Well the server that about 90% of the people on this forum are on is Trabia, so if you decide on that server, send me a /tell (Lazarus Sharpe) for a pearl.
So I wonder how having more than one FFXIV account on your SE account will work. There's no way to differentiate when signing in to FFXIV right now (not like POL where you can choose the ID).
In the notes it specifically stated if you had one FFXIV account and two FFXI accounts, the price reduction would only apply to one of the FFXI.
I'm assuming a lot of things based off of what has been implied. Sure, shame on me for that, but there's not much else to work with.
So I wonder how having more than one FFXIV account on your SE account will work. There's no way to differentiate when signing in to FFXIV right now (not like POL where you can choose the ID).
Can't you just create a different SE ID and password and sign in with that?
Assuming you have a computer that can comprehend dual-boxing two FFXIVs...Like Jaerik.
I'm not trying to dual box. I want my wife to play FFXIV as well, but I want it under the same SE account. I have two FFXI accounts on it. I'd like the discount to apply to both, lol. That and it's easier for me to manage that way.
Sharing Account Information
Our Definition of Sharing Account Information
The sharing or lending of account or login information (such as your Square Enix ID and password) to another player is strictly prohibited by the FINAL FANTASY XIV User Agreement. Sharing or lending your account may cause you to unexpectedly lose access to your account to a third party.
Oh, yeah, I could have told you that. I got a warning from a GM 5 years ago in FFXI when I told her my fiance and I used to play on the same account. As such, I doubt they'd go out of their way to implement an option that lets you break their rules.
Seeing as you sign into XIV with an SE ID, and to get the discount the XIV account has to be linked with the XI account under a single SE ID, I don't think two separate XIV accounts can be signed in at the same time..
Tho I'm quite curious myself, if you have two different XIV accounts, and they're both linked under the same SE ID, are characters for both just shown at the character select? Or does one just disappear into a black hole somewhere o.0
Oh, yeah, I could have told you that. I got a warning from a GM 5 years ago in FFXI when I told her my fiance and I used to play on the same account. As such, I doubt they'd go out of their way to implement an option that lets you break their rules.
Yeah, I knew it was against the rules in FFXI. Was just going through their site looking for more info.
They would implement it so someone could have more than one account. Just like allowing more than one FFXI account on the same SE account. If they have a problem with it on FFXIV, they need to restrict FFXI as well.
Oh, yeah, I could have told you that. I got a warning from a GM 5 years ago in FFXI when I told her my fiance and I used to play on the same account. As such, I doubt they'd go out of their way to implement an option that lets you break their rules.
Yeah, I knew it was against the rules in FFXI. Was just going through their site looking for more info. They would implement it so someone could have more than one account. Just like allowing more than one FFXI account on the same SE account. If they have a problem with it on FFXIV, they need to restrict FFXI as well.
I hope they don't restrict it on XI, both mine and my fiance's accounts are linked to my SE account so that we could both get a mog satchel and use the same token. My son's account was also linked but he no longer plays.
So now the question is, can both be logged into at the same time?
Remoting into my home desktop to test now.
I'm guessing it knows which account is signed in, because the home desktop didn't prompt me about which account to use, and just went into service account 1. Going to disconnect once it loads, and see if it defaults to service account 2 on my laptop.
Either way, I am signed into both accounts right now without a message about disconnecting.
i'm betting yes. this isn't like having a diff character it should have been clear with the $ not $3 per character more like the base + character again is what they showed right? so 2 "payments" of $12.99?
also i know we're getting a discount but i forgot the details anyone know? I have 1 POL (with 1 main + 1 mule) and 1 FFXIV with 1 character. I already linked my POL and obviously my FFXIV is linked to same SE account also whats this going to be out the door after the 30-day trial?
PS i know XIV is cheaper and ***but $3 for a mule seems ridiculous hopefully gear/items/slots isn't a major issue
So now the question is, can both be logged into at the same time?
Remoting into my home desktop to test now.
I'm guessing it knows which account is signed in, because the home desktop didn't prompt me about which account to use, and just went into service account 1. Going to disconnect once it loads, and see if it defaults to service account 2 on my laptop.
Either way, I am signed into both accounts right now without a message about disconnecting.
Situation1:
Desktop: Signed into Service Account 1.
Laptop: Given the option to sign in to either account.
Situation2:
Laptop: Signed into Service Account 2.
Desktop: Doesn't ask which account to sign in to.
Situation3:
Laptop: At account selection screen.
Desktop: Given the option to sign in to either account.
i'm betting yes. this isn't like having a diff character it should have been clear with the $ not $3 per character more like the base + character again is what they showed right? so 2 "payments" of $12.99?
also i know we're getting a discount but i forgot the details anyone know? I have 1 POL (with 1 mule) and 1 FFXIV with 1 character. I already linked my POL and obviously my FFXIV is linked to same SE account also whats this going to be out the door after the 30-day trial?
PS i know XIV is cheaper and ***but $3 for a mule seems ridiculous hopefully gear/items/slots isn't a major issue
Mule characters, aka retainers, are only $1 extra a month. $3 is for an actual playable character.
i'm betting yes. this isn't like having a diff character it should have been clear with the $ not $3 per character more like the base + character again is what they showed right? so 2 "payments" of $12.99?
also i know we're getting a discount but i forgot the details anyone know? I have 1 POL (with 1 mule) and 1 FFXIV with 1 character. I already linked my POL and obviously my FFXIV is linked to same SE account also whats this going to be out the door after the 30-day trial?
PS i know XIV is cheaper and ***but $3 for a mule seems ridiculous hopefully gear/items/slots isn't a major issue
Mule characters, aka retainers, are only $1 extra a month. $3 is for an actual playable character.
Sorry would you please mind elaborating? I only saw an option that said 1 for $3 2 for $6 3 for $9 etc
What exactly do you mean retainers?
For "actual playable characters" Do you mean like what Krizz is doing being able to play 2 characters at the same time on different computers?
i'm betting yes. this isn't like having a diff character it should have been clear with the $ not $3 per character more like the base + character again is what they showed right? so 2 "payments" of $12.99?
also i know we're getting a discount but i forgot the details anyone know? I have 1 POL (with 1 mule) and 1 FFXIV with 1 character. I already linked my POL and obviously my FFXIV is linked to same SE account also whats this going to be out the door after the 30-day trial?
PS i know XIV is cheaper and ***but $3 for a mule seems ridiculous hopefully gear/items/slots isn't a major issue
Mule characters, aka retainers, are only $1 extra a month. $3 is for an actual playable character.
Sorry would you please mind elaborating? I only saw an option that said 1 for $3 2 for $6 3 for $9 etc
What exactly do you mean retainers?
Retainers are in game bazaars. They get the 80 slots of space just like a character does.
oh ok thanks, i barely played the beta so I didn't see anything like that. Only basically did character creation on the release last night didn't walk around much
You did not do the option for an extra $3 through right? You had to pay for another service which is another base fee $9.99 plus $3?
oh ok thanks, i barely played the beta so I didn't see anything like that. Only basically did character creation on the release last night didn't walk around much
You did not do the option for an extra $3 through right? You had to pay for another service which is another base fee $9.99 plus $3?
I'm going to add it to the FAQ on my site, but here's the short version:
Log in to http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/14481/1/
Go to 'select service'
click 'FFXIV'
'add a service account'
Put in your buddy code or FFXIV retail code
After that you will have to do the same steps as your first account under 'options list'.
Under 'Active Service Accounts' you'll see the two accounts listed, and be able to adjust each one separately. For the purpose of this test, I set the second account to 30 days with 1 character. The fee was canceled out by the buddy pass.
k thats what I was thinking.. eventually you'll be charged $12.99 x2 not taking into consideration the discounts from having POL tied to an SE account that is
for those of you who are providing ppl with buddy passes... there is not Tech support available specifically for buddy pass issues. And if the person already has a SQ.Enix account (ex FFXI) there is a chance the buddy account will somehow get linked to the FFXI account making it inaccessible should the passwords not match.
HAve been on phone with 3 representatives and they cannot figure out why the password reset for my son's buddy account comes up as changing the password for my FFXI account..
ok...let me clarify..sorry really pissed off at the momennt
my laptop has my FFXI account and a copy of my daughters FFXIV account on it. we decided to use a buddy pass to let my son play. WE set up an completely Independent Sq. enix account using his personal information. everything was fine...got in but was met with " down fro maintenance" window.
Tried this morning...ID or password was wrong...he opened his e-mail and got registration confirmation e-mail so we knew ID was not wrong. Went to "forgot password" hew got an e-mail with a link to change password, <fume> the link was to MY FFXI account not the new one created under his name
crux is how did his own Sq.Enix account get connected to mine,,,looked under my account and it's not there. only thing of mine on there is payment info
Well seeing as we're getting a load of threads pop up on different things popping into the game, I thought it would be easier if I made a general thread.
Firstly, I'd like to say the following:
If you want to come into this thread just to start shit with people who are going to buy XIV, please refrain from doing so. I'm not making you do this, but nearly every XIV thread so far has gone to the flame-core, and I'd rather keep at least one topic about the game that will be civil. If you have a personal opinion on the game, then feel free to vent it, but please do it in a positive way instead of flame-baiting. Thanks.
I thought I'd start off with some general information on the different aspects of the game. All this information has been gathered from The XIV website or interviews.
Here we go!
Story The Age of Adventure Men are wont to suffer
And forget wherein they’ve sinned
Ne’er hearkening back on tragedies past
Lest the Twelve might humble them
— Unknown
Countless moons have waxed and waned since wandering tribes from across Hydaelyn first arrived in Eorzea and settled its untamed lands. The benevolent deities who ruled the empty continent and its surrounding islands were impressed with the resilience of these primitive men and women, and in an act of mercy each saw fit to ensure their welfare.
These gods and goddesses soon came to be known as the Twelve, and the villages thrived in their light until the land was bespeckled with several independent city-states. Though, where man walks, strife follows, and for generations, these tiny nations carved out a history of blood and betrayal built upon broken oaths and the sun-bleached bones of the fallen.
However, the fate of the land would soon change. Not fifteen years past, a new threat appeared without warning from the east. Metal-clad warriors brandishing weapons that spewed streams of fire, fleets of behemoth airships belching oily smoke that would block out the sun for days at a time... A resistance was amassed, but to little avail, and it was not long before Ala Mhigo, once considered the most powerful of the remaining six Eorzean city-states, had fallen to the mighty Garlean Empire.
As the empire’s dreadnaughts continued their march of terror across the blood-soaked fields of the north, the remaining nations put aside their differences and clandestinely joined hands to form a loose alliance to ensure they not meet the same fate, should the invaders turn their eyes southward.
Fortunately, the invasion never came, and just as quickly as it had arrived, the empire was gone again. However, echoes of their grim message rang clear in the hearts of Eorzea’s people—its effect on them, profound and irreversible. The realm would never be the same.
And it was thus that Eorzea slipped into the “Age of Calm,” during which an uneasy peace prevailed.
To prepare for the coming storm, the first task of the newly-formed alliance was to fortify their defenses. In the previous era, few city-states maintained organized militaries, opting instead to hire the services of mercenaries and hedge knights to champion their causes. However, after the fall of Ala Mhigo, city guard units were restructured into legitimate standing armies which could be quickly called upon and mobilized if the need arose.
Unfortunately, this left a majority of the realm’s hireswords with nowhere to pledge their fealty, and with their livelihood ripped out from under them, many of these men and women resorted to acts of villainy to survive. For fear of the situation worsening and the land falling into chaos, several respected leaders from around Eorzea gathered together and formed a network of guilds to provide these lost souls with the opportunity to redeem themselves by aiding others.
Through the foresight and resolve of these leaders a new industry known as “adventuring” emerged, its advent helping usher in the current era—an era of hope in a time when shadows of uncertainty loom ever closer.
A Realm Divided
It is nigh on ten years since the fearsome beings known as the primals first appeared in these lands. Ten years since they were summoned forth by the destructive ambition of the beast tribes. Ten years, and still those tribes, drunk on the power granted them by the primals, continue to wreak havoc upon the free peoples of Eorzea.
To the northeast, the Garlean Empire stirs, casting an ominous shadow across the realm. Seeking dominion over the continent of Aldenard, the Garleans set out on a campaign of conquest, smiting all opposition with their superior technology and overwhelming military might. In a relentless drive to the south and west, they lay ruin to the once flourishing city-state of Ala Mhigo.
It is in the midst of this embattled Eorzea that a mysterious power surfaces. Known simply as the Echo, it is said cause the souls of those touched by it to resonate with others. And of this is born the ability to relive their past experiences—to see and feel them as though they were one’s own.
Can these seeds of the past somehow serve to sow hope for the future?
What is the origin of this eldritch power?
Is it a deific gift of righteousness? Or the deception of some sinister sorcery?
To what end has it been given?
The search for the answers to such questions falls to you. So go forth. Seek out and join your brethren. And together claim your place among legends in the annals of time.
— Diversity in Numbers —
Boasting the largest population in Eorzea, the Hyur came from neighboring continents and islands in three great migratory waves. With them they brought a sophisticated technology and complex ethos tempered by the breadth of the outside world. They rapidly became a driving force behind cultural progress, and are now widely attributed with spearheading advances in Eorzean civilization.
One of the Hyur’s strengths is the staggering variety of languages and social institutions they exhibit. This is said to account for their firm conviction in individual freedoms, though it also results in a relative lack of solidarity and group cohesion.
Two distinct groups now exist among the Hyur-Highlanders, denizens of mountainous areas, and Midlanders, who reside in lower elevations.
Midlander
The Midlander clan comprises over half of the total population of Eorzea’s Hyur. They have established themselves throughout every city in the realm and lead lives as diverse as their heritage. Trained in letters from infancy, the Midlanders are generally more educated than many of the other races and clans.
Highlander
The Highlanders derive their name from a long tradition of inhabiting Eorzea’s mountainous regions. Compared to their Midland brethren, the Highlanders are noticeably larger in build. These days, it is rare to see Highlanders save for those who fled Ala Mhigo after its fall, and now work in the other city-states as mercenaries and sellswords.
— A Tribe of One —
During the Age of Endless Frost, as the seas turned to ice and passage over them became possible, Eorzea saw an influx of foreign fauna to her shores. This in turn brought the hunting tribes which subsisted upon them, the modern descendants of whom are today known as the Miqo’te.
Since then, the Miqo’te have diverged into two physically distinguishable groups — the diurnal Seekers of the Sun and the nocturnal Keepers of the Moon. Both groups share a superb olfactory sense and powerful leg musculature, results of a long evolution geared towards hunting and predation.
Comparatively few in number, they maintain an insular group mentality, tending to avoid contact with the other races. Many individuals lead isolated lifestyles, even when residing in the more populous cities.
Seekers of the Sun
The self-proclaimed Seekers of the Sun are the diurnal clan of the Miqo’te race. Their preference for the warm light of day pervades all aspects of their culture, as is apparent in their devout reverence for Azeyma the Warden, goddess of the sun. They are perhaps known best for their striking eyes — the result of their vertically aligned pupils and faintly colored irises.
Keepers of the Moon
The nocturnal among the Miqo’te have dubbed themselves the Keepers of the Moon. Shying from the garish light of day, they revel in the shroud of night, and offer their piety to Menphina the Lover, goddess of the moon. The custom of applying war paint to the face is still regularly practiced by the Keepers of the Moon, enhancing their already distinctive appearance.
— More Clever by Half —
The Lalafell were originally a group of agriculturalists inhabiting the fertile islands of the south seas. With the introduction of transmarine commerce, they soon found their way to Eorzea via trade routes. They are now one of the more populous races and are well established throughout the region, though they remain averse to cold climates.
The short, rotund builds of the Lalafell belie an incredible agility, and their seemingly feeble legs are capable of carrying them long distances over any terrain. Many among them are also known for possessing highly developed and cunning intellects.
The Lalafell place a great deal of significance on familial bonds, but are by no means unfriendly to outsiders. This is evidenced by the fact that they continue to share prosperous relations with all of the other races of Eorzea.
Plainsfolk
The flat landscapes of the Plainsfolk’s home islands are dotted with the clan’s traditional thatched huts, beneath which lie intricate networks of underground passageways. Their distinct hair coloration — a myriad of earthy and grassy tones — mimics their native environment, and their long, pointy ears are said to be able to detect the faintest scampering of the prairie’s various fauna.
Dunesfolk
Perhaps the most distinctive aspect of Dunesfolk culture is its traditional dwellings — structures affixed to the backs of large beasts of burden. The luminous eyes of the Dunesfolk are the result of a glossy, protective layer which covers the pupil, an evolutionary response to the glaring sunlight of their home region. Many individuals wear a small gemstone on their forehead, representing their zodiacal sign.
— Noble and Refined —
The Elezen are a traditionally nomadic people who in former times claimed sole dominion over Eorzea, their presence predating that of the other races. Believing this prominence to be ordained by the gods, they came to develop an esteemed sense of honor and pride.
Their characteristically tall, slim physiques and elongated limbs are part of a successful adaptation to the land’s various environments. Indeed, it is said that their highly sensitive ears can discern the squeak of a field mouse at a distance of up to several malms.
The Elezen perceived the immigration of the Hyur as tantamount to invasion, and as a result the two share a past plagued by warfare. At present, however, they can be seen coexisting peacefully, the exception being the reclusive Duskwight Elezen.
Wildwood Elezen
For hundreds of years the Wildwood Elezen have lived in the safety of Eorzea’s lush forests. They possess an incredibly keen sense of sight — a contributing factor in their unparalleled expertise as archers. With the formation of the realm’s governments, many Wildwood ventured forth from the forests, drawn either to the exhilarating cosmopolitanism of the urban centers or the simple nomadism of the plains.
The Duskwight Elezen
The Duskwight Elezen have spent centuries in the peace and seclusion of Eorzea’s caves and caverns. They have developed an acute sense of hearing, capable of detecting the faintest of sounds. This natural gift, and the uncanny awareness it grants, has proven advantageous in the field of hand-to-hand combat. Many of the reclusive Duskwight resort to robbery and pillaging to survive, earning them the scorn of their woodland relatives.
— Size Matters —
The Roegadyn are a maritime people whose largest concentrations are found in the northern seas, by way of which they came to Eorzea.
They possess enormous, muscular builds and are known for the cultural emphasis they place on competition and unflinching courage, though tender, introspective individuals can also be found. Roegadyn in and around the Limsa Lominsa area are typically seamen putting in at port, but many have also settled permanently, becoming mercenaries, bodyguards, or even pirates by trade. Far away, deep in the mountains of Ul’dah, live mountain clans of reclusive Roegadyn known as the Hellsguard, said to have mastered the magical arts.
Sea Wolves
The Sea Wolves originally hail from the islands of the far north seas, where they still subsist as fishermen and women. Long ago, no vessel or coastal village was safe from their maritime brand of brutality. Now, it is not uncommon to see them employed as sailors or naval mercenaries on all manner of vessels.
Hellsguard
The Hellsguard are a clan of Roegadyn with body and mind tempered by the unforgiving heat of the volcanic regions they inhabit. Believing these mountains of flame to be gates to the underworld, their line has for centuries stood vigil over them to prevent the passage of souls back to the realm of the living. Their sheer girth and steely demeanor open to the Hellsguard a wide range of paths, from the martial to the monastic.