Pretty much exactly the *** you're spouting, about how everyone suffers and life is pointless.
Then I grew up.
You said you never suffered, how could you think everyone suffered, when you yourself never suffered?
What did you learn with your age that made you change your mind? (I've been attempting to get you to answer this for a while, but you've yet to tell me what is so great about existence).
Please quote where I said that I'd never suffered. Or are you just making assumptions again?
I learned that in reality there is happiness in the world, and not just suffering. I realised that I enjoyed life and so do billions others, I realised that being an emo is about as pointless as the appendix.
That's the thing, Ethics is making out he's had a hard life man, and thinks he see's it clearly... When the worst thing that's happened to him is maybe a member of his family has died? I don't know.
But you know, lets always be miserable because sometimes people suffer, Lets all dye our hair black and wear make up, and listen to Marilyn Manson whilst cutting our flesh and writing poetry.
And as for life being suffering, Perhaps your life but certainly not mine.
When you get hungry, horny, bored, what do you do? You fulfill those desires. Some you have to struggle to fulfill more than others, but struggling in any form is still suffering. Life itself is a struggle to exist. By implying your life isn't fundamentally the same as the rest of the life on this earth, I assumed you're saying you didn't suffer. Spin it how you want, life is suffering.
Life by itself has no intrinsic value, boredom proves that. It's quite obvious you're not sitting there just enjoying the fact you exist and are alive, you're getting your fix of suffering by attempting to satiate your desire to be out of boredom.
I'm not saying you have to be miserable. Calling life what it is, isn't being miserable, it's being aware. You can still have a good of a life as possible, and perhaps even lessen suffering as a whole, making the world a better place.
And as for life being suffering, Perhaps your life but certainly not mine.
When you get hungry, horny, bored, what do you do? You fulfill those desires. Some you have to struggle to fulfill more than others, but struggling in any form is still suffering. Life itself is a struggle to exist. By implying your life isn't fundamentally the same as the rest of the life on this earth, I assumed you're saying you didn't suffer. Spin it how you want, life is suffering.
Life by itself has no intrinsic value, boredom proves that. It's quite obvious you're not sitting there just enjoying the fact you exist and are alive, you're getting your fix of suffering by attempting to satiate your desire to be out of boredom.
I've got a suggestion for you.
Suicide.
Also spin that quote however you like
My life not being suffering =/= I don't suffer every now and then.
All you prove is that you have no real experience with the world.
My life not being suffering =/= I don't suffer every now and then.
All you prove is that you have no real experience with the world.
What is your point about suicide? It's a wonderful tool for when those who get more than their fare share of suffering can relieve themselves.
You said your life wasn't suffering. I said life was suffering. I gave reasons as to why it's suffering, you just keep disagreeing with no rebuttal to my point(s).
You just prove you can't handle the world as it is. How is life not a series of overcoming some form of suffering?
If it's just the fact you want to have the last word, that's fine. But don't pretend you're actually arguing my view with anything of substance. Apparently you forgot to leave the nuh uh defense behind when you were so young and emo.
My life not being suffering =/= I don't suffer every now and then.
All you prove is that you have no real experience with the world.
What is your point about suicide? It's a wonderful tool for when those who get more than their fare share of suffering can relieve themselves.
You said your life wasn't suffering. I said life was suffering. I gave reasons as to why it's suffering, you just keep disagreeing with no rebuttal to my point(s).
You just prove you can't handle the world as it is. How is life not a series of overcoming some form of suffering?
If it's just the fact you want to have the last word, that's fine. But don't pretend you're actually arguing my view with anything of substance. Apparently you forgot to leave the nuh uh defense behind when you were so young and emo.
I have. I've told you that I don't find the world a place full of suffering, which completely eradicates the point that the world is only suffering.
If one person, only one finds that they don't suffer 100% of the time, then your argument is done and shot.
You give simple examples of how the world is suffering.
Well, here you go, you say you're suffering when you get hungry. What about when you Have the best meal of your life? That'll bring joy. Just something as simple as that shows how there is an opposite coin to every situation. And not even just the simple examples you give. There are also things that can bring joy and not because they relieved suffering.
And about the suicide thing, it's sad that someone can't get past the suffering and get to the joyous parts in life. Yes, people will face hardships and struggles, but the phrase does go, "Whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger." It's true.
I have. I've told you that I don't find the world a place full of suffering, which completely eradicates the point that the world is only suffering.
If one person, only one finds that they don't suffer 100% of the time, then your argument is done and shot.
Also:
Do us a favour.
So again, to every point I made, your defense of your position is, "nuh uh".
Do us all a favor (an extra favor would not be to spell like a britwat) and stop posting your trite .jpeg excuse for the lack of anything worthwhile to say. You seem to be suffering from retardation and a lack of creativity.
I have. I've told you that I don't find the world a place full of suffering, which completely eradicates the point that the world is only suffering.
If one person, only one finds that they don't suffer 100% of the time, then your argument is done and shot.
Also:
Do us a favour.
So again, to every point I made, your defense of your position is, "nuh uh".
Do us all a favor (an extra favor would not be to spell like a britwat) and stop posting your trite .jpeg excuse for the lack of anything worthwhile to say. You seem to be suffering from retardation and a lack of creativity.
My argument wouldn't be 'Nuh-uh' if your argument wasn't 'Uh-huh'.
Also English originated from England surprisingly.
I have. I've told you that I don't find the world a place full of suffering, which completely eradicates the point that the world is only suffering.
If one person, only one finds that they don't suffer 100% of the time, then your argument is done and shot.
Also:
Do us a favour.
So again, to every point I made, your defense of your position is, "nuh uh".
Do us all a favor (an extra favor would not be to spell like a britwat) and stop posting your trite .jpeg excuse for the lack of anything worthwhile to say. You seem to be suffering from retardation and a lack of creativity.
My argument wouldn't be 'Nuh-uh' if your argument wasn't 'Uh-huh'.
Also English originated from England surprisingly.
I gave you reasoning behind my argument. You've given none.
I have. I've told you that I don't find the world a place full of suffering, which completely eradicates the point that the world is only suffering.
If one person, only one finds that they don't suffer 100% of the time, then your argument is done and shot.
Also:
Do us a favour.
So again, to every point I made, your defense of your position is, "nuh uh".
Do us all a favor (an extra favor would not be to spell like a britwat) and stop posting your trite .jpeg excuse for the lack of anything worthwhile to say. You seem to be suffering from retardation and a lack of creativity.
My argument wouldn't be 'Nuh-uh' if your argument wasn't 'Uh-huh'.
Also English originated from England surprisingly.
I gave you reasoning behind my argument. You've given none.
Also no ***.
So your entire "Hurrr American english durrrrr" argument capsized then.
Your reasoning: People suffer in the world so the world is full of suffering.
Through the same logic, people are happy in the world, the world is full of happiness.
You give simple examples of how the world is suffering.
Well, here you go, you say you're suffering when you get hungry. What about when you Have the best meal of your life? That'll bring joy. Just something as simple as that shows how there is an opposite coin to every situation. And not even just the simple examples you give. There are also things that can bring joy and not because they relieved suffering.
And about the suicide thing, it's sad that someone can't get past the suffering and get to the joyous parts in life. Yes, people will face hardships and struggles, but the phrase does go, "Whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger." It's true.
All that shows us is that you were suffering, and by fulfilling the desire that was causing suffering, you are rewarded by your brain. This doesn't change that you were suffering, and by fulfilling the desire causing the suffering you are biologically rewarded so you survive to blow your load another day. Same thing as an orgasm.
It's not about getting past the suffering, at the point of suicide, the suffering has past any possible promise of joy. Life isn't as romantic as we make it.
Ethics thinks the world only has suffering in it, and all life is futile.
Basic emo ***that most of went through in our non-conformist days.
It doesn't only have suffering. It has an excess of suffering.
It's not being emo, if that's how it is. Again tell me what possible joy is worth getting ripped apart by an alligator? Simply saying the scale is tipped in sufferings favor.
You give simple examples of how the world is suffering.
Well, here you go, you say you're suffering when you get hungry. What about when you Have the best meal of your life? That'll bring joy. Just something as simple as that shows how there is an opposite coin to every situation. And not even just the simple examples you give. There are also things that can bring joy and not because they relieved suffering.
And about the suicide thing, it's sad that someone can't get past the suffering and get to the joyous parts in life. Yes, people will face hardships and struggles, but the phrase does go, "Whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger." It's true.
All that shows us is that you were suffering, and by fulfilling the desire that was causing suffering, you are rewarded by your brain. This doesn't change that you were suffering, and by fulfilling the desire causing the suffering you are biologically rewarded so you survive to blow your load another day. Same thing as an orgasm.
It's not about getting past the suffering, at the point of suicide, the suffering has past any possible promise of joy. Life isn't as romantic as we make it.
If I'm blowing loads, I'm scared. But anyway.
That doesn't get to the point that not all happiness is caused by an ease of suffering. What about the things that generally just make you happy? E.G. Smelling the roses. Was I suffering because I didn't have that scent before? No. Did it make me happy when I did smell them? Yes.
Stop and smell the roses sometime.
Ethics thinks the world only has suffering in it, and all life is futile.
Basic emo ***that most of went through in our non-conformist days.
It doesn't only have suffering. It has an excess of suffering.
It's not being emo, if that's how it is. Again tell me what possible joy is worth getting ripped apart by an alligator? Simply saying the scale is tipped in sufferings favor.
Broken logic is broken. Your entire argument is based around the fact that we should be 'debbie downers' because life has suffering in it. Life also has joy and a slew of other emotions. Life is what we make it, not what others make it.
And what the hell, how often do people die to alligator related deaths? If your entire logic is "We suffer right before we die" then I don't know what to say.
Considering alligators rip apart their prey all the time, I would assume they've been doing it for a while. Suffering is suffering, doesn't have to be human to experience severe pain.
Considering alligators rip apart their prey all the time, I would assume they've been doing it for a while. Suffering is suffering, doesn't have to be human to experience pain.
More broken logic. It's becoming a trademark of yours.
Considering alligators rip apart their prey all the time, I would assume they've been doing it for a while. Suffering is suffering, doesn't have to be human to experience pain.
More broken logic. It's becoming a trademark of yours.
Broke in what way? Getting a bit tired of you saying things aren't that way, but you lack the mental capacity to state why it is broke or wrong.