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By Areayea 2013-09-06 00:10:14  
Shiva.Bailiegrace said: »
Ok! I am trying Varus out!
We get in at level 4 and someone flipped out that I picked Smite :3
I didn't do too bad but will try heal & ghost next time.




why they get mad O.o it's a bot game for gods sake XD
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By Shiva.Bailiegrace 2013-09-06 00:30:45  
LOL!
Well, We are doing intermediate now and not winning :\
We have some Ahole who is only going in to die :\
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By Asura.Sthrnrebel 2013-09-06 02:29:48  
Areayea said: »
Shiva.Bailiegrace said: »
Ok! I am trying Varus out!
We get in at level 4 and someone flipped out that I picked Smite :3
I didn't do too bad but will try heal & ghost next time.




why they get mad O.o it's a bot game for gods sake XD


Because one of the requirements for about 75% of the LoL players to "have fun" is to be a gigantic raging douchebag for any, all, and no reason whatsoever.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-09-06 05:26:34  
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Oh my god. This is taking the #1 spot for best skin ever.

Forecast Janna is pretty good too, the quotes give me as much of a smile as Vi did when she came out.
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By Shiva.Bailiegrace 2013-09-06 10:45:47  
That time you try exchanging an Arcade Hecarim skin in for playing a game with you...and they decline ._.

Edit:

Why can give me pointers on Varus or other Marksman type champions?

I enjoyed playing varus but once I was stuck in the path & wrath of aduo (last night was Kog'maw+ malphite) it was no contest.

Is there something I can do different with varus or should I pick another Marksman champ if I intend on going into ranked games? I know, it's in the future but I want to learn a champ soon. I don't want to level/learn Varus and find that he can't hold his own at later levels.
 
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By Shiva.Bailiegrace 2013-09-06 19:07:29  
I am looking over the noob forum and see a lot of people there that are posting at level 15-20 and even 30. These people are saying they still feel like a noob or reasons they can't get right....


So, how do I prevent that ._.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-09-06 19:47:51  
there are currently some ADCs that are worse than the others (See: Sivir, Lucian)
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-09-07 01:28:16  
Shiva.Bailiegrace said: »
I am looking over the noob forum and see a lot of people there that are posting at level 15-20 and even 30. These people are saying they still feel like a noob or reasons they can't get right....


So, how do I prevent that ._.
LoL is the kind of game that takes a very long time to learn and master.

This is similar to a fighting game but it's worse since the mechanics and data change all the time. Just be patient and try to go at your own pace.

By the time you reach lv 30, you will hardly have any deep knowledge, for many reasons. First because it takes a certain number of games to roughly learn a champ, second because you'll have to farm runes which will slow down your champion farming and therefore, champion learning.

If we say that it takes 20~ games to roughly learn a champ, you usually reach lv 30 in I believe 300~ games, there are 115 champs as of Lucian release. Patience is key.
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By Shiva.Bailiegrace 2013-09-07 02:12:59  
Interesting!

I have been doing all that I can to learn & really enjoy Varus.
I think my current build is different but will pay off if I have support with me.

Bloodthirster
Runann's Hurricane
Static Shiv
Blade of the ruined King
Infinity Edge.

I understand that Runann's hurricane isn't for everyone but I enjoy it.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-09-07 02:27:11  
Seems a bit heavy on AS but I'm not used to Varus and exploiting his passive so I don't know, I'm more used to single AS item marksmen.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-09-07 06:34:41  
i think you'll have plenty of knowledge by 30, and it's really not at all that complicated.
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-09-07 07:56:18  
Last Whisper is pretty much a mandatory piece on an ADC

Not so much at lower levels where every wants to do tonnes of damages and all so they all build glass cannon
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-09-07 08:02:15  
This game isn't hard if you use the different resources at your disposal
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-09-07 08:04:30  
Only issue with probuilds is that it's pulling data off the servers in a pretty odd way as some people aren't updating properly while others are
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-09-07 08:05:06  
Are you trying to tell me I don`t know anything and everything about LoLÉ
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-09-07 08:07:21  
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Are you trying to tell me I don`t know anything and everything about LoLÉ

Absolutely
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-09-07 08:09:32  
Well, sir, I think you`re a bronze V noob
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-09-07 08:10:02  
A couple things to think about bailie. One of the core items of an adc build is Last Whisper. It reduces enough armor that if any amount of armor is built it will tend to up your damage more than any other single item, especially late game. Also keep in mind it shreds natural armor that comes from leveling too, so it helps against every champ, whether they build armor or not.

From the build I'd eliminate hurricane or bloodthirster/botrk. Phantom dancer/static shiv synergize too well with infinity edge. Keep in mind that that your effective life steal will go up the more damage you you do, so any offensive item you get will increase your life steal. Having two ls items won't increase your survivability all that much in teamfights, because you're either getting burst down or you aren't.

The last item is situational, if you're getting focused in teamfights you should build a defensive or defensive hybrid item like warmogs or mercurial. If you're getting good peels or good positioning could go full offensive. Cliched, but you'll do more damage alive than dead.

Finally if game goes super late you can always rep boots for another PD or something.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-09-07 08:11:54  
it is hard if you have a nasus that refuses to fight a 5v4 game because he wants an hour long game so his q can hit 1k (cuz mr doesn't exist), and tries his hardest to deny farm and kills to the rest of the team.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-09-07 09:33:41  
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
it is hard if you have a nasus that refuses to fight a 5v4 game because he wants an hour long game so his q can hit 1k (cuz mr doesn't exist), and tries his hardest to deny farm and kills to the rest of the team.

look

trust me when I say I know that feel

Building and whatever is normally not hard though, regardless of how your team is playing
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-09-07 10:10:58  
Shiva.Bailiegrace said: »
Interesting!

I have been doing all that I can to learn & really enjoy Varus.
I think my current build is different but will pay off if I have support with me.

Bloodthirster
Runann's Hurricane
Static Shiv
Blade of the ruined King
Infinity Edge.

I understand that Runann's hurricane isn't for everyone but I enjoy it.
Theres a cap for attack speed at 2.5. I'm pretty sure you are hitting that cap if not more, not to mention that Varus' passive wont proc since youre capped.

You either drop Runann's or you drop Static Shiv and build a Last whisper to keep your damage as effective as possible.

Theres many ways to go about building your ADC:

BotRK - Phantom Dancer - Last Whisper - Defense/Blood thirster - Infinity Edge/Defense

Infinity Edge - Phantom Dancer - Last Whisper - Defense/BT - Defense/BotRK

Blood thirster - Phantom Dancer - Last Whisper - Defense/Infinity Edge- Defense/BotRK

Thats usually your damage build, depending on how your laning phase is going, team comp, enemy team comp, may determine which way you start, or just how much farm you have on your first back :P That being said 5th or 6th slot may take up a defensive item of your liking(which is why I added that "defense" part), if not, if you feel your team can protect and peel for you, then the respective offensive item is listed.

Mind you , you can always swap some things around to best fit your situation, need more pushing power? build a Statikk shiv.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-09-07 11:00:52  
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-09-07 11:50:38  
"I will call the police, you fit some description I'm sure" pure gold.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-09-07 11:51:24  
Draven mains do nothing but *** and copy Wildturtle OMG lol
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-09-07 13:36:16  
best thing you can get for your adc is a good support.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-09-07 14:09:06  
Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
best thing you can get for your adc is a good team.
fixed that for you
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-09-07 14:10:42  
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Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
best thing you can get for your adc is hito's mom.
fixed that for you
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-09-07 14:11:09  
Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
Odin.Hitoseijuro said: »
Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
best thing you can get for your adc is hito's mom.
fixed that for you
She is going to throw, just saying~
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By Shiva.Bailiegrace 2013-09-07 14:50:58  
Thank you everyone for your pointers!
I have quite a few friends who don't mind holding my hand and supporting me (for now).

I will go another round tonight and do the sets you recommend to see the differences.
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