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 Alexander.Tidusblitz
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-09 19:34:48  
My pld has 2.4k HP in abyssea. It is pretty well geared. Ill admit it though. Turul made me his *** last night.
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By Leviathan.Hastefeet 2010-09-09 19:34:55  
how are the new zones and mobs in FFXI?
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:35:18  
The point of the matter is that this gear is a HUGE increase from previous gear. Not a small update like they added before. They may as well have put a banner on the front-page of XI saying "XI, Casual edition"

The only thing I like about this is the fact that jobs will be more nostalgic and actually look like the job they are instead of full perle or pink dnc.
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By Leviathan.Hastefeet 2010-09-09 19:36:22  
i honestly just want to see what all the AF3 stats are so i can just say "Wow, i dont have to give a ***about getting this"
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-09 19:36:55  
way to answer my question Fli lol
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:37:29  
Well it's going to be fairly obvious by 99 most jobs are going to full time AF3 +9 or w/e.
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:38:30  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
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Oh sorry, I must have missed them adding in new HNM. All I saw was new mobs in Abyssea that you bring an alliance to kill.


oh i'm sorry fli...cuz HNMs werent pretty much always killed by alliance pre80?

HNM are harder than general mobs. Each person matters more than in an abyssea alliance when mobs last less than 10 seconds.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-09 19:39:48  
Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Flionheart said:

Oh sorry, I must have missed them adding in new HNM. All I saw was new mobs in Abyssea that you bring an alliance to kill.


oh i'm sorry fli...cuz HNMs werent pretty much always killed by alliance pre80?

HNM are harder than general mobs. Each person matters more than in an abyssea alliance when mobs last less than 10 seconds.


ITS THE SAME GODDAM CONCEPT AS OLD HNM.....there is no difference... kirin used to take an alliance to kill back in the day.... some Abyssea NMs take an alliance to kill... same ***..don't needlessly rag on a game you dont play when it was the same ***when you were playing lol just different mobs..
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-09 19:40:00  
Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Flionheart said:

Oh sorry, I must have missed them adding in new HNM. All I saw was new mobs in Abyssea that you bring an alliance to kill.


oh i'm sorry fli...cuz HNMs werent pretty much always killed by alliance pre80?

HNM are harder than general mobs. Each person matters more than in an abyssea alliance when mobs last less than 10 seconds.

Obviously hasnt done the hard NMs
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:42:31  
Alexander.Tidusblitz said:
Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Flionheart said:

Oh sorry, I must have missed them adding in new HNM. All I saw was new mobs in Abyssea that you bring an alliance to kill.


oh i'm sorry fli...cuz HNMs werent pretty much always killed by alliance pre80?

HNM are harder than general mobs. Each person matters more than in an abyssea alliance when mobs last less than 10 seconds.

Obviously hasnt done the hard NMs

I've fought plenty of hard NM's Most of the time I make it harder by low-manning because fighting NM's in alliances is such a bore. Not to mention rigid job choices.
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By Zekko 2010-09-09 19:43:26  
Alexander.Tidusblitz said:
My pld has 2.4k HP in abyssea. It is pretty well geared. Ill admit it though. Turul made me his *** last night.

I checked your PLD gears. Nothing special. Though youre right no hnm is hard, ffxi is ez mode
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-09 19:44:55  
lol good lord some of you are never satisfied.... i hope FFXIV doesn't get stale for you guys after 6 months when you reach max level and there is nothing really to do


edit: if it even takes you 6 months to get max level lol
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-09 19:45:00  
Zekko said:
Alexander.Tidusblitz said:
My pld has 2.4k HP in abyssea. It is pretty well geared. Ill admit it though. Turul made me his *** last night.

I checked your PLD gears. Nothing special. Though youre right no hnm is hard, ffxi is ez mode

If your looking at the gearsets, those are old
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:46:06  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol good lord some of you are never satisfied.... i hope FFXIV doesn't get stale for you guys after 6 months when you reach max level and there is nothing really to do


edit: if it even takes you 6 months to get max level lol

XI didn't get stale after 6 months. XI got stale after 7 years and multiple crappy updates. (Yes, I dislike Abyssea)
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By Zekko 2010-09-09 19:46:37  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol good lord some of you are never satisfied.... i hope FFXIV doesn't get stale for you guys after 6 months when you reach max level and there is nothing really to do


edit: if it even takes you 6 months to get max level lol

Itll take me less than 10 days to reach max level ;D
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By Leviathan.Hastefeet 2010-09-09 19:47:12  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol good lord some of you are never satisfied.... i hope FFXIV doesn't get stale for you guys after 6 months when you reach max level and there is nothing really to do


edit: if it even takes you 6 months to get max level lol

if ffxiv turns out bad thats just something im not going to waste my life over

i was satisfied with FFXI, i just didnt think i should play forever so i stopped

FFXI is a good game still

and for me FFXIV is a good game, i really wouldnt say either was better, just both better at certain things
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-09-09 19:47:31  
Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol good lord some of you are never satisfied.... i hope FFXIV doesn't get stale for you guys after 6 months when you reach max level and there is nothing really to do


edit: if it even takes you 6 months to get max level lol

XI didn't get stale after 6 months. XI got stale after 7 years and multiple crappy updates. (Yes, I dislike Abyssea)

The only problem i have with abyssea is the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE time limits. Make that ***unlimited.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-09 19:49:37  
i still dont get what was so bad about abyssea, but there is no sense debating/arguing any of this really... the "hardcore 14" supporters are gonna bash 11 like its now a piece of trash, and i guess thats all there is to it... GL with 14, I won't be trying it at launch and maybe not even for a long long while.
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:51:13  
Seeing what XI could be is one of the reasons I have no drive for it any more.

I mean... XI shouldn't have been locked to PS2 limitations, it should have evolved in everything.

My dream update would be SE closing the game for 2 weeks and upgrading everything to XIV's standard visually and mechanically.

Again the graphics of XI don't bother me, there are some truly beautiful areas and artwork in the game... The issue I have is the limitation on the game mechanics, and the fact that it feels so dated. Every game has to evolve, and XI just hasn't/can't.
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:51:44  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
i still dont get what was so bad about abyssea, but there is no sense debating/arguing any of this really... the "hardcore 14" supporters are gonna bash 11 like its now a piece of trash, and i guess thats all there is to it... GL with 14, I won't be trying it at launch and maybe not even for a long long while.

Kind of like how every XI fanboy bashes XIV without even trying it. It works both ways.
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By Zekko 2010-09-09 19:52:23  
My dream is FFXIV being excatly like FFXI, and by that i mean every single interface/item/menu/whatever is the same. BUT the game must have the graphics FF14 has now. That ***would be hawt
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 19:53:45  
I like the core mechanics behind XIV. I like the faster based combat and I especially like the crafting. XI has it's good points XIV has it's good points. XIV has more potential though.
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By Leviathan.Hastefeet 2010-09-09 19:56:18  
the same menus would have been nice...

and a search function would be nice too
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-09 19:57:43  
Flionheart said:
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i still dont get what was so bad about abyssea, but there is no sense debating/arguing any of this really... the "hardcore 14" supporters are gonna bash 11 like its now a piece of trash, and i guess thats all there is to it... GL with 14, I won't be trying it at launch and maybe not even for a long long while.

Kind of like how every XI fanboy bashes XIV without even trying it. It works both ways.


1) I can't try it yet...
2) my observations are solely based on interview videos I watch, game play I watch and feedback from BETA testers... so ya... I'm a mindless fanboy that just bashes 14 needlessly when I dont actually use observation skills.... ok
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 20:00:24  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Flionheart said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
i still dont get what was so bad about abyssea, but there is no sense debating/arguing any of this really... the "hardcore 14" supporters are gonna bash 11 like its now a piece of trash, and i guess thats all there is to it... GL with 14, I won't be trying it at launch and maybe not even for a long long while.

Kind of like how every XI fanboy bashes XIV without even trying it. It works both ways.


1) I can't try it yet...
2) my observations are solely based on interview videos I watch, game play I watch and feedback from BETA testers... so ya... I'm a mindless fanboy that just bashes 14 needlessly when I dont actually use observation skills.... ok

So you bash the game based on interviews that loosely show game-play footage? If you haven't tried the game yet you shouldn't bash it.

I'd suggest everyone tries it before saying it sucks. I've played XI and I've pointed out my opinions on it. Once you've tried XIV feel free to do the same thing.
 
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-09 20:02:47  
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So you bash the game based on interviews that loosely show game-play footage? If you haven't tried the game yet you shouldn't bash it.

I'd suggest everyone tries it before saying it sucks. I've played XI and I've pointed out my opinions on it. Once you've tried XIV feel free to do the same thing.


well i never said 14 is trash... and feedback from players in the BETA doesn't give a hint at gameplay? like Bart said I just dont like what i see of the system...plain and simple it doesn't look like a game that is more fun than XI to me
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By Leviathan.Hastefeet 2010-09-09 20:04:44  
its all about personal preference, some people will like FFXIV some FFXI and some WoW, it all depends on what interests u and what u find fun
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 20:05:08  
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Flionheart said:

So you bash the game based on interviews that loosely show game-play footage? If you haven't tried the game yet you shouldn't bash it.

I'd suggest everyone tries it before saying it sucks. I've played XI and I've pointed out my opinions on it. Once you've tried XIV feel free to do the same thing.


well i never said 14 is trash... and feedback from players in the BETA doesn't give a hint at gameplay? like Bart said I just dont like what i see of the system...plain and simple it doesn't look like a game that is more fun than XI to me

You imply XIV is trash in every thread remotely discussing it. You don't have to say the words to make the implied meaning obvious.

The difference is Bart actually tried the game before he said he disliked it, that's fine with me. I just don't like people saying the game is crap when they literally haven't played one second of it. That's how misinformation is spread.
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By Flionheart 2010-09-09 20:06:04  
Leviathan.Hastefeet said:
its all about personal preference, some people will like FFXIV some FFXI and some WoW, it all depends on what interests u and what u find fun

Again, pretty much that.

I liked XI's system, and I like XIV's system. XI's is more refined, but again Beta =/= completed game.
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