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 Asura.Dajociont
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By Asura.Dajociont 2013-08-18 20:16:38  
so, you admit to afk farming and not helping, and i'm wrong (and everyone else i guess) because we pointed it out? i wasn't rude, was just pointing out you should be more considerate. it's not worth arguing about because you're wrong and you know it, but you still have some point to prove and i don't care to find out what it is so i'll just leave it alone.

"i'm wrong but my feelings are important so i'll argue until i feel better about myself" etc
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 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-08-18 20:21:22  
It's not about being wrong or right. You're still talking about being bad which is irrelevant. The point was to not be an *** that night, that was the whole point.

Hevans and some other people went against it, it should have stopped at this point. I did play bad, but so did many people. However, only two acted like ***, and you happened to back them up by focusing on "you played bad though".

You're merely missing the point, don't worry.
 Shiva.Gansito
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By Shiva.Gansito 2013-08-18 20:21:28  
idk what is more time consuming 1) reading all these post or 2)trying to figure out why i read all these post...
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 Ragnarok.Hevans
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-08-18 20:27:41  
the point was never that you played bad. it was that you freaked out after one negative comment. you got pissy about it and responded with a rude attitude. as soon as someone else suggested that you were being irrational and that you actually might of been part of the problem in the game going bad you pulled this circle jerk card.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-08-18 20:43:07  
this is silly
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 Asura.Dajociont
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By Asura.Dajociont 2013-08-18 20:43:53  
not as silly as you, you silly sillerton
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 Odin.Minefield
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-08-18 20:49:12  
Well then.
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 Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-08-18 20:58:12  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
It's not about being wrong or right. You're still talking about being bad which is irrelevant. The point was to not be an *** that night, that was the whole point.

Hevans and some other people went against it, it should have stopped at this point. I did play bad, but so did many people. However, only two acted like ***, and you happened to back them up by focusing on "you played bad though".

You're merely missing the point, don't worry.

I know you're French and all, but you should really stop playing the victim.
 Fenrir.Mewgoat
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By Fenrir.Mewgoat 2013-08-18 21:41:42  
r3g1stry and i have fun, even with bad teammates (or myself having a bad start due to a connection issue). Never have any anger goin either way from our matches
 Fairy.Spence
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-08-19 02:19:42  
Let's just all uninstall and feel bad because we're bad.
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 Fenrir.Queazy
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By Fenrir.Queazy 2013-08-19 07:19:34  
Leagues is the cause of all the anger in the world, im simply waiting for it to spark World War 3.

Ppl get so angry so fast over this game. only ppl that remotely have the right to get mad over LOL is the pros because they actually are losing money etc etc. But normal players are losing nothing, hell you dont even pay a sub fee so its not even like you're losing out on money and not having a good time.

I dunno i guess im just cynical, i like losing, i honestly like losing better than winning unless its a very close match. I played from like lvl 10-30 with friends that were diamond and gold league and got facerolled all the way to 30 lol. I loved every minute of it.

I dunno i guess i look a lost match as a match where i learned something. at least you know you can improve from the match. Matches where you just stomp the oponent generally are boring by minute 20 and from then its just waiting for the inevitable surrender
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 Fairy.Spence
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-08-19 07:35:56  
For arguments sake, you're saying I shouldn't get mad at something just because I'm not losing money out of it? I don't like losing. Especially when I consistently play well. Now I've gotten over the whole raging thing, but it's still frustrating.

So you like to lose, that's cool. SOme of us don't.
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By DracoFox 2013-08-19 09:31:49  
Well, I've finally found my fun in this game to be honest.
"ARAM"
If anyone wants to join me, I'm usually on from 7am-12pm EST.
As for the weekends, I'm usually on at all hours of the day.
Tag: TintedCorn

Remember... It's all random... Have fun.
By misacat 2013-08-19 10:14:11  
Fairy.Spence said: »
Let's just all uninstall and feel bad because we're bad.
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(Edit: not directed at anyone, just got reminded of this >.>)
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 Odin.Minefield
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-08-19 10:38:36  
No fun allowed! tl;dr down there~

But to reiterate to what Spence said, losing can be pretty irritating, when certain circumstances are met.

i.e. the other night custom matches, they were suppose to be for fun, but of course the sensation of winning got the better of some of us. Win or lose they were suppose to be just for fun, and were suppose to help people, but there wasn't a time afterwards to really explain too much of how each game went down.

The purpose was to pit newbs and veteran players, to teach them how the vets actually did things, and why they did things during the matches. Over-extending, last hitting, objective importance and timing, warding placement, lane pressure and freezing, etc.

Of course those things are common sense to people already, I won't deny that, but it was the purpose of those games to reinforce those things so the newbs can practice stuff like that for later games they play, with our without us again.(which is seems will never happen again)

Game 1: It started out fine, teams were even, sure it was dandy but over-extending started to be a problem. Our aggressiveness was also getting the better of us, getting into terrible engagements and being counter-played. And also want to go over routing yourself back to your team when the other team is pressuring unto us. As in, please don't run right in front of the enemy team, try and take an alternate route to get back to us without singling yourself out, over and over.

Game 2: Not much to explain what that game did was really make it one-sided it seemed, and tbh it was the closest game that we were actually trying to accomplish. We should've stopped there, but some people wanted to keep going, so it gave us no time to explain on the outcome of that match, and what people should've did to try and counter what we did. We were very aggresive pushing the lanes, sometimes overextending ourselves, but I didn't see much jungle pressure bottom so we kept going. Therefore in that matter, that gave us dragon control, and that allowed us to also roam to middle/Purple blue buff area to counter-jungle. Ward placement there would've been key to try and stop us. Yes Lolserj did play Karthus mid with tele/revive, but be prepared for that, it's a very strategic combo, as people probably noticed after the fight around baron as he came up behind without annoying noticing and slaughtered everyone. I didn't pay too much attention top that game, so I can't say much about that, sorry.

Game 3: Where to begin...heh. This is the game that shouldn't have happened in the first place almost. But this time it wasn't really teaching anyone anything, it was just playing games with people from AH, and not randoms, but same concept of a regular match. Me and Draven bot were doing fine pushing our lane, but that also put a big target on us, we were the biggest threat so the enemy jungle kept repressuring us 3v2 bottom to counter that which was absolutely perfect. Even with ward placement, he took routes to sneak past that and counter ou0r engagements at every move. Therefore that made Vayne spiral out of control and we couldn't do anything to stop that without our own jungle assistance. That was probably were most of the anger was coming from was the lack of assistance in lanes from jungler(not taking a personal shot, please don't mistake this for anything and the such), but it also was mid as well that played a role that could've stopped that from ever happening, coming bottom when theirs did as well, which was a Zilean which even if we killed the Vayne, she would've revived. i.e. the tri-bush incident~. As for top, Chuu isn't a 100% veteran player, and I hear she was pushing hard and over-extending, but I wasn't aware of it so someone could've said something to counter that, so I apologize for not noticing this. But to the bottom spiraling out of control, and with mids/jungles assistance, we were hopeless down there. I couldn't place wards because it'd end up killing me, i.e. dragonpit and their control after my pink. I didn't see Wukong one time in any of our fights, because he practically didn't need to at late-game because Vayne was so far ahead, so he could just camp our jungle and push lanes without trouble.

Idk this is all my two-cents and such, none of this is meant on ANY personal level to anyone that played any of those games, and feel free to counter anything I said with your own, because like I said I didn't see a lot of what happened.

Morale of the story: Nobody should be mad, this ***was suppose to be for fun, so lets not blow this ***out proportion like it was.

tl;dr Games didn't do what they were suppose to do, so I'm trying to explain it best I can with my derp response.
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 Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-08-19 11:05:05  
Not sure why I read this, and I don't know who all was involved in this match or if communication was on Skype/Vent/in type, but I will say that text leaves a lot to misinterpretation since some people can't convey tone. Keep in mind that doling out constructive criticism in type mid-game gets a little dicey because someone may only have a matter of seconds to bang out instructions to people, which in itself, can be frustrating since you can't be as thorough as you want and/or need to be. You have to give a little leeway to each other, considering the circumstances. Especially when someone is trying to help you while taking care of their own assigned job/position. It's all in how you, yourself, absorb the advise. Whether it's help or an insult is up to you, and that's where things can get messy...INTERPRETATION.

I've never known Hev, Lolserj, Spence, Dame, Misa or Volk to get overly snappy with people for no reason. Just throwing that out there.

EDIT: Also, Mos and I played a round with Hev after the fact, and everything was fine. No post-loss attitude. Nothing. He just said he came out of a dirty match, bad jungler, and shook it off.
 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-08-19 11:46:03  
Odin.Minefield said: »
Everything.
Pretty much.

You explained it better than anyone else.

Bahamut.Serj said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
It's not about being wrong or right. You're still talking about being bad which is irrelevant. The point was to not be an *** that night, that was the whole point.

Hevans and some other people went against it, it should have stopped at this point. I did play bad, but so did many people. However, only two acted like ***, and you happened to back them up by focusing on "you played bad though".

You're merely missing the point, don't worry.

I know you're French and all, but you should really stop playing the victim.
Telling this to the person who is literally alone vs X people still going at it like kids, you being part of said kids.

I don't even have to slap a nationality on you to tell you that you simply are an international idiot.

Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Keep in mind that doling out constructive criticism in type mid-game gets a little dicey because someone may only have a matter of seconds to bang out instructions to people, which in itself, can be frustrating since you can't be as thorough as you want and/or need to be.
Pretty much, but people think that throwing "*** you, I hate you" as an opener will actually make things go better, or it at least make them feel better so they just do it anyway.

I would have never said anything outside of the "I'm gonna dive then back off immediately" if it didn't reach this point.
 Odin.Minefield
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-08-19 11:52:43  
Here's a bonus pic for the not-so-veteran players, for exact numbers of things:

Aka, this is why objectives are more important than kills, majority of the time.

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 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-08-19 11:55:14  
I think the best SS I took of the three matches was the Pentakill.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-08-19 11:55:32  
you've been persistently abrasive since the match. you were the first to start slinging mud in the thread and you're still at it. maybe just walk away and let it die. the whole, "everyone is ganging up on me" card is sad. it's like crazy people on the street who think they are jesus. no matter how many people walking by say, dude get off the box, stop preaching, and even though you might be an ok guy the screaming has to stop, they refuse to believe the world is different than how they see it.

if it will end all of this. i did bad in two games. it's cause i'm a bronze tier nub piece of ***. i'm also an *** and rage. i apologize for my blatantly uncalled for textual assault against your skills, intelligence, and character. i started it all and i suck. i'm going to go ahead and uninstall, but everyone blacklist me just to be safe.


*edit* also, i didn't say *** you i hate you, til after you started being a smug ***. i told you that, and then i was pretty much done with talking to you until this stuff came back up here. however, we can all just admit i was at fault and should stop talking about any of this.
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By Shiva.Gansito 2013-08-19 13:05:44  
i think chuu was doing well. They did stop me from getting lots of farm by pushing me and zoning me well all the way to my turret. A ward could have stopped the ganks from jarvan. Jarvan only went to my lane once if i remember correctly. I notice they didn't take advantage of when i was away from the minions they didn't really freeze the lane well. Also when i would try and get a last hit they would not punish me for getting it. At times i would walk up to a minion next to them and they would just go back and forth. On the exchanges they would out damage me early game. They should have taken advantage here since the dmg i would do to them seemed insignificantly less to the dmg they were doing to me. Also when they would use their abilities there where times when they would just unleash on my clone. Many times they didn't really use their combos when i was out of place, they would have killed me easily. A bit of practice with the last hitting, knowing when you can win at exchanging dmg, and practicing with freezing a lane would make them a great player. Overall i think they did well. Nothing a little training can't fix.

EDIT: from what my nephew was telling me bot was very good. Said that the opposings team's bot lane was zoning our bot lane well and was out cs'ing us. Except that the overextending was and easy target to go after. He was having much fun. Since he usually just plays solo que.
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 Odin.Minefield
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-08-19 13:31:54  
he would never let me kill lu >:c
 Shiva.Gansito
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By Shiva.Gansito 2013-08-19 14:06:43  
Yeah >< he was trying since it was his first time playing with the ffxiah community and didn't want to disappoint
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-08-19 14:07:33  
Tell him he did absolutely perfect on countering us!

but Lu's soul will still me mine in the end
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2013-08-19 17:41:44  
Odin.Minefield said: »
he would never let me kill lu >:c
Odin.Minefield said: »
Tell him he did absolutely perfect on countering us!

but Lu's soul will still me mine in the end
(*/ω\*)
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By Areayea 2013-08-19 21:26:36  
lol ganzo <3. minefield too....
teh rest of you... let it go, serj, daj, and hevans... if you really considered that game a "waste of time" because you lost, what happens when you used to do a ballista match a long time ago and lost... did you blame your team for not getting petras, no you just did your job and if you did it fine you were satisfied, Zed I love ya buddy but you just gotta let this one go, it's not tragic anymore, now it's just sad.

here's my conception of LoL raging (and how much I care about wins/losses)...

Solo/duo queue ranked- I used to care a lot, don't now cuz in difficult bronze 4 now I just feel bad for anyone who I play with and tell them to practice with me in normals, I usually do get a wii bit frustrated if I losing cuz people should be practicing with normals... (in otherwords obviously not doing well (No cs is a good example of this <or not warding as a support despite me asking them...>/afking/raging)

Normals- this is one of the lesser areas to get mad you can get a tiny bit mad, but no reason to since it doesn't really reflect anything besides it's better to lose normals since you get matched with weaker players then you look like you're a god (like games you go 40/2).

Customs- NEVER EVER EVER get mad because it's like playing brenner... you just literally do it for fun... if you get mad... all your friends that joined you need to block you. it literally means ***... I mean even normals kinda have a lolking ranking, but not really... customs mean ***


absolute ***


your game- wasn't the purpose to make the newbies better, seems like you guys did a DAMN good job if they beat you so bad... also the lane match up... a vayne vs any adc = early sucks mid = if you don't focus vayne everyone dies. that's just my opinion and again customs mean ***... no need to rage anyone, and if you really are wasting your time, then I suggest you have no friends and go solo queue all day... because if you can't handle losing in a custom you literally are the definition of a loner, and should not have any friends... point blank.

Congrats to the victors, should be humble in defeat (esp since you guys won 2ce before and taught them enough to kill you). that's all that should be said about it. oh and Ganzo is pretty good, I played with him before you guys played then i had to go do rl stuff... or I woulda joined and said exactly what I just said on the third match.




Edit: I think that not being humble in defeat means you really just wanted a *** stroke from winning against lowbies, but since it seemed like a kick in the balls you took it wrong way... like I said be proud you taught them how to win...
By volkom 2013-08-19 22:14:51  
Don't think I can carry that hard on TF :|
damn 4v5 games are rough xD
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By Areayea 2013-08-19 22:48:34  
volkom said: »
Don't think I can carry that hard on TF :|
damn 4v5 games are rough xD

that is a difficult notion... tf is a hard carry
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-08-19 23:17:06  
ugh, wut?
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 Ragnarok.Hevans
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-08-20 12:49:09  
dunno which champ to buy next ._.
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