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 Asura.Masekase
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By Asura.Masekase 2010-09-01 18:52:21  
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
How do you know they do? They lack a brain, and nerve endings..



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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-01 18:58:35  
Somebody posted this a while ago, but I thought it was so funny! XD

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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-09-01 18:58:52  
Asura.Masekase said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
How do you know they do? They lack a brain, and nerve endings..

Religious logic.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-09-01 18:59:11  
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Animals die horribly in the wild and in captivity, the notion of humans-bad, animals-good is a little old. x.x We live in an imperfect world, if your goal is perfection, you will die disappointed. /endrant I suppose.

Going to die disappointed either way personally.

I'm not sure who is making any argument about humans being bad, and animals being good, unless Ivan Drago's wife was in here. Doesn't really matter anyways, the point is to lessen suffering exactly because we can see the flaws in nature. Not to just add to it because ***can't be perfect.

I mean, if you use makeup, why? You can't look perfect, so what's the use in even attempting to look any better?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-01 19:00:29  
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Bahamut.Serj said:
ITT: *** who can't make a logical statement.

I don't think you even know what a logical statement is. FFXIAH, so I mean I can't expect anyone to use ***properly, but I'll give you some logic.

1) Anything that causes suffering is bad
2) Anything that is bad we should avoid
3) Animals suffer in factory farming
4) We should avoid factory farming


You're reading into what I said. I didn't state my opinion on this subject. I was just saying people who are posting are generally pants-on-head HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE in their logic (generally).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:03:24  
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Siren.Enternius said:
It's not animal cruelty if it's done for food. Grow up.

If this isn't animal cruelty, then what do you call it?


I call it legitimate animal cruelty.

It's food. It's going to die within a week. I agree with Slip, I don't give a ***what happens, as long it's served to me correctly.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 19:04:07  
Bahamut.Serj said:
Cerberus.Ethics said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
ITT: *** who can't make a logical statement.

I don't think you even know what a logical statement is. FFXIAH, so I mean I can't expect anyone to use ***properly, but I'll give you some logic.

1) Anything that causes suffering is bad
2) Anything that is bad we should avoid
3) Animals suffer in factory farming
4) We should avoid factory farming


You're reading into what I said. I didn't state my opinion on this subject. I was just saying people who are posting are generally pants-on-head HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE in their logic (generally).
Are you meaning moi cuddlebunny? I hope not.
It would make me sad.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-01 19:04:29  
I guess I shouldn't have said that. I wasn't trying to say nobody should try, I thought I did say we needed to work together towards eliminating this type of cruelty. And it is stated often and has been in threads leading up to this one that animals>humans because humans know better but still act in intolerable ways(among other reasons). Sorry for being vague or offending you, I'm not the best at expressing my thoughts. :)
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-09-01 19:07:14  
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I guess I shouldn't have said that. I wasn't trying to say nobody should try, I thought I did say we needed to work together towards eliminating this type of cruelty. And it is stated often and has been in threads leading up to this one that animals>humans because humans know better but still act in intolerable ways(among other reasons). Sorry for being vague or offending you, I'm not the best at expressing my thoughts. :)


Don't worry boo.
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By Leviathan.Hastefeet 2010-09-01 19:10:50  
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:

Siren.Enternius said:
It's not animal cruelty if it's done for food. Grow up.

If this isn't animal cruelty, then what do you call it?


I call it legitimate animal cruelty.

It's food. It's going to die within a week. I agree with Slip, I don't give a ***what happens, as long it's served to me correctly.

well that and it tastes better this way
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:12:46  
If fruits and vegetables plants had faces, what the hell would vegetarians and vegans do.
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By Leviathan.Hastefeet 2010-09-01 19:13:41  
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
If fruits and vegetables had faces, what the hell would vegetarians and vegans do.

die off
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2010-09-01 19:13:46  
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
If fruits and vegetables had faces, what the hell would vegetarians and vegans do.

Change there tune and say they'll only eat fish cause.... errrmmm they don't live out of water.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-09-01 19:13:51  
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
If fruits and vegetables had faces, what the hell would vegetarians and vegans do.

Die out.
Hmm...*goes around drawing faces on fruits and veggies*
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-09-01 19:15:08  
Bacon.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:17:47  
I believe wasting food, as in food fights, that *** tomato ***they do in Spain, getting more than you can eat at a buffet or cooking something improperly due to ones' lack of skills is worse than making an animal suffer before its death.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:20:00  
And something you prolife experts should keep in mind, those animals wouldn't even have life if it weren't for humans. They were breed for food, they're raised to be for food, get over it.

Edit: While cultivating and harvesting crops (fruits and vegetables) with heavy machinery kills more natural animals than a few pigs, cows, ducks or whatever you want to *** about.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-09-01 19:21:15  
You're a moron.
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By Asura.Masekase 2010-09-01 19:21:57  
Vegetarians, from the other point of view!

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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:23:18  
Cerberus.Ethics said:
You're a moron.

Figures someone with a useless philosophy degree would come up with a statement as useful and educating as this.

You're nothing but a troll. Trying to hit up on Darki? If I can paraphrase a quote from you

'I only try to stir up ***on the forums'.

Go away, idiot.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-09-01 19:24:44  
Oh I'm sorry, your horribly moronic attention-*** comments aren't aimed at the same thing?
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By Asura.Lexin 2010-09-01 19:25:26  
Had chicken last night, Bacon this morning, and beef for dinner tonight. Whatever way they are killing the animals to make my food keep doing it cause it tastes so damn good.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:25:51  
Asura.Masekase said:
Vegetarians, from the other point of view!


Lolololol.....
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-01 19:28:56  
Steak is my favorite animal.


Interesting Vegetarian Facts.

Plants are living, vegetarians mercilessly slaughter billions of potatoes annually.


Any product containing a thresher-harvested means (IE Wheat) Contains approximately 3% animal protein, mostly the result of small animals decimated by the blades of the thresher harvesting.

A natural vegetarian diet does not provide the required nutrition to the human body, particularly hard hit is the brain. I won't bore you with the biochemistry, but when the asteroid hits, Vegetarians will die before the fatties. (Only human technology allows a full vegetarian diet, mostly focused around a particularly nutritious type of algae)

The only legitimate reason to be a Vegetarian, is so your wank tastes sweeter, yes, it does work.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-09-01 19:31:29  
So ridiculous when people spin a debate about animal cruelty into "OMG I LOVE MEAT, WHO CARES?"

Use your brain, if you have one.

No one is saying (here at least) that meat is bad or that you shouldn't eat meat. Humans are naturally omnivores, case closed.

The relevant and important point here is that animals are sentient creatures, and humanity owes them some modicum of decency and quality of life, even if they are destined to end up on your sandwich or dinner plate.

In fact, it's easy to make the argument that the animals deserve *extra* attention and care for that exact reason.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-09-01 19:34:25  
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
And something you prolife experts should keep in mind, those animals wouldn't even have life if it weren't for humans. They were breed for food, they're raised to be for food, get over it.

Only someone wasting their time on two degrees couldn't notice the fact it is not about prolife, and not six or seven words later make the amazing discovery that animals that are breed for food, are raised for food.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:34:53  
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
The relevant and important point here is that animals are sentient creatures,
No they're not.
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
and humanity owes them some modicum of decency and quality of life,
We do, the video is just an exmaple of a few farms / slaughterhouses that do not abide to the USDA set rules.
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
even if they are destined to end up on your sandwich or dinner plate.
Yummy.
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
In fact, it's easy to make the argument that the animals deserve *extra* attention and care for that exact reason.
Only if it's your pet and you plan to keep it as a friend forever. Not breakfast, lunch, dinner or a snack.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-01 19:37:03  
Sentience is the ability to feel or perceive. The term is used in science and philosophy, and in the study of artificial intelligence. Sentience is used in the study of consciousness to describe the ability to have sensations or experiences, known to Western philosophers as "qualia". In eastern philosophy, sentience is a metaphysical quality of all things that requires respect and care.

In many science fiction works sentience is often used as a synonym for sapience meaning "human-level or higher intelligence".

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

elanabella was being a bit vague.
many/most animals are sentient would be more correct.
I quoted wiki because I wasn't really sure if I wanted to get up and use my keyboard...oh but hey I had to log in to my email bleh.
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By Asura.Masekase 2010-09-01 19:37:47  
Odin.Zicdeh said:
Steak is my favorite animal.


Interesting Vegetarian Facts.

Plants are living, vegetarians mercilessly slaughter billions of potatoes annually.


Any product containing a thresher-harvested means (IE Wheat) Contains approximately 3% animal protein, mostly the result of small animals decimated by the blades of the thresher harvesting.

A natural vegetarian diet does not provide the required nutrition to the human body, particularly hard hit is the brain. I won't bore you with the biochemistry, but when the asteroid hits, Vegetarians will die before the fatties. (Only human technology allows a full vegetarian diet, mostly focused around a particularly nutritious type of algae)

The only legitimate reason to be a Vegetarian, is so your wank tastes sweeter, yes, it does work.

Yes more vegetables harvested the more worms that die in the process.

Guess its ok to kill worms. They are also not killed humanly. Most of the time having there body cut into lots of pieces.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-01 19:39:30  
Cerberus.Ethics said:
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
And something you prolife experts should keep in mind, those animals wouldn't even have life if it weren't for humans. They were breed for food, they're raised to be for food, get over it.

Only someone wasting their time on two degrees couldn't notice the fact it is not about prolife, and not six or seven words later make the amazing discovery that animals that are breed for food, are raised for food.

Let me hold your hand and walk you to the front of the short bus for a little.

Breed = Controlling reproduction to maximize offspring.

Raise = To care for and assure they yield the highest profit when slaughter time comes.

Got that? Cool. Return to your seat.
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