Drugwars

Unless it is legalized~

Mexico is not the US's problem. Honestly competition is all that needs to happen for the ball to start rolling. EDIT: Legal competition.

I can't imagine the Mexican drug cartels deciding to go into another legitimate industry and beating their swords into plowshares, should the US legalise drugs. :p I suspect they would like to hold onto what power and influence they have attained in the areas they control.

you're *** kidding me, right?

Morality shouldnt even enter into the concept. Especially not in a tolerance-driven government such as the United States. A government that legalizes pornography and alcohol (two major "immoral" industries) really has no place to assume that drugs fall under a separate set of rules.

Something like that should be left up to the judgement and responsibility of the end-user. If you dont like it, avoid it. The concept is very simple.

I would only be open to the possibility of decriminalizing marijuana I would never vote to completely legalize it. There is a big difference.

It would be in their best interest to turn their operations into a legitimate business. The less crime they have to commit to move their product, the better off they are.

Schutz you really from the US? Why don't you use Z's?

If the local government cannot protect regular citiZens or private industry, then the cartels are free to act more openly in whatever they do.

Not if they can cow the local government in border areas to leave them alone. Then they can operate any way they like.

I remember reading this newsstory a while back...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/mexico/stories/DN-mexsecurity_29bus.ART0.State.Edition1.26c2674.html

...it's to the point where private multinational firms working in the border areas look to themselves to provide security, and hope that the cartels continue to not target them because they are "too big" (i.e. don't have local capitals that can be targeted for intimidation and extortion.)

If the local government cannot protect regular citizens or private industry, then the cartels are free to act more openly in whatever they do.

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I used a "z" there. :p

I used a "z" there. :p

I always felt the situation facing Mexico and Russia where organised crime has such a tremendously strong presence mirrors the pre-Depression US mobwars of the 1920's and 1930's.

At the time, mob organisations were so strong and prevelant they effectively "owned" certain cities in the US, and it took a lot of federal government pressure (essentially flat out warfare, targeting kingpin figures, attacking financial backers, uprooting corrupt law enforcement agents, etc.) and many years to finally reverse the situation. Many of the "untouchable" mob bosses were finally brought in through the use of accountants to track their actions, as an indication of the extent law enforcement had to go.

I really get the impression that such strong-handed action must be (eventually) taken by the Mexican and Russian governments to target the threat and hedge out their control over territory. For certain, the US drug-using population fuels the problem in the first place, but the cartels are so indemic now to the local economies that they are emboldened to overtly attack authority figures and oppress locals to protect their holdings. I can only forsee things getting worse.

I can't imagine the Mexican drug cartels deciding to go into another legitimate industry and beating their swords into plowshares, should the US legalise drugs. :p I suspect they would like to hold onto what power and influence they have attained in the areas they control.

After legalization the cartels would not have to bribe/intimidate anyone to move their products. They would now be in competition with other legit businesses dealing with that industry. If they cannot adapt, they will not survive.

wtf do you think they will do to their competition? forget all about their intimidation tactics?

I always felt the situation facing Mexico and Russia where organised crime has such a tremendously strong presence mirrors the pre-Depression US mobwars of the 1920's and 1930's. At the time, mob organisations were so strong and prevelant they effectively "owned" certain cities in the US, and it took a lot of federal government pressure (essentially flat out warfare, targeting kingpin figures, attacking financial backers, uprooting corrupt law enforcement agents, etc.) and many years to finally reverse the situation. Many of the "untouchable" mob bosses were finally brought in through the use of accountants to track their actions, as an indication of the extent law enforcement had to go. I really get the impression that such strong-handed action must be (eventually) taken by the Mexican and Russian governments to target the threat and hedge out their control over territory. For certain, the US drug-using population fuels the problem in the first place, but the cartels are so indemic now to the local economies that they are emboldened to overtly attack authority figures and oppress locals to protect their holdings. I can only forsee things getting worse.

Funny, I am watching Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas right now.


Legalization of drugs? Yes, please legalize every last drug. The people who do not use them suffer more from them being illegal.

People need to realize morality is just opinions and that they have no right what so ever to tell anyone what they can or can not put in their body. People should be educated about drugs, but no one should tell me or anyone else I can not use them.



Oh, and *** Mexico.

Everyone who has posted has failed to realize how much money alcohol/Tobacco companies pay towards our government, the influence they have is powerful enough to make sure it will stay illegal preventing further competition for them.

f you've ever read my opinions on religion on any other ah.com forum you would of realized it was sarcasm, problem with open atheist you push your disbelief on others just as strongly as religious fanatics push god... So funny lol

Make them legalized for medical purposes? either way making them legal probably will be a good thing.

Marijuana comes to mind, it may lower crime. I mean if it was legalized what is the point in selling it? Just look at it like alcohol.

If someone is high behind the wheel of a car or in public, or some place that requires etiquette. The simple solution would be to bring them to jail and fine them. Even if legal people can get addicted and should still need rehab and other services.

America is #1 consumer of pure Columbian cocaine, Brazil is #2.

I see where the problem is...

yes yes because I'm going to go through the trouble of reading all of your posts why? Also no, religions are faith based systems them pushing their faith on others is very different than me wishing people used logic, blind faith is illogical and religions are *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.