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Legitimate Animal Cruelty
Cerberus.Ethics said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: I blocked Ethics. I make more than you and him put together. You think I'm stupid. I live a better life. This is how much I care. . Arrogant reply for ignorant post. I don't think you're stupid, I can tell by the things you post. Asura.Masekase said: Or you could just see it on the first page. Also like others have pointed out all those videos show is the worst of the worst NOT COMMON PRACTICE. Where exactly do you get that information? You've visited every other factory farm? Cerberus.Ethics said: Randomguy said: Then would you rather be shot in the head? Or have your neck broken? Cause, hate to tell you this, but thats how most farms kill their food animals. That and beheading them. Most of the time (if done right) the animal doesn't feel a thing, or at least doesn't squack/cry out in pain. Well firstly it doesn't even have to be killing the animal. Most of the time horrible ***is done to it during it's life, cutting off of horns, castration, tail docking, beak removal, and this is all done without any sort of pain killer. As far as killing it goes, I'm not sure where you get your information, but if you want I can get you the video of them boiling and cutting open pigs while they're squealing to high hell, same thing with cows. I think there was some HBO special on factory farms, perhaps where the videos in this thread are already from, don't know, don't like watching that kind of stuff. In all honesty, I wouldn't doubt that the whole videos you have were the filmmakers doing it themselves just to make a huge scare tactic into getting more vegans. Farmers are businessmen in practice, they wouldn't want to lower their profits at all by all these "methods of killing" that you are assuming they do. And I know, since I worked on a farm years ago, and I know that they don't mistreat animals that way for the sole fact of more meat = more money. Randomguy said: Asura.Ericka said: didn't feel like reading through the BS i eat meat, its yummy etc, but meat is much, much more healthier to consume when the animal is less traumatized. i don't think you guys would really enjoy eating a cow if you saw it had all types of lesions and infected sores on its body from being beat and neglected before being placed in the grinder. It isn't profitable for a farm to abuse their products. It lowers the poundage and poundage = money. What that video was just a stupid farmer. He probably was the poorest in the area when they filmed it, and he probably didn't even know who the filmmakers are or what they are for when they filmed it. Not being picky but they where showing slaughter houses not farms. Farmers sell the animals to slaughterhouses. Cerberus.Ethics said: Asura.Masekase said: Or you could just see it on the first page. Also like others have pointed out all those videos show is the worst of the worst NOT COMMON PRACTICE. Where exactly do you get that information? You've visited every other factory farm? I dislike projected data. Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: She was vegetarian but she swallowed human sperm? I kid I kid. :P Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: She was vegetarian but she swallowed human sperm? I kid I kid. :P Damnit Darki, swallow it already. Randomguy said: Asura.Ericka said: didn't feel like reading through the BS i eat meat, its yummy etc, but meat is much, much more healthier to consume when the animal is less traumatized. i don't think you guys would really enjoy eating a cow if you saw it had all types of lesions and infected sores on its body from being beat and neglected before being placed in the grinder. It isn't profitable for a farm to abuse their products. It lowers the poundage and poundage = money. What that video was just a stupid farmer. He probably was the poorest in the area when they filmed it, and he probably didn't even know who the filmmakers are or what they are for when they filmed it. you would be surprised. in the late 09 a few slaughter houses were shut down due to poor conditions to the animals living space food source and other things. if the animal is sick with a life threatening infection, it can carry on into the person the consumes the animal. this is ***they don't tell you about when you're picking out your burger to put on the grill. Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Ethics said: Asura.Masekase said: Or you could just see it on the first page. Also like others have pointed out all those videos show is the worst of the worst NOT COMMON PRACTICE. Where exactly do you get that information? You've visited every other factory farm? I dislike projected data. http://www.hsa.org.uk/Information/Slaughter/Pig%20Slaughter.html Asura.Masekase said: Not being picky but they where showing slaughter houses not farms. Farmers sell the animals to slaughterhouses. I mean, how many slaughterhouses have feeding troughs? Or chicken coops? Asura.Masekase said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Ethics said: Asura.Masekase said: Or you could just see it on the first page. Also like others have pointed out all those videos show is the worst of the worst NOT COMMON PRACTICE. Where exactly do you get that information? You've visited every other factory farm? I dislike projected data. http://www.hsa.org.uk/Information/Slaughter/Pig%20Slaughter.html Are you purposely trying to confuse me? Or was this a reply to ethics??? Ramuh.Vinvv said: what the *** is with all the animal cruelty threads lately?
seriously... who *** cares. Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: I like to give people a chance to discuss things with me to get my take on it though. Diabolos.Sovereign said: what the *** is with all the animal cruelty threads lately? seriously... who *** cares.
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Asura.Ericka said: Randomguy said: Asura.Ericka said: didn't feel like reading through the BS i eat meat, its yummy etc, but meat is much, much more healthier to consume when the animal is less traumatized. i don't think you guys would really enjoy eating a cow if you saw it had all types of lesions and infected sores on its body from being beat and neglected before being placed in the grinder. It isn't profitable for a farm to abuse their products. It lowers the poundage and poundage = money. What that video was just a stupid farmer. He probably was the poorest in the area when they filmed it, and he probably didn't even know who the filmmakers are or what they are for when they filmed it. you would be surprised. in the late 09 a few slaughter houses were shut down due to poor conditions to the animals living space food source and other things. if the animal is sick with a life threatening infection, it can carry on into the person the consumes the animal. this is ***they don't tell you about when you're picking out your burger to put on the grill. It wasn't because of poor conditions of "living space" (by the way, why would a slaughterhouse have living space? That is what farms are for) but because there was no distinction between sick animals and animals able to be ate, and the slaughterhouses were selling tainted meat with the good. AKA poor management and disregard for food safety laws. Ramuh.Vinvv said: Asura.Masekase said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Ethics said: Asura.Masekase said: Or you could just see it on the first page. Also like others have pointed out all those videos show is the worst of the worst NOT COMMON PRACTICE. Where exactly do you get that information? You've visited every other factory farm? I dislike projected data. http://www.hsa.org.uk/Information/Slaughter/Pig%20Slaughter.html Are you purposely trying to confuse me? Or was this a reply to ethics??? lol that was a reply to ethnics Randomguy said: Asura.Ericka said: Randomguy said: Asura.Ericka said: didn't feel like reading through the BS i eat meat, its yummy etc, but meat is much, much more healthier to consume when the animal is less traumatized. i don't think you guys would really enjoy eating a cow if you saw it had all types of lesions and infected sores on its body from being beat and neglected before being placed in the grinder. It isn't profitable for a farm to abuse their products. It lowers the poundage and poundage = money. What that video was just a stupid farmer. He probably was the poorest in the area when they filmed it, and he probably didn't even know who the filmmakers are or what they are for when they filmed it. you would be surprised. in the late 09 a few slaughter houses were shut down due to poor conditions to the animals living space food source and other things. if the animal is sick with a life threatening infection, it can carry on into the person the consumes the animal. this is ***they don't tell you about when you're picking out your burger to put on the grill. It wasn't because of poor conditions of "living space" (by the way, why would a slaughterhouse have living space? That is what farms are for) but because there was no distinction between sick animals and animals able to be ate, and the slaughterhouses were selling tainted meat with the good. AKA poor management and disregard for food safety laws. Right, I don't believe any have been shut down for animal cruelty. I've only seen houses charged with it. The ones that are shut down were due to poor sanitary conditions. Asura.Masekase said: How is sending me to a humane slaughter information site tell me what actually is happening on said farms. You make it sound like you have intimate knowledge that every farm other than the one depicted treat the animals humanly. Which you haven't done. I can send you to a page that tells how to give the perfect ***, certainly doesn't mean everyone is practicing said techniques. Diabolos.Sovereign said: what the *** is with all the animal cruelty threads lately? seriously... who *** cares.
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FDA won't shut down a company for how it kills its meat, but for selling bad meat with the good.
Or, contaminated meat.
Eg. Hudson about a decade ago due to the ecoli strain. i think the only time ppl really got worried about eating meat such as beef, is when the video was released of that woman with mad cow disease. and even then ppl didn't refrain from eating beef.
they don't tell you a lot of things when you're buying your meat, same with vegetables. all the pesticides and poison they spray on your food before it even hits the market is unbelievable. unless you go to a organic market that "claims" they don't use chemicals on food and animals, you're basically blinded from the truth.
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Phoenix.Darki said: Diabolos.Sovereign said: what the *** is with all the animal cruelty threads lately? seriously... who *** cares. Just a few hours here and there when I can :/ Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Best just to hide behind your block hon. Phoenix.Darki said: Diabolos.Sovereign said: what the *** is with all the animal cruelty threads lately? seriously... who *** cares. No thanks, I'll just keep eating them after they squeal, moo or cry to death. Cerberus.Ethics said: Asura.Masekase said: How is sending me to a humane slaughter information site tell me what actually is happening on said farms. You make it sound like you have intimate knowledge that every farm other than the one depicted treat the animals humanly. Which you haven't done. I can send you to a page that tells how to give the perfect ***, certainly doesn't mean everyone is practicing said techniques. /sarcasm. If you demand PETA-only information, you will find that they are very one-sided when it comes to meat and methods of killing for the survival of mankind. Cerberus.Ethics said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Best just to hide behind your block hon. Randomguy said: Cerberus.Ethics said: Asura.Masekase said: How is sending me to a humane slaughter information site tell me what actually is happening on said farms. You make it sound like you have intimate knowledge that every farm other than the one depicted treat the animals humanly. Which you haven't done. I can send you to a page that tells how to give the perfect ***, certainly doesn't mean everyone is practicing said techniques. /sarcasm. If you demand PETA-only information, you will find that they are very one-sided when it comes to meat and methods of killing for the survival of mankind. Listen, I'm going to level with you, I think you're partially HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. I never asked for that, I asked what information he had that these practices don't go on at every factory farm, he then pointed me to that, which I then replied to. Asura.Ericka said: i think the only time ppl really got worried about eating meat such as beef, is when the video was released of that woman with mad cow disease. and even then ppl didn't refrain from eating beef. they don't tell you a lot of things when you're buying your meat, same with vegetables. all the pesticides and poison they spray on your food before it even hits the market is unbelievable. unless you go to a organic market that "claims" they don't use chemicals on food and animals, you're basically blinded from the truth. Hell, the swine flu slowed the sales of bacon. But people are not going to stop eating meat. Not only because of the taste, but because it is much easier to survive than living on a vegan diet. |
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