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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-07-02 15:50:34  
Don't forget his late game revolves around your adc being relevant and nothing to do with him really.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-02 17:48:57  
I really can't wait to be 30 on my smurf and hit ranked with Monkey King.

M-maybe I'll reach S-silver this w-way...
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-07-02 18:07:56  
84 Ping on Oceania server :D
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-07-02 18:35:33  
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Don't forget his late game revolves around your adc being relevant and nothing to do with him really.

His late game consists of his ult for the most part yeah

he can't even chase down an enemy carry like other top laners can and what not

he's basically mostly a support role late game
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-07-02 18:35:51  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
I really can't wait to be 30 on my smurf and hit ranked with Monkey King.

M-maybe I'll reach S-silver this w-way...

you should be able to reach silver on your main tbh
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-03 00:06:16  
Slowly yes, it would just take a long time due to the number of game I can squeeze in a day.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-07-03 00:08:13  
Olaf getting buffs/changes. SmashGizmo won't say what yet though :(

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=39373852#post39373852
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-03 08:41:18  
Talking about "changes", I wonder if the 2v1 meta will ever settle in the lower levels or if they'll kill it before it does.
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-07-03 08:47:52  
Man, they need to fix Udyr since they're bringing out an ultimate skin
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-07-03 12:30:46  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Talking about "changes", I wonder if the 2v1 meta will ever settle in the lower levels or if they'll kill it before it does.

the "2v1 meta" doesn't seem to happen much outside of like LCS play and Ranked teams

Not many people know how to 2v1 in soloqueue(as the 2 or the 1) so it sort of makes it not a great thing to do

And most people don't even know the different reasons to 2v1 now that doubles are gone(this was a pretty big reason before)
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By Kikorimo 2013-07-03 13:08:44  
something I kind of want to do is get in some custom games with some of you more experienced players, and see what I can learn from you guys so I'm not so mediocre... Lately I've been playing lots of ARAM because it forces me to learn more champs and helps me figure out how some champs perform in team fights, but I really need to improve my play overall. I think my 2 weakest lanes are top and jungle (if you call jungle a lane anyways...) I'm meh at ADC, I primarily play mid or support, but I want to round out my skill set so I'm not so terrible if I don't get either of them.
I'll be around today and tomorrow because I don't work, so if you folk are interested my name on League is Keykoh.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-03 13:25:22  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Talking about "changes", I wonder if the 2v1 meta will ever settle in the lower levels or if they'll kill it before it does.

the "2v1 meta" doesn't seem to happen much outside of like LCS play and Ranked teams

Not many people know how to 2v1 in soloqueue(as the 2 or the 1) so it sort of makes it not a great thing to do

And most people don't even know the different reasons to 2v1 now that doubles are gone(this was a pretty big reason before)
Well ya, the reasons I think require a certain understanding of the game, but it can still be used in low levels if someone is adamantly certain he can hold the lane.

I mean, much like X champion is going to see an increase in play % due to pros playing them, I would have imagined that people would like to copy their strats, too (they copy SivHD after all, can't do worse).

Kikorimo said: »
something I kind of want to do is get in some custom games with some of you more experienced players, and see what I can learn from you guys so I'm not so mediocre... Lately I've been playing lots of ARAM because it forces me to learn more champs and helps me figure out how some champs perform in team fights, but I really need to improve my play overall. I think my 2 weakest lanes are top and jungle (if you call jungle a lane anyways...) I'm meh at ADC, I primarily play mid or support, but I want to round out my skill set so I'm not so terrible if I don't get either of them.
I'll be around today and tomorrow because I don't work, so if you folk are interested my name on League is Keykoh.
Regarding jungle, you can pick a "baby jungle" champion to start learning and just go in bot games for a start.

Warwick, Fiddlesticks and a few others are very easy to clear the jungle with, so you can learn the different paths and ways to clear camps without too much issues.
The easiest Jungle path would probably be: Blue buff > wolves > wraiths > red buff > golems > wraiths > wolves.

There are better paths, but this one is probably the "baby path". It's easy to clear, will net you just enough money for either madred's or spirit stone and boots (and a potion if you have been a bit slow in clearing due to general gold).

Top is much tougher in a way, because you have to learn all the matchups and unfortunately, while there are theories and other advices, it's mainly practice.

Take advantage of the weekly rota to learn them all.

If you want to practice duels or see jungle's paths, we can do that too.
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By Fenrir.Tsuji 2013-07-03 13:26:40  
New teaser for the upcoming champ, Lucian the Purifier:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/07/champion-teaser-shadows-and-reflections.html


Obviously, it's this guy:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/05/leak-potential-upcoming-champion-gun.html
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-03 13:27:35  
Haha! I hoped that it wasn't a fake leak or that it wouldn't get canceled as he was.

I really hope it comes out the same way as he's on the leak, he's badass as ***.
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By Kikorimo 2013-07-03 13:29:45  
jungle clearing i can do, the problem is the ganking, it seems I normally can't get any... been practicing beginner bots with Volibear though and i seem to have better luck with him, the last one I played I managed 14/1/8 or something. I have multiple champs that can jungle, I'm just not that great at knowing when/how to successfully gank for the most part. Volibear Q makes ganking a lot easier though for me, at least in bot games. He's one I may consider actually trying to get good at jungle with, even though I almost never play mele champs cus I'm pretty bad with most of them.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-07-03 13:49:53  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Kikorimo said: »
something I kind of want to do is get in some custom games with some of you more experienced players, and see what I can learn from you guys so I'm not so mediocre... Lately I've been playing lots of ARAM because it forces me to learn more champs and helps me figure out how some champs perform in team fights, but I really need to improve my play overall. I think my 2 weakest lanes are top and jungle (if you call jungle a lane anyways...) I'm meh at ADC, I primarily play mid or support, but I want to round out my skill set so I'm not so terrible if I don't get either of them.
I'll be around today and tomorrow because I don't work, so if you folk are interested my name on League is Keykoh.
Regarding jungle, you can pick a "baby jungle" champion to start learning and just go in bot games for a start.

Warwick, Fiddlesticks and a few others are very easy to clear the jungle with, so you can learn the different paths and ways to clear camps without too much issues.
The easiest Jungle path would probably be: Blue buff > wolves > wraiths > red buff > golems > wraiths > wolves.

There are better paths, but this one is probably the "baby path". It's easy to clear, will net you just enough money for either madred's or spirit stone and boots (and a potion if you have been a bit slow in clearing due to general gold).

Top is much tougher in a way, because you have to learn all the matchups and unfortunately, while there are theories and other advices, it's mainly practice.

Take advantage of the weekly rota to learn them all.

If you want to practice duels or see jungle's paths, we can do that too.

to be honest having to pick a "baby champion" like ww or fiddle to learn the jungle isn't good, if you're dying in the jungle to camps and need the sustain to clear then you're doing something wrong

very, very wrong

learning jungle is about knowing about lane pressure, knowing jungle match ups, know what you're supposed to be doing on certain junglers, and remember your income isn't great in the jungle so don't do something stupid like Kha'zix or zed jungle

if you want some good junglers for each sort of "role" some "easier"(i say this because their general mechanics are a tad easy, but their advanced mechanics are generally just things you pick up over time)

Lane Pressure:Maokai. Maokai puts a huge amount of pressure on the lanes, he doesn't have many skill-shots, and his strength in ganks isn't a skill shot and has CC. He shits on lanes early on and brings support to the team late game, as well as being somewhat hard to kill later on
Jarvan also does something like this, he can pretty much burn a flash if you gank correctly, but it can be a little trickier and bad ults can ruin fights

Just remember not to dive too hard or go to ham on those guys

Team Fight Jungler:Amumu, he's still okay his ultimate is still very good. normally consists of farming until 6 then ganking bot by spam ganking. You can gank earlier but that takes practice. He has an easy clear and camps don't really damage him

Carry Jungler:Hecarim, he is an annoying decent damage pony ***. Still does well after his ult nerf, but obviously isn't as good as he was

Nunu:*** this guy, you can pretty much control the other jungler until he shoots himself by outdamaging his smite from level one
Nunu's ganks are still somewhat scary because you can eat a golem and look intimidating
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-07-03 13:50:58  
Sustain junglers are a thing of the past

Don't worry about learning them (i mean picking a jungle for the sustain, it isn't necessary and usually there are better picks in any situation)
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By Kikorimo 2013-07-03 14:24:49  
clearing jungle camps I can do, it's the ganking I primarily need help with, currently getting some pointers from WujuTsu (and they are greatly appreciated.) Working on getting better with Volibear jungle.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-03 14:31:00  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Kikorimo said: »
something I kind of want to do is get in some custom games with some of you more experienced players, and see what I can learn from you guys so I'm not so mediocre... Lately I've been playing lots of ARAM because it forces me to learn more champs and helps me figure out how some champs perform in team fights, but I really need to improve my play overall. I think my 2 weakest lanes are top and jungle (if you call jungle a lane anyways...) I'm meh at ADC, I primarily play mid or support, but I want to round out my skill set so I'm not so terrible if I don't get either of them.
I'll be around today and tomorrow because I don't work, so if you folk are interested my name on League is Keykoh.
Regarding jungle, you can pick a "baby jungle" champion to start learning and just go in bot games for a start.

Warwick, Fiddlesticks and a few others are very easy to clear the jungle with, so you can learn the different paths and ways to clear camps without too much issues.
The easiest Jungle path would probably be: Blue buff > wolves > wraiths > red buff > golems > wraiths > wolves.

There are better paths, but this one is probably the "baby path". It's easy to clear, will net you just enough money for either madred's or spirit stone and boots (and a potion if you have been a bit slow in clearing due to general gold).

Top is much tougher in a way, because you have to learn all the matchups and unfortunately, while there are theories and other advices, it's mainly practice.

Take advantage of the weekly rota to learn them all.

If you want to practice duels or see jungle's paths, we can do that too.

to be honest having to pick a "baby champion" like ww or fiddle to learn the jungle isn't good, if you're dying in the jungle to camps and need the sustain to clear then you're doing something wrong

very, very wrong

learning jungle is about knowing about lane pressure, knowing jungle match ups, know what you're supposed to be doing on certain junglers, and remember your income isn't great in the jungle so don't do something stupid like Kha'zix or zed jungle

if you want some good junglers for each sort of "role" some "easier"(i say this because their general mechanics are a tad easy, but their advanced mechanics are generally just things you pick up over time)

Lane Pressure:Maokai. Maokai puts a huge amount of pressure on the lanes, he doesn't have many skill-shots, and his strength in ganks isn't a skill shot and has CC. He shits on lanes early on and brings support to the team late game, as well as being somewhat hard to kill later on
Jarvan also does something like this, he can pretty much burn a flash if you gank correctly, but it can be a little trickier and bad ults can ruin fights

Just remember not to dive too hard or go to ham on those guys

Team Fight Jungler:Amumu, he's still okay his ultimate is still very good. normally consists of farming until 6 then ganking bot by spam ganking. You can gank earlier but that takes practice. He has an easy clear and camps don't really damage him

Carry Jungler:Hecarim, he is an annoying decent damage pony ***. Still does well after his ult nerf, but obviously isn't as good as he was

Nunu:*** this guy, you can pretty much control the other jungler until he shoots himself by outdamaging his smite from level one
Nunu's ganks are still somewhat scary because you can eat a golem and look intimidating
You're right, but the point isn't to learn those champions, but the jungle in itself.

You're burning way too many steps by going straight for the "appropriate" explanation including Maokai and other viable junglers.

Nunu is the best example though, especially in solo queue. I forgot that he was the easiest of all and actually a very good one.
By volkom 2013-07-03 15:32:25  
awesome korean video

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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-07-03 16:12:25  
volkom said: »
awesome korean video

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*edit* now i'm totally going to play fiddlesticks.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-07-03 17:12:32  
new fiddletar. thanks bob.
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By volkom 2013-07-03 17:12:59  
:P
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-07-03 23:46:29  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Kikorimo said: »
something I kind of want to do is get in some custom games with some of you more experienced players, and see what I can learn from you guys so I'm not so mediocre... Lately I've been playing lots of ARAM because it forces me to learn more champs and helps me figure out how some champs perform in team fights, but I really need to improve my play overall. I think my 2 weakest lanes are top and jungle (if you call jungle a lane anyways...) I'm meh at ADC, I primarily play mid or support, but I want to round out my skill set so I'm not so terrible if I don't get either of them.
I'll be around today and tomorrow because I don't work, so if you folk are interested my name on League is Keykoh.
Regarding jungle, you can pick a "baby jungle" champion to start learning and just go in bot games for a start.

Warwick, Fiddlesticks and a few others are very easy to clear the jungle with, so you can learn the different paths and ways to clear camps without too much issues.
The easiest Jungle path would probably be: Blue buff > wolves > wraiths > red buff > golems > wraiths > wolves.

There are better paths, but this one is probably the "baby path". It's easy to clear, will net you just enough money for either madred's or spirit stone and boots (and a potion if you have been a bit slow in clearing due to general gold).

Top is much tougher in a way, because you have to learn all the matchups and unfortunately, while there are theories and other advices, it's mainly practice.

Take advantage of the weekly rota to learn them all.

If you want to practice duels or see jungle's paths, we can do that too.

to be honest having to pick a "baby champion" like ww or fiddle to learn the jungle isn't good, if you're dying in the jungle to camps and need the sustain to clear then you're doing something wrong

very, very wrong

learning jungle is about knowing about lane pressure, knowing jungle match ups, know what you're supposed to be doing on certain junglers, and remember your income isn't great in the jungle so don't do something stupid like Kha'zix or zed jungle

if you want some good junglers for each sort of "role" some "easier"(i say this because their general mechanics are a tad easy, but their advanced mechanics are generally just things you pick up over time)

Lane Pressure:Maokai. Maokai puts a huge amount of pressure on the lanes, he doesn't have many skill-shots, and his strength in ganks isn't a skill shot and has CC. He shits on lanes early on and brings support to the team late game, as well as being somewhat hard to kill later on
Jarvan also does something like this, he can pretty much burn a flash if you gank correctly, but it can be a little trickier and bad ults can ruin fights

Just remember not to dive too hard or go to ham on those guys

Team Fight Jungler:Amumu, he's still okay his ultimate is still very good. normally consists of farming until 6 then ganking bot by spam ganking. You can gank earlier but that takes practice. He has an easy clear and camps don't really damage him

Carry Jungler:Hecarim, he is an annoying decent damage pony ***. Still does well after his ult nerf, but obviously isn't as good as he was

Nunu:*** this guy, you can pretty much control the other jungler until he shoots himself by outdamaging his smite from level one
Nunu's ganks are still somewhat scary because you can eat a golem and look intimidating
You're right, but the point isn't to learn those champions, but the jungle in itself.

You're burning way too many steps by going straight for the "appropriate" explanation including Maokai and other viable junglers.

Nunu is the best example though, especially in solo queue. I forgot that he was the easiest of all and actually a very good one.

Why learn something the wrong way? you don't need to learn how to clear camps, just the mechanics of the jungle in general

and you do that by learning the right champions
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-07-03 23:48:25  
volkom said: »
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-07-04 00:24:11  
Playing on my OC account. Queues so long :<

The only game option right now is SR blind pick

Edit - 55 ping though!

/chubby
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-04 11:04:55  


Oh boy, you'll hear me yelling bingo in no time.
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-07-04 20:46:47  
Need someone who's not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to play with me on OC server to get to 30 quickly
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By Areayea 2013-07-05 04:29:58  
sorry spense I on NA servers X.X, or I'd do it :P
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