thing as this
Fenrir.Yinsha said: Yeah, maybe I should rephrase, fearing death is natural, letting it become an obstacle to you is different. Freaking out in a critical situation is not something you should do if you want to save lives. However I'm not going to watch someone kill themselves, I would try to stop them. I simply meant if someone is dead there's nothing you can do, get over it.
Is what Mat is trying to point out.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-12 14:15:06
Shiva.Flionheart said: Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-12 14:23:40
Leviathan.Angelskiss said: Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp. does not mean the same thing as this
Fenrir.Yinsha said: Yeah, maybe I should rephrase, fearing death is natural, letting it become an obstacle to you is different. Freaking out in a critical situation is not something you should do if you want to save lives. However I'm not going to watch someone kill themselves, I would try to stop them. I simply meant if someone is dead there's nothing you can do, get over it.
Is what Mat is trying to point out. ^
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By Titan.Wombat 2010-10-12 14:24:06
@Vinvv: *seductive wink* (sorry got busy at work)
Happen today in sweden, since I havent been able to find any info in english I've used google translator. So some stuff might look odd.
SwedishNewspaper said: Several people were shocked to witness when a young man on Monday hanged himself live on a web page.
The police were alerted and pulled out the man's apartment in a Swedish town but did not stop him in time. He is now confirmed dead.
- I've seen a lot online but this is the worst I've seen in my entire life, said a person who witnessed the incident, via a webcam was looking directly at an Internet site.
Police were alerted at 13:44 and was in place in the man's apartment at 14:05. There began immediately with cardiopulmonary resuscitation but discovered that it was too late.
- He has been found dead, "said police spokesman.
Over a thousand comments poured rapidly on to the page where the event was shown. Comment feature was shut down but then the police contacted the individuals behind the page.
- It is unfortunate if someone knew that the man planned to kill himself and did not do anything to stop him, "said press spokesman, but added that police can not control how people behave in social forums on the web.
However, she believes that many who witnessed the scene and the one preceding the suicide did not take the incident seriously.
- You've heard of such incidents in other countries but never in Sweden. It easily becomes a fictional world on the internet and it seems that many and not realized it was for real.
Quotes from an online forum where he says that he's gonna kill himself, and gives out passwords to people who wanna watch it live on webcam
Quote:
"I'm a guy in 21 years.
I have a good life, studying at my own pace, in an apartment, a great income (activity + housing).
Is Asperger syndrome / high functioning autism.
Is overly vulnerable (emotionally) ...
Have the right poor social skills, which makes me a somewhat lonely one.
Think I've had a good upbringing, despite a lot of hassle at school.
Makes no sense that I want to kill me? Nah, I know "
"Have made up my mind to kill myself by hanging myself.
Have tried a bit to strangle myself and how it feels.
Took some painkillers for a few minutes ago (100mg dexofen and 1500mg paracetamol), is waiting right now for it to start working.
Has sat on my webcam with a program that allows a dump every other second and tossed up an FTP where the pictures end up, will post the IP: Port and login details before I implement it "
W T F?
Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with people? And why would anyone wanna take their own life live? It's not like they can read about the reactions after. And whats the point in craving attention if you're atually going through with killing yourself?
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