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 Fenrir.Snick
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-09 23:08:18
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Why bother pretending PLD is a good tank? Christ ***, have any of you played with a good MNK? Seriously, especially you Yinsha, CDC had Klefth before he quit and he wasn't ***. If you weren't so busy having your head up your *** insisting on being NIN to everything you'd realize this ***.

Also if CDC didn't bring a PLD to *** everything, but I digress.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-09 23:09:25
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also whms need mythic to tank effectively
-na are pure VE, I don't see Yagrush being a dealbreaker unless I'm missing something. It's basically down to Flash and C4 for CE, which PLD has as well. WHM has greater potency + Stoneskin + Aquaveil; PLD has various semi-useful JAs + slightly stronger enmity kits.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-09 23:11:22
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also whms need mythic to tank effectively
-na are pure VE, I don't see Yagrush being a dealbreaker unless I'm missing something. It's basically down to Flash and C4 for CE, which PLD has as well. WHM has greater potency + Stoneskin + Aquaveil; PLD has various semi-useful JAs + slightly stronger enmity kits.
Yeah but it's only 300! And plds have dmg for CE
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-10-09 23:12:12
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Fenrir.Snick said:
Why bother pretending PLD is a good tank? Christ ***, have any of you played with a good MNK? Seriously, especially you Yinsha, CDC had Klefth before he quit and he wasn't ***. If you weren't so busy having your head up your *** insisting on being NIN to everything you'd realize this ***.

Also if CDC didn't bring a PLD to *** everything, but I digress.

I've low-manned and tanked with a mnk.... *cough cough*
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By Bahamut.Aiyana 2010-10-09 23:13:30
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also whms need mythic to tank effectively
-na are pure VE, I don't see Yagrush being a dealbreaker unless I'm missing something. It's basically down to Flash and C4 for CE, which PLD has as well. WHM has greater potency + Stoneskin + Aquaveil; PLD has various semi-useful JAs + slightly stronger enmity kits.

Cure V also. It is a static 400 VE regardless of how much HP it cures. (700 CE). I'm unsure of Cure VI cheats, but I imagine they might be possible with abyssea levels of hp/mp.
AoE na- are just like provokes for 8mp with no cooldown.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-09 23:14:32
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also whms need mythic to tank effectively
-na are pure VE, I don't see Yagrush being a dealbreaker unless I'm missing something. It's basically down to Flash and C4 for CE, which PLD has as well. WHM has greater potency + Stoneskin + Aquaveil; PLD has various semi-useful JAs + slightly stronger enmity kits.
Yeah but it's only 300! And plds have dmg for CE

WHM/NIN with K-club, Hexa strike spam GO!
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-09 23:14:51
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Bahamut.Aiyana said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also whms need mythic to tank effectively
-na are pure VE, I don't see Yagrush being a dealbreaker unless I'm missing something. It's basically down to Flash and C4 for CE, which PLD has as well. WHM has greater potency + Stoneskin + Aquaveil; PLD has various semi-useful JAs + slightly stronger enmity kits.
Cure V also. It is a static 400 VE regardless of how much HP it cures. (700 CE). I'm unsure of Cure VI cheats, but I imagine they might be possible with abyssea levels of hp/mp. AoE na- are just like provokes for 8mp with no cooldown.
Cure VI works like Cure V. But it's 400/800
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-10-09 23:18:02
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I am baffled by the concept of using anything but a DD tank. Unless you can't melee why the *** would use a non-dd tank?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-09 23:18:06
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Bahamut.Aiyana said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also whms need mythic to tank effectively
-na are pure VE, I don't see Yagrush being a dealbreaker unless I'm missing something. It's basically down to Flash and C4 for CE, which PLD has as well. WHM has greater potency + Stoneskin + Aquaveil; PLD has various semi-useful JAs + slightly stronger enmity kits.

Cure V also. It is a static 400 VE regardless of how much HP it cures. (700 CE). I'm unsure of Cure VI cheats, but I imagine they might be possible with abyssea levels of hp/mp.
AoE na- are just like provokes for 8mp with no cooldown.
You've got your CE/VE backwards, and that's horribly inefficient CE/MP. C3/4 cheats would be much more efficient.
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By Bahamut.Aiyana 2010-10-09 23:18:28
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Aiyana said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also whms need mythic to tank effectively
-na are pure VE, I don't see Yagrush being a dealbreaker unless I'm missing something. It's basically down to Flash and C4 for CE, which PLD has as well. WHM has greater potency + Stoneskin + Aquaveil; PLD has various semi-useful JAs + slightly stronger enmity kits.
Cure V also. It is a static 400 VE regardless of how much HP it cures. (700 CE). I'm unsure of Cure VI cheats, but I imagine they might be possible with abyssea levels of hp/mp. AoE na- are just like provokes for 8mp with no cooldown.
Cure VI works like Cure V. But it's 400/800

Ah well. Both of those spells still beat Cure III/IV cheats for CE generation I believe.

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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
You've got your CE/VE backwards, and that's horribly inefficient CE/MP. C3/4 cheats would be much more efficient.

Oops. Simple mistake, but you still got the idea?
SE doesn't like people spell tanking, so it is going to be inefficient any way you slice it. (Unless you're a BLU!)
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-09 23:19:11
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I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-09 23:19:42
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
No one cares.
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-09 23:29:33
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
No one cares.

When you say No one cares, Do you mean just you or everyone else?
Because No one cares that you don't care. Now pls STFU you troll :D <3
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-09 23:31:02
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
No one cares.

When you say No one cares, Do you mean just you or everyone else?
Because No one cares that you don't care. Now pls STFU you troll :D <3
you are the dumbest person
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-09 23:31:29
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I mean no one cares. NIN tanking was outclassed years ago and SE killed it off completely with the June update.
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-09 23:31:35
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ITT: Trolls trolling trolls.
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-09 23:32:04
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Fenrir.Snick said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
No one cares.
When you say No one cares, Do you mean just you or everyone else? Because No one cares that you don't care. Now pls STFU you troll :D <3
you are the dumbest person

The reason i say this is for you guys to get mad, Lol and it works so yes Stfu pls :P
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-09 23:32:37
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
No one cares.
When you say No one cares, Do you mean just you or everyone else? Because No one cares that you don't care. Now pls STFU you troll :D <3
you are the dumbest person

The reason i say this is for you guys to get mad, Lol and it works so yes Stfu pls :P
Please stay on topic. I am reporting this to the administrators.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-09 23:32:43
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Fenrir.Yinsha said:
ITT: Trolls trolling trolls.
Tell us about Nagi and Burtgang.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-09 23:32:55
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And yes cure IV/3 cheats are more efficient but cure V/IV is kinda nice for mules you are only using for hate generation and no one is playing them for making the mob run. Cause remember it's distance from the target not the caster that determines if you generate hate
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-09 23:33:10
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Fenrir.Yinsha said:
ITT: Trolls trolling trolls.
Tell us about Nagi and Burtgang.
I hear they are the best mythics cause of +20 enmity.
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-09 23:33:12
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Fenrir.Snick said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
No one cares.
When you say No one cares, Do you mean just you or everyone else? Because No one cares that you don't care. Now pls STFU you troll :D <3
you are the dumbest person
The reason i say this is for you guys to get mad, Lol and it works so yes Stfu pls :P
Please stay on topic. I am reporting this to the administrators.

O Gawd no pls anything but that
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-09 23:33:19
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Fenrir.Yinsha said:
ITT: Trolls trolling trolls.
Tell us about Nagi and Burtgang.
Burtgang is halfway decent now!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-09 23:33:59
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
The reason i say this is for you guys to get mad, Lol and it works so yes Stfu pls :P
Honest question, why do idiots always assume we're mad?
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-09 23:34:21
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
I SAID NINJA TANK NUFF SAID ***
No one cares.
When you say No one cares, Do you mean just you or everyone else? Because No one cares that you don't care. Now pls STFU you troll :D <3
you are the dumbest person
The reason i say this is for you guys to get mad, Lol and it works so yes Stfu pls :P
Please stay on topic. I am reporting this to the administrators.

O Gawd no pls anything but that
you are the dumbest person
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-09 23:34:25
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NIN is a great DD tanking sub!
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-09 23:35:05
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Look at the way you guys talk about ***and how pointless it is, and im the idiot. Lol I just posted random ***and your gonna get mad and insult me. Yes, you are mad.
EDIT: Honest question? How gay are you? I'm curious
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-09 23:35:29
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Look at the way you guys talk about ***and how pointless it is, and im the idiot. Lol I just posted random ***and your gonna get mad and insult me. Yes, you are mad.
Please stay on topic. I am reporting this to the administrators.
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-09 23:35:55
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Fenrir.Yinsha said:
ITT: Trolls trolling trolls.
Tell us about Nagi and Burtgang.
Tell you what? They are weapons. The end.
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