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To every single person still using a Hachiman Doma
 Bismarck.Maxse
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1197
By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-08-02 20:40:55
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Here is my current tp setup I get a 3 hit with this build beats any haste setup out there for obvious reasons.
If I can get a Cor I have him do SAM roll bring me to 2 hit build so ws hit ws hit ws. Kills anything short of fully upgraded relic.
4 store 10 evasion tp 10 acc 5 attack on helm
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サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 73
By Caitsith.Omicronceti 2010-08-02 20:41:25
Bismarck.Rinomaru said: I've barrowed a haub+1 and tried hours and hours of testing. No dice.
Also for rana it's out damaged. Then you're doing it terribly wrong cause there are tons of other people before you with tests that ***on your claim.
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 Ifrit.Vextra
サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 397
By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 20:45:39
Caitsith.Omicronceti said: Bismarck.Rinomaru said: I've barrowed a haub+1 and tried hours and hours of testing. No dice.
Also for rana it's out damaged. Then you're doing it terribly wrong cause there are tons of other people before you with tests that ***on your claim.
failed trolling....
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Asura.Tot
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 218
By Asura.Tot 2010-08-02 21:01:26
am r fail i has 6 shot scythe build /war?
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サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 73
By Caitsith.Omicronceti 2010-08-02 21:10:05
Ifrit.Vextra said: Caitsith.Omicronceti said: Bismarck.Rinomaru said: I've barrowed a haub+1 and tried hours and hours of testing. No dice.
Also for rana it's out damaged. Then you're doing it terribly wrong cause there are tons of other people before you with tests that ***on your claim.
failed trolling.... You got me bro.
Ifrit.Vextra
サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 397
By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 21:14:38
Caitsith.Omicronceti said: Ifrit.Vextra said: Caitsith.Omicronceti said: Bismarck.Rinomaru said: I've barrowed a haub+1 and tried hours and hours of testing. No dice.
Also for rana it's out damaged. Then you're doing it terribly wrong cause there are tons of other people before you with tests that ***on your claim.
failed trolling.... You got me bro.
/sigh not you....guess it kind of looked that way, my bad
Fenrir.Krazyrs
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 716
By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2010-08-02 21:26:14
yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
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Bismarck.Maxse
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1197
By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-08-02 21:30:51
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1308
By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-02 21:57:20
Bismarck.Maxse said: Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
I realize that you were trying to pull a Nabis.
However, that gear set that you made is actually only a 4hit build. Not a 3hit build.
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Ifrit.Vextra
サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 397
By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 22:02:06
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
I realize that you were trying to pull a Nabis.
However, that gear set that you made is actually only a 4hit build. Not a 3hit build.
no, try and figure it out again its a 3 hit
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サーバ: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2680
By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-08-02 22:05:30
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Here is my current tp setup I get a 3 hit with this build beats any haste setup out there for obvious reasons.
If I can get a Cor I have him do SAM roll bring me to 2 hit build so ws hit ws hit ws. Kills anything short of fully upgraded relic. i lol'd a LOT.
Cerberus.Juliusi
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 97
By Cerberus.Juliusi 2010-08-02 22:07:23
i hope i wont get flamed for this but.....
WTF
IS
A
Hachiman Doma
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Ifrit.Vextra
サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 397
By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 22:08:15
Cerberus.Juliusi said: i hope i wont get flamed for this but.....
WTF
IS
A
Hachiman Doma
good your on the right path
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1308
By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-02 22:18:52
Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
I realize that you were trying to pull a Nabis.
However, that gear set that you made is actually only a 4hit build. Not a 3hit build.
no, try and figure it out again its a 3 hit
No.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 40 StoreTP for a true 4hit Build.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 87 StoreTP for a true 3hit build.
That gear set that Maxse made only has 57 StoreTP, so not a 3hit build.
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Ifrit.Vextra
サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 397
By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 22:25:06
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
I realize that you were trying to pull a Nabis.
However, that gear set that you made is actually only a 4hit build. Not a 3hit build.
no, try and figure it out again its a 3 hit
No.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 40 StoreTP for a true 4hit Build.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 87 StoreTP for a true 3hit build.
That gear set that Maxse made only has 57 StoreTP, so not a 3hit build.
OMGNOWAI.....
whats 57+35?
edit: seeing as math is your weak point ill just tell ya...........ready?
92...tah dah
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1308
By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-02 22:36:49
Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
I realize that you were trying to pull a Nabis.
However, that gear set that you made is actually only a 4hit build. Not a 3hit build.
no, try and figure it out again its a 3 hit
No.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 40 StoreTP for a true 4hit Build.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 87 StoreTP for a true 3hit build.
That gear set that Maxse made only has 57 StoreTP, so not a 3hit build.
OMGNOWAI.....
whats 57+35?
edit: seeing as math is your weak point ill just tell ya...........ready?
92...tah dah
Hahah... my bad.
Math's not my weak point believe it or not;however, I clearly completely missed the StoreTP job trait and merits from SAM. I was merely going by the StoreTP from gear.
That gear set does give a 3hit build then, yes.
By Rangappa 2010-08-02 22:37:15
Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
I realize that you were trying to pull a Nabis.
However, that gear set that you made is actually only a 4hit build. Not a 3hit build.
no, try and figure it out again its a 3 hit
No.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 40 StoreTP for a true 4hit Build.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 87 StoreTP for a true 3hit build.
That gear set that Maxse made only has 57 StoreTP, so not a 3hit build.
OMGNOWAI.....
whats 57+35?
edit: seeing as math is your weak point ill just tell ya...........ready?
92...tah dah
lmao GiazzFAIL.
Ifrit.Vextra
サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 397
By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 22:38:42
np its cool, not like anyone would actually use that build..........................
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1308
By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-02 22:38:48
Rangappa said: Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Ifrit.Vextra said: Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Fenrir.Krazyrs said: yey no banhammer for meh :o
keito: dmg91/stp+5
Thats only a 6 hit. My 3 hit build is superior for obvious reasons (3 > 6)
I realize that you were trying to pull a Nabis.
However, that gear set that you made is actually only a 4hit build. Not a 3hit build.
no, try and figure it out again its a 3 hit
No.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 40 StoreTP for a true 4hit Build.
With a 999 delay weapon you need 87 StoreTP for a true 3hit build.
That gear set that Maxse made only has 57 StoreTP, so not a 3hit build.
OMGNOWAI.....
whats 57+35?
edit: seeing as math is your weak point ill just tell ya...........ready?
92...tah dah
lmao GiazzFAIL.
I know, That was fail... lol
Ifrit.Vextra
サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 397
By Ifrit.Vextra 2010-08-02 22:40:12
well now i think we can quietly let this thread die...
Bismarck.Maxse
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1197
By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-08-02 22:44:09
Ifrit.Vextra said: np its cool, not like anyone would actually use that build..........................
Why not I outparse people all the time using that setup.
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 55
By Phoenix.Cythriell 2010-08-07 21:02:12
Not everyone will have the gil for an osode when you want them to.
Fact is, there are situations where a domaru makes sense, stat wise and economically, some people need the STP in their WS set to maintain a 5 or maybe 6 hit.
You made a point about osode+hachi but you see people arguing about cost. The osode alone costs far more than a domaru for +2 STR
I am using a domaru atm as my gear isn't as optimal as it could be and I need the STP for a 5 hit.
Eventually I plan on getting Usu body/feet, Rajas, Rose Strap and White Tathlum to bring my Keitonotachi to a 5 hit without Carbonara.
Until then I will make use of gear like Domaru unless other STP ws peices come to mind.
If I swap out a perle for a domaru, not only do I retain the same STR in body, I can unequip my thew bomblet for an additional 2 STR or put on my AF pants for an additional 3 STR.
fyi playtime is 40 days, I havn't had time to get stuff like enkidu's subligar.
If anyone can suggest a better body (or other slot) alternative that keeps me in my 5 hit, please, go ahead, I'm up for suggestions.
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サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1304
By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-07 21:05:26
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サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-07 21:06:27
Odin.Dirtyfinger said: 6hit
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 Phoenix.Maeya
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 127
By Phoenix.Maeya 2010-08-07 22:10:58
Odin.Dirtyfinger said: 6hit Wtf {Really?}
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サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 55
By Phoenix.Cythriell 2010-08-07 22:13:29
o hey awsum display pic u hav ther
Phoenix.Maeya
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 127
By Phoenix.Maeya 2010-08-07 22:14:31
Thanks =) I think it's pretty appropriate.
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1304
By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-07 22:35:20
Phoenix.Maeya said: Odin.Dirtyfinger said: 6hit Wtf {Really?}
Yes if..
Phoenix.Cythriell said: Eventually I plan on getting Usu body/feet, Rajas, Rose Strap and White Tathlum to bring my Keitonotachi to a 5 hit without Carbonara.
you have none of this.
Why?
Many reasons, primarily lack of accuracy and haste. It shows you have Rajas Ring so I'm a little confused as to what gear you do and don't have from this list above but I'll presume you're without Usukane for the time being.
It looks like you chose the STP+5 Keitonotachi so you'd need 12 STP on top to reach a 5hit which would mean you'd have to use Hachiman Kote and probably Hachiman Sune-ate if you don't have the Rose Strap/Chivalrous Chain combo.
Without Byakko's Haidate that puts you at 9% Haste, and guessing you have 8/8 GKT with capped skill to match would net you 424acc if using Marinara Pizza. That isn't all that great to be honest so on anything worthwhile you'd probably miss at least once rendering your 5hit void and taking a lot longer to melee again than the high haste/accuracy 6hit counterpart.
Again, I have no idea what your sets are to be specific enough, and I don't mean to sound rude but it's late and I suffer from insomnia. ^^
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サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 55
By Phoenix.Cythriell 2010-08-07 22:57:22
I had all the above gear on my last char, this char has a much worse build for 5 hit.
I TP in Keitono, tath, rajas, chiv, brutal, acp body +4 stp +10 acc, shini haidate and use carbonara to maintain 5 hit.
I know shini body and perle pants would be better but I care enough about not wanting my character looking terrible.
Currently I only cap on pretty much everything I do outside abyssea with that build, maintaining 15% haste with swift.
However in abyssea, on mandies/bats/bugards I have about 81% acc, this is where I switch to my 6 hit.
Until I get byakkos/usu at least, which would push me up to 90% acc on abyssea mobs. I am not considering wasting carbonara in abyssea.
When I do get haidate, usu feet, pcc and a cuchu I will easily cap on abyssea mobs with carbonara. Until then I'm using 5 hit everywhere outside abyssea (I don't do eg) and 6 hit pizza inside abyssea.
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 207
By Sylph.Ashaaman 2010-08-07 23:15:05
Just because I didn't feel like copy/pasting
Edit: If you're putting Usu Body/A Torq/Dusk Gloves +1 etc in your sets... Why not Hachiryu Haidate?
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You know who you are, assuming you know how the shortcut works to start your browser.
I'm going to be honest... If you are still using a Domaru, you are nothing short of an imbecile...
Let's look at alts for a Domaru, shall we?
 haubergeon - On Asura = 38K, at most 50K on Ifrit. Solid piece for TPing in, can't go wrong with it. And cheap as hell... Speaking of cheap...
 perle hauberk - On Asura = 15K, at most again on Ifrit for 25K. Practically a Domaru +0.5 for WSes, and a Hauby 0.8 for TPing in (Assuming you don't have the full set, I can only assume if you have a Domaru you don't have a Rose Grip, Rajas Ring or Goading Belt to support Full Perle and a 6 hit though), you can't argue with it, it is the best you will get for the price short of buying a single Bonanza Marble and somehow winning with some huge amount of fluke.
In short, it is no longer about price, or difficulty of obtainability, you could do 20 minutes (if not less) of Abyssea and have that body, or you could simply farm a little, 1 and a half stacks of Ladybugs wings (Roughly) is all it would take.
In summary/TL;DR: You look like an idiot wearing a Domaru. NPC it, and move on to something better.
(Sidenote: On most servers Domaru are AHing for cheaper than they NPC for, which is 18K btw)
/rantoff
Edit: Let the ratedown commence btw, it's their game, they pay for it, etc etc.. They can do better for themselves.
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