If FFXIV Fails... What Does That Mean For FFXI?

Just to chime in on Lakshmi, the server tilts heavily towards JP characters so if that >1k screencap is not an outlier then I can only imagine how bad our NA population is faring.

For the record I know some servers have very different situations going on regarding their NA/JP splits and how busy things get during NA prime but with the gear tiers and progression towards old-school "you shall not pass" content, things will get only more difficult from here on out.

Colonization is pretty much dead along with Wildskeeper Reives so if you didn't do those yet, you're prolly boned till the next installment of Naakuals.

It really sounds like luvbunny is trying to convince himself FF14 will be good...

Are you in the beta?

I started researching on all servers frequently, since lakshhmi is completely dead, a lot of players are aware about low populated and how stale ffxi is atm @ official ffxi forums

Sure

I'd imagine they're going the route they normally do with expansions. Which is releasing content slowly over the course of years. I can agree with the pace of the content release though. It does leave a lot to be desired. But it's because of this I hold my judgement on SoA. The potential is still there and a lot of the map has space to it for more.

It seems to be shaping up to be a pretty good game (was a good game before servers shut down after all the major fixes). But the way people are *** going on about the beta, you would think it was nothing but wall-to-wall ***.

From the little bit of the beta ive played, its a lot better than when it first came out.

The UI is a hell of a lot better. Questing is pretty fun and the game as a whole feels a lot more accessible.

It has a nice FFXI feel to it, but with more modern MMO play which to me makes it feel a lot better.

Plus the game looks really damn good.

I agree the original version was horrible i never got the wow factor and i don't mean world of warcraft, i mean you want to play more you want to explore more the game is interesting and full of color and many of the creatures we know from ffxi and new ones.

i do not see ffxi going away it will continue for those who want to keep playing it just now there will be two flavors of a very good game.

No convincing needed. It is good . I think your trying to convince yourself that it's not good. That logic however makes no sense. Then again...

As long as they make money from XI it will be here

FFXI won't go away till it stops making money for them.

Really just seems its more on life support than anything.

lol that so wasn't directed at you xD

There's plenty of free to play games with graphics as good as ff14. Boils down to will there be stuff to do once you cap out in a week or two.

Name one ?

swtor is not truly free you have to pay for most options

sto same thing

LOTR same thing

Rift same thing


AoC same thing

pretty much need to spend money to open content why not sub and keep the cash.

Indeed - the end game is what dictate if it will survive for long or not. Though judging from what Yoshi already hinted - there will be challenges that will make grown men and women weep in tears of joy or anger and frustration lol. Plus a lot of the fearsome foes are making appearance, from all the prime avatars (Shiva is coming and looking better than ever), Omega and Ultima weapon (last seen being lifted in airship during CS), Odin, Bahamut, Crystal Tower, etc... I think the hardcore will have the works cut out for them. Not to mention future updates will bring Ninja, Thief and Red Mage. You cannot ask for a better director at the helm of FF14. This is one game that will put FFXI out of their misery for good, until Matsui retaliates and unleash Abyssea Golden Edition Version 2.0 :)

those are all ancient games, just google for free mmo 2013 or something, tons of pretty looking games. But nice graphics doesn't mean the game is good. 14 looked great when it came out too lol, but anyone in alpha or beta like I was knew to stay the hell away.

Where was this said? I would be interested in reading about it.

I believe it was mentioned in one of the E3 live chats by Square-Enix.

The director mentioned that a lot of fans and those on the beta forums have been asking whether there will be new jobs coming after Scholar and Summoner have been added. It wasn't much of a confirmation though and more like a "we will think about it" first. They still have a lot of things to finish first like updating the game's engine to DirectX 11 from DirectX 9 and finish the Playstation 4 port some time in 2014. That and prepare for the eventual launch of ARR at the end of August.

I know they said Ninja and Samurai, although I don't recall where sadly. Redmage seems new though although plausible, the game is a tad lacking in the mage department.

Asura has 2.5k top NA prime time which takes a massive dip to 1500 ish every other time

It's the Windows 7 effect.

More interviews:

Talks about Summoner - and how much it looks like Warlock class from WoW :) Awesome Magitek battle, and Chocobo battle just like FF12, more actions less crap - no pokemon battle. Housing is mentioned. Expect familiar races and a lot of things coming to FF14, basically every little easter eggs and fan service you could dream of will be added from the FF universe. Also mentioned everyone will get the same thing and no Japan Only button. Loving this guy every time I am reading interviews about him.
http://gamerescape.com/2013/06/17/e3-2013-interview-with-naoki-yoshida/

Thief and Ninja plus Muskeeters, a new race (Vierra anyone?) + level cap raised for new expansion, Red Mage and Blue Mage is considered (whatever the player wants, Yoshi wants them too). Also PvP, Coliseum, Bahamut’s Labyrinth and the Crystal Tower. Doomtrain may be possible for future content.

http://gamerescape.com/2013/02/21/gamer-escape-talks-to-naoki-yoshida-on-the-ffxiv-media-tour/#more-23207

I heard something about drk if the battle team can make it work in time for the new expansion. Also The one thing I dislike about adding new races is if its one i really want but already have my main character. I wouldn't mind it as much if they would allow us to change our race (even if its a $5 fee that we can only do once every 90 days). Though adding new races is something I love.

Adding races is cruel if you're not allowed to get a race change while retaining your character progression.

SE LOVES Money!! and FF14 is taking its cues from WoW so expect a lot of fan service and mounts plus cosmetic items for a fee!! Heck if it brings them money and we ASK for them, it will happen. Remember, FF14 goal is to please the players, what we want, Yoshi wants too, he will make it, and sell it to us :P

I agree. Though I love the idea. I'm sure if enough players ask they will add the ability to change race and keep progression.

You like easy games. FF14 has always been(and will likely continue to be) an easy game. That's great. It doesn't speak for everyone who plays FFXI, though.

Some of us thought abyssea was *too* easy. Some of us enjoyed 18-man coordinated fights. Some of us liked FFXI the way it was. Adoulin is trying to bring that back.. if you're done with FFXI then just let it go. Abyssea isn't returning. FFXI isn't a casual MMO, it never has been. It's the type of game that's most enjoyed by the people who were ok with taking the time to beat NES RPGs. The people who wrote maps and notes in cheap notebooks just to beat the original games without guides. The people who want a challenge, not directions where to go so they can feel some sort of accomplishment at following an NPC's orders for an hour.

FFXI doesn't need to die for you to enjoy FF14. You're just so egotistical that you think if it holds nothing for you it holds nothing for anyone.

I don't see the point in just cloning ffxi. Bascially making the same game but with fancy graphics and less content.
I guess casuals got nothing to lose by playing 14 over 11, but why would people with established chars want to quit 11 and move to 14?